[SSD] Install Finished - First Timer Need Some opinion from Experts. Thanks.

I posted awhile ago and finally got an SSD.

I opened the PC up, there were only plugs for 1 storage drive, I have everything already backed up so I just put the SSD in and took the HDD out that is fine.
Booted from USB and installed W10 Home.
Installed all Windows updates and it is working fine.

Then remembered about “over provisioning” that comments from another Ozbargain post told me. Whoops.
So I quickly read online, and used Windows “Disk management” to shrink C drive by 10%.
So I have 10% un-allocated space, this is the same as over provisioning I read (SSD firmware should auto recognise this un-allocated space).

Then I remembered the “trim” feature. I opened Windows “defragment / optimize drives” and clicked optimize, but it still shows as “never” run. I did it again, still shows as “never”.
Kind of worried but ok, just turned computer off I have had enough for today.

If experts could please comment that would be appreciated, if this is all fine / job well done. Thank you.

Comments

  • Unless you intend on encrypting your SSD, leaving 10% unallocated space really isn't necessary because of TRIM. Of course everyone has a different opinion on the matter.

    As for the issue with the disk showing as never optimised, that's a bug in Windows 10 that popped up around August this year and the disk has infact been trimmed. I'm on the latest build of Windows 10 and I don't have that issue.

    • Unless you intend on encrypting your SSD, leaving 10% unallocated space really isn't necessary because of TRIM. Of course everyone has a different opinion on the matter.

      Ok maybe I just do both to be extra safe. (I need it to work for as long as possible)

      disk showing as never optimised, that's a bug in Windows 10 that popped up around August

      I'm on the latest build of Windows 10

      I also clicked “check for updates” on windows until they were all installed.
      I remember one was the 10/2020 (October) update. So I think I am up-to-date same as you.

      Thanks for your comment.

      • Better to be safe than sorry!

        It was fixed in the September release and this optional update fixes it too. It seems to come and go every few builds so maybe it's back again.

        • Ok thank you.
          Just a bug.
          I worried I made a mistake by running “trim” right after shrinking C drive, and somehow messed up.

          I am a very basic computer user (first time opening a PC) so just needed some confirmation it went well.

          When securing the SSD inside I did it with just 1 screw, the holes were in different places compared to the HDD, but the screw went in well so I just tightened it and it is very secure.

  • What brand and drive is it? Some have special features enabled or monitored by their own company's software. I would also check your Win 10 version in settings to confirm you have the latest version. I would then also get the latest chipset drivers if applicable (these are for your cpu and motherboard). Then install the ssd company's software. Trim is a CMD command, so you can use that as administrator to enable or check. Don't know too much about over provisioning other than the ssd already has some space taken out. So Trim is the only thing most people should use.

    • What brand and drive is it?

      Crucial MX500. I installed software just to make sure the firmware is up-to-date.
      Then uninstalled, since most of it was just “info” like memory / temperature.
      I also read online that Windows 10 (at least recent versions) have most of the features built-in to maintain SSD’s.

      I would also check your Win 10 version in settings to confirm you have the latest version.

      Yes I clicked “check for updates” until they were all complete. I will check again tomorrow.

      I would then also get the latest chipset drivers if applicable (these are for your cpu and motherboard).

      Yes these were updating automatically once I connected to the internet.

      Don't know too much about over provisioning other than the ssd already has some space taken out.

      Yes I noticed that, it is 500GB model but at the beginning of Windows 10 setup it said around ~465 GB.
      Maybe it is over provisioned from the factory.

      • yep, so I am guessing undo the over provisioning to get some space back and check that trim is applied w/ CMD. If you want to check your drivers, you can use this: Snappy Driver Installer Click on SDI Lite, then go into downloads then indexes only. Check that it doesn't do any big downloads as it meant to be a backup for all drivers… Might find things that haven't been updated for a while.

  • Installed all Windows updates and it is working fine.

    This is it. Great work. As long as your SSD can boot your Windows, absolutely nothing to worry about.

    You don't need to fiddle about TRIM stuff. Recent and latest W10 versions should take care of TRIM automatically for you.
    Defragging SSD will shorten its life. It's disabled for SSD by default.

    Just remember, within the next 5 years if you happen upon a noticeable performance drop in simple Windows Explorer actions such as extremely slow copying and deleting files, your SSD is dying. Swap it fast before it's unrecoverable unless you have backups.

    • Defragging SSD will shorten its life. It's disabled for SSD by default.

      Yes I noticed this, the “defrag” option is replaced by “optimize” (trim). Default is set to optimize automatically (once a month I think).

      if you happen upon a noticeable performance drop in simple Windows Explorer actions
      …your SSD is dying. Swap it fast

      Yes thanks for this.
      Warranty on MX500 is 5 years / 180TBW (whichever comes first I think).
      Apparently you need to write more than 90GBW per day to reach 180TBW before 5 years. Hopefully it lasts 10+ years since I think it will be writing much much less than that per day.

  • I've never heard of this 10% unallocated space idea. Surely if it's unallocated then it will stay that way and you've lost 10% for nothing.
    You definitely don't want to have it defragging. Defragging is moving files around, grouping them for easier and faster access. It's for hard drives where speed optimisation is beneficial. An SSD doesn't need that and more importantly SSDs wear out after a certain number of reads and writes.

    • The idea came about years ago when SSDs were expensive and didn't have TRIM support. It's just one of those recommendations that has stuck. Just like how people still like to say you should drain your laptop batteries complete due to the memory effect when that affects NiCad batteries and not the lithium-ion batteries in use today.