Broil King KEG 5000 Bundle Kamado $999 (Save $1325) @ Outdoors Domain [Melb, Syd, Bris]

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  The Hobo on 08/12/2020 - 22:46

  +3

  Get the Kamado Akorn - cheaper and still a brilliant product

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    jetfar on 08/12/2020 - 22:52

    +1

    +1 for the Char-griller Akorn.

    $550 from Bunnings includes a smoker stone and weather cover.

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    Born sleepy on 08/12/2020 - 23:31

    +1

    Yep, I've had the chargriller Akorn for 2 years. I use it all the time from slow cooks to BBQs to pizzas. Highly recommend if anyone is thinking of getting one.

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    Pobman on 08/12/2020 - 23:35

    Had one of those for 4 or 5 years now, might be longer even, good for the price. The bit that holds the bottom in place when its not latched did rust out, but it can still be used fine just take more care emptying it. Living next to the sea probably didn't help, but its the only part that rusted out.

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  steve84 on 08/12/2020 - 22:55

  Wow inflated RRP for sure. Barbecues Galore was selling ceramic Pro Smoke Kamado for $596 in the Black Friday sales. Would much prefer that over a steel model

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    bashar20 on 08/12/2020 - 23:22

    +2

    Probelm with ceramic ones is that they do crack.

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    TEER3X on 09/12/2020 - 06:20

    There's no real world difference steel vs ceramic, both have some minor pros and cons.

    The one posted here is a double walled steel one, I'd prefer that over ceramic.

    Just like the poster prior said, ceramic does crack. I've owned a ceramic (vision grills) did crack on the outside, but didn't affect its performance.

    As for akorn, they're actually decent, but I've seen them in the US on clearance for $100 or less

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      steve84 on 09/12/2020 - 06:52

      When you say cracking on the outside - are you talking about spider web cracks in the glaze? This is normal

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        TEER3X on 09/12/2020 - 07:47

        Yeah, pretty much, but the inner bowl also cracked pretty easily too from mishandling.

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      naira on 09/12/2020 - 08:18

      Are you also saying Kamado Joe will crack? I thought they are made differently hence the limited lifetime warranty.

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        crf529 on 09/12/2020 - 21:16

        They have a multi piece construction for the fire box, which is supposed to provide room for expansion and contraction. However it’s still ceramic and the rest remains single pieces, so cracking is always a possibility.

        You pay big bucks so you get the lifetime warranty, though.

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      choumada on 09/12/2020 - 10:50

      +2

      I disagree with this, there can be a huge difference between steel vs ceramic depending on your usage and scenario.

      1) Steel kamado style bbq's dont handle temperatures well over 400 celcius whereas a ceramic kamado joe for example can handle this very easily.
      2) A good ceramic kamado is covered for 25 years(kamado joe) vs 1 year guarantee for example with a cheap steel pro smoke dragon kamado for example
      3) Ceramic can't rust like enameled steel can, most australians live within 25kms of the beach
      4) Efficiency, ceramic holds the heat in more effectively than the double walled steel fireboxes, saves you money in the long run on charcoal with low n slow cooking for extended cooks

      My 2 cents, wait for a Kamado Joe classic to go on sale at BBQ's galore for 20% off sales which they frequently do and then stack the sale price with 5-7% off giftcards. (Stocks basically nonexistent at the moment so expect a wait). I also work at BBQS galore and the broil kings we sell (Gas models) are overpriced for what they are really due to US manufacturing.

      Other options include the pit boss black charcoal grill from bunnings for $949, less warranty and annoying ash tray but build quality looks good:

      https://www.bunnings.com.au/pit-boss-black-ceramic-kamado-ch…

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        GRP on 09/12/2020 - 11:14

        With 20% off a Kamado Joe is still $1.8K plus and you have to wait for the sale to come around and bad luck if you miss it. Appreciate the are top quality but a big ask.

        Still pondering this deal.

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        TEER3X on 09/12/2020 - 11:59

        Steel vs ceramic real world difference is 16 hours vs 18 hours cook time, so yeah it will save you money long term, but just depends on how much you use it and how much extra you have to pay for ceramic.

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          GRP on 09/12/2020 - 12:50

          @TEER3X: Thanks.

          On your numbers about 15% longer for a long slow cook.

          Is that steel double wall insulated v ceramic or steel v ceramic?

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            TEER3X on 11/12/2020 - 12:13

            @GRP: it's akorn (double walled) vs ceramic (better). I haven't seen an akorn for many years (in the usa), but iirc the steel is a little thin, not like the quality and super heavy offset smokers (different product obv).

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        The Hobo on 09/12/2020 - 14:05

        +2

        You make some good points, but there are positives to the steel Kamado too.

        1) Cheaper - this allows a much easier entry point for your occasional bbqer and allows people who are just beginning to get into charcoal bbq to get involved
        2) Sturdier - I'm on many Kamado facebook groups, and there are hundreds of people with cracked ceramic kamado's - some due to accidental bumps, drops etc. but many that claim to be random. Warranty helps, but not all have 25 years, and they're not all as good at simply sending through a replacement when a part breaks. More importantly, lead times for replacement parts have been known to be significant, and there have been many cases of the replacement part arriving broken as well. Nobody wants to be without their kamado for 3 months waiting on a part.
        3) Lighter - moving a ceramic kamado is nowhere near as simple as a steel one. yes, they often have wheels etc, but if you move house, move into a different area of your house etc, it is at a much higher risk of breaking. You certainly don't want to be moving your ceramic kamado around every time you cook. I like moving my Akorn onto the deck when I use it, and then store it under cover once i'm done. There is a small step to get onto the decking. No issues with a steel Akorn.

        Having cooked a lot with both, the ceramic certainly holds heat a bit better, and feels much better quality, but the Akorn does a good job too. The peace of mind of not having to worry about it cracking, not having to be gentle with it etc. makes it an easy choice for me. The biggest issue in the Akorn is the threads of the hinge for the lid failing. There is a ghetto solution of putting in new nuts and bolts which resolves the issue completely once it fails. I've not had this issue, but because I've known it to be a weak point (plenty of people on facebook have had the issue), i've been quite careful with putting too much pressure on the hinge when opening/closing the lid.

        Most steel Kamado's that rust out are due to being left out in the elements, or ashbox not cleared out after a cook and left for long periods of time. The ashbox is the most commonly rusted out part, which is readily available as a replacement part too.

        I've had my Akorn for 4 years now, no sign of rust or any issues at all. Always covered when not in use and ash tray emptied when not planning on cooking for any reasonable period of time (which isn't all that often!)

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          choumada on 09/12/2020 - 15:54

          +1

          @The Hobo: Well said they do weight a ton haha definitely pro/cons to each and depends on individual needs i guess

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  Dex38313 on 08/12/2020 - 23:25

  I have a 24” Louisiana grills from Costco ceramic it’s huge
  But this looks good for the price

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    TEER3X on 09/12/2020 - 06:21

    The weight would make that impossibly difficult to move

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      Dex38313 on 09/12/2020 - 09:50

      Yes it’s 130kg lucky it’s on wheels

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        TEER3X on 11/12/2020 - 12:14

        i had to move one from a balcony, down some stairs and out on to the street when i sold mine. it was a 22" kamado, pain in the butt to move.

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  GRP on 09/12/2020 - 10:41

  I actually went to purchase the BBQs Galore pro smoke the other week on the last day of the special. Online purchase came up with contact your local store by phone to purchase - not easy at 6.00 pm mid week. In hindsight no regrets but what a useless purchase system.

  I had previously been tempted by the Louisanna Grill at Costco but they go in and out of stock and have been out for some months now.

  Looking for reviews on the Broil King came up with positives:
  https://amazingribs.com/grill-smoker-egg-or-kamado-style-com…

  Came across a negative review re air leaks around the ash tray but a simple tape fix.

  Sells for US$1K and most AU stores have it around A$2K.

  Bizarrely shipping was either free or $50 kerbside pickup metro Melb. Why would you pay?

  Think I will give it a go.