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Nivea Roll on Anti-Perspirant Deodorant $1.75 ($1.58 Sub & Save) Min Qty 2 + Delivery ($0 with Prime / $39 Spend) @ Amazon AU

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  • +10

    I've bought a fair few of these in recent deals, but seeing all those really heavy and more importantly, un-recycleable, bottles has got me looking at alternatives. In case anyone is wondering why they can't be recycled there are a couple of problems. It's a mix of plastic and glass so it can't be stuck in recycling as is. You could probably separate the two materials with a fair bit of effort, but it would decrease the likelihood of anyone recycling it (it's hard enough to get people to recycle stuff as it is). It's also too small for most recycling lines - it falls between the gaps in the line and tends to get swept into general landfill (at least in WA).

    • +1

      agree, I've also noticed this - I wonder why you were initially down voted??

      • +2

        No idea, perhaps people think I'm wrong (though what I wrote is accurate) or don't care/don't like being reminded about recycling. Either way, I'm not particularly bothered.

    • Interesting… I always figured one of the initial steps in the recycling process would be smashing everything up and then somehow separating the components? does this mean say, normal aluminium deodorant cans with plastic nozzles/discharge mechanism can't be recycled either? or are you saying the main problem is they are too small?

      Just seems like a poor system if this is correct.

      • +2

        There are quite a few different recycling and sorting mechanisms and I'm not familiar with them all so there may be some that do crush then separate but to guarantee full separation would be very difficult.

        This video shows the recycling facility that my council uses. It's a very impressive set up but the video puts a fair bit of marketing spin on things. They run school trips there and they see and are told a bit more about the reality of recycling. My kids have all come back reminding us that we shouldn't put anything smaller than an average sized fist in recycling (so that'd include these deodorants). The glass breaking process happens after the bit where small items tend to get lost/sent to landfill. Note how they talk about it being used for road base - it's too contaminated to recycle as bottle glass.

        That facility is one of the better ones for automation but even then it's still quite a manually intensive process. There's only so much that the guys doing the initial sorting can catch and they don't have the luxury of time - there's too much going through to be thorough.

        Recycling is a fantastic idea, but the reality is a lot more dirty and inefficient than many realise. The "reduce" part of "reduce, reuse, recycle" can have far better results and that's what I'm trying to achieve these days, though that's pretty hard too.

    • While I do understand that you think that you're making a difference and it makes you feel better but ALL your recycling is going to landfill since China stopped buying it some time ago.

      And before someone says it's bad, there's more aluminium content in landfill than in soil in bauxite mines, the only problem is that it's economically not viable to establish mining for aluminium from landfills because you'll ran out of "landfil ore" in a matter of months if not weeks.

      • +1

        While I do understand that you think that you're making a difference and it makes you feel better

        It doesn't. I'm well aware that recycling has next to no effect on resource usage, but that wasn't my point. The point is reducing resource usage up front. These things use a lot of glass for something so small and that glass is not going to be recycled for the reasons given above.

        ALL your recycling is going to landfill since China stopped buying it some time ago

        It may be for most councils, but the glass and metals from our local recycling place is used. The paper and cardboard suffers the same fate as that from other places though.

        • glass literally breaks down into sand (quartz) and poses no threat to the natural world really. i think it should be the least of your worries. you can literally throw your beer bottle out the window and have it shatter and it wont matter if humans were to go extinct. plastic however..

          i do understand your sentiment and i am also against pointless consumption of materials, glass i usually let slide though

        • My point was a little bit different, sorry for not delivering it first time.

          Mixed landfill can be treated like a mine after it's closure with metals and other stuff extracted when it becomes economically viable to do so. Pure organic matter landfills do not have anything in them that could be viable to extract. Yes, it goes against everything you were told since you were a child but that's a reality, it's better for environment to not recycle at the point of consumption and leave it to be recycled later.

          And speaking of glass in particular, it takes more energy to make bottles from recycled glass than to produce brand new, so again, you're actually causing more damage to environment by recycling glass.

  • +2

    Just be aware that last time I ordered 6 of these from amazon they arrived loose inside of a A4 envelope with light bubble wrap lining inside.
    3 of the 6 were completely smashed. The remaining 3 were covered in antiperspirant and shards of glass. I had to throw out all 6. They wanted me to take them back to the post office to return. I didn't bother…

    • +1

      That's not uncommon. Same happened to me. Except I complained and got a refund…then a month later got recharged for them, because apparently I didn't send them back to Amazon.
      Eventually I got them refunded, but still took some time

    • +2

      Saved you recycling them then.

  • +3
    • +1

      Thanks! We need some more and i'd much rather get them from CW!

  • Bought some, cheers.

  • Still working through the free Westfield roll ons - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/143277

  • +1

    anyone have a no or minimal waste alternative. these things seem like a hard market to crack for no waste people

    • You'll really struggle to find a no waste alternative, but for low waste you can't beat the solid crystal deodorant sticks. They're not antiperspirant but they really work well for odour. I only started using the anti-perspirant in again in the last couple of years as my son kept dropping the crystal deodorants and smashing them. If you can avoid dropping them on a hard floor then they will last several years easily. My son is now older and more coordinated these days so I'm going back to the crystal sticks for most days.

  • Some of these are now $1.75 ($1.58 with S&S) as they're matching Woolies.

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