Looking to Buy a Second Hand 7 Seat Car

Sutra on 23/12/2020 - 18:04

Hi guys
I am looking for a 7 seater and would like of know the opinion of my fellow ozbargainers.
I have narrowed it to these 2 cars

2011 Nissan Dualis +2 ST J10 Series II Auto MY10 124,677 km
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2011-nissan-dualis-…
$13888

2010 Ford Territory TS SY MKII Auto RWD 139,165 km
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2010-ford-territory…
$12000

I am open to more options (Live in Adelaide CBD)
I do not know much about cars, would like to know what you guys look for when buying a second hand car

How many kms is ok?
100k - 150k
150k - 200K
less than 100k?

What about how old?
5 years?
10 years?

Thanks to all in advance

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    2010 Ford Territory $12000
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    2011 Nissan Dualis $13888
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Comments

  • spackbace on 23/12/2020 - 18:06
    +5

    Oof, 2 different size vehicles. Have you actually sized these vehicles up yourself?

    Who do you plan on seating in them, and for how long?

    • brendanm on 23/12/2020 - 18:08
      +2

      This, they are completely different cars.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:42

      Thanks spackbace, for point it out.
      Would need to go back to the drawing board

  • shafaet on 23/12/2020 - 18:07
    +3

    Go for Toyota Kluger..

    • ausdday on 23/12/2020 - 18:36
      +2

      and get some Motion Sickness pills on your way home.

      The back row is right on the wheels and bumpy as hell.

      • shafaet on 23/12/2020 - 20:49
        +1

        but better than Dualis.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:42

      I have not consider it; I would check if there is a second hand one with a reasonable price.
      Thanks

  • CheapandUsed on 23/12/2020 - 18:20
    +5

    I think the 3rd row of the Dualis was the result of a sarcastic engineer or a gullible manager.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:44

      Interesting, I am going to inspect it next week, third row would be for a 1.60 metres adult, once a week.
      but need space for a pram as well

  • Bargain80 on 23/12/2020 - 18:26

    I had Dualis +2 for 3 years.

    But the rear seats are very tight. You can only use them for short people (cannot use for kids as no anchor point). And when you use them, you almost have no boot space at the back.
    Also be aware that the car was originally built for Europe so spare parts are a bit pricy compared to Japanese cars (Toyota, Hyundai, Kia etc).
    Apart from those, it's a good car.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:44

      Good to know about the originally built for Europe. Will keep it in mind thanks

  • onetwothreefour on 23/12/2020 - 18:46
    +3

    Tarago?

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:45

      I just read that the Tarago got discontinued, would that affect the servicing price?

  • pharkurnell on 23/12/2020 - 19:04

    Nissan Elgrand Sports..

    but who are you sitting in it? Babies or teenagers cause I'd hate to try sitting a tall kid in a Territory or Dualis

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:46

      a 1.60 metres adult; I would check the Elgrand. Thanks

  • suchis on 23/12/2020 - 19:07
    +1

    We have 7 seater petrol Prado… 15+ litres per 100km
    As a second hand car we took a gamble on a 7 seater 308 diesel Peugeot and less than 7 litres/100
    The Peugeot can have all rear seats out, so it can be a three seater, 4/5/6/7
    It’s been three months and happy so far.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:47

      I have a Peugeot 308 and It has made me hate European cars.
      I guess I was just naive when i bought it second hand for a cheap price

      • Zoop on 01/01/2021 - 20:03
        +1

        Can you elaborate?
        Mechanical issues, electrical, electronics?
        Or a nightmarish combination of all 3?

  • bobkin on 23/12/2020 - 19:48

    If you do go for a territory, try to get an sz series rather than sy. They are supposed to have long lasting engines so I wouldn’t be as concerned about km as year/model, but be aware diesel models need their timing belt changed at approx 150000km. The diesel ones also do not have a diesel particle filter, which is one less thing to go wrong, but is horribly polluting (and put me off buying one). For 7 seat use, the air bags do not extend to the third row. We recently bought a petrol model. I am not thrilled with how it looks and it uses quite a lot of fuel, but it has plenty of space, drives very nicely and tows well

    • OZBargainer in SA on 24/12/2020 - 09:10

      How is the general durability? Like switchgear, seats, etc…?

      • bobkin on 24/12/2020 - 10:13

        I haven’t had it long enough to know, sorry

  • SF3 on 23/12/2020 - 21:09
    +8

    Kia Grand Carnival

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:51

      Is the Grand Carnival discontinue/replaced by the Carnival? Would that affect spare parts?.
      Ill be inspecting a 2011 Grand Carnival next week, it is $11000 but with 186000 kms, Would that be too many?

  • hentabara on 23/12/2020 - 21:35
    +2

    Honda odyssey or kia carnival

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:59

      Ill be inspecting a 2011 Grand Carnival next week, it is $11000 but with 186000 kms, Would that be too many?

      Not many second hand Odyssey where I live, cheapest t is a 2017 for $27,995

  • payless69 on 23/12/2020 - 22:31

    Kia diesel would be my choice, if you do not need the extra space a Sorrento or a SantaFe (Hyundai) could be checked out too. Good on fuel, a pre- DPF model is fine on short runs.
    Dualis are gutless, 6cyl like Kluger are nice but expensive to run.
    14k should give you something with under 120kk and if never misfueled should last 300kk.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:04

      Have not considered the Santa Fe.
      Would you consider a 2010 Santa Fe with 237,200 km for $10999?

      • pharkurnell on 24/12/2020 - 11:37

        no

        • payless69 on 24/12/2020 - 12:13

          cars are good but some dealerships have service issues, but can apply to all cars.

  • Euphemistic on 23/12/2020 - 22:49
    +2

    As pretty much everyone else has said: how often do you plan to use the seven seats, who for and how much luggage space do you want with passenger in the third row?

    You’ll never fit a stroller in a lot of 7 seaters with seven people on board. A lot don’t have anchor points in the third row and with 2 kid seats fitted in the middle row it’s near impossible to climb into the third row without removing one or climbing in through the boot.

    Then there’s size, fuel economy and SUV or people mover considerations.

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:08

      Once per week, 1.60 metres adult on the third row, need space for pram. Seems like a peoples mover is more likely?

  • ippybear on 24/12/2020 - 08:04

    A Ford Territory, preferably a SZ petrol. Not a diesel as servicing costs are high, it might use less fuel but is less reliable than the petrol model.
    Territories are very spacious inside and handle well.
    The SZ petrol ( and all previous Territories ) has a great 6 cyl motor which has been also used in Falcons for years and considered very reliable.
    Depending on your usage they can be fairly economical, mine uses 10.3 L fuel per 100 KMs, with a lot of motorway driving.
    Parts ( unlike some imports ) are very available and cheap in comparison.
    There's lots of comments on import vehicles here, but the reliability and long life of engines and the easy servicing of the vehicle, which is very important, hardly get a mention.

    • [Deactivated] on 24/12/2020 - 10:23

      fairly economical, mine uses 10.3 L fuel per 100 KMs, with a lot of motorway driving.

      I'm not sure 'fairly economical' could ever mean 'double what a lot of cars achieve' but I suppose it's not toooooo awful for the size of the vehicle. How big is the fuel tank? My biggest concern when I had a 6 cylinder car was not the consumption itself, but how often I had to fill up. It felt more annoying to pay $60 more often than it would to pay $120 less often.

      • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:09

        How many litres per 100kms would be economical for a peoples mover?

        • [Deactivated] on 24/12/2020 - 11:16

          I think you'd easily find a diesel one would manage more like 7-8. 10L/100km is fair for a petrol people mover though.

          I just think you shouldn't get one unless you're using all the seats frequently, in which case you should probably get a van-type people mover rather than an SUV with a couple spare benches welded in the back.

  • Suzcee on 24/12/2020 - 10:01
    +1

    We have a Dualis +2 which we bought because of the extra boot space. We have used the rear seats only a few times and just make the shorter adults squash in there.
    Makes a funny ride coz their heads have to be together because of the shape of the roof.
    So therefore I wouldn’t buy it as a 7 seater

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:09

      Have you used with 6 people and a pram?

  • OzHunterNSW on 24/12/2020 - 10:27
    -3

    Already your selection is 10years old.
    Do you really want to place your family in jeopardy by placing them in a 10 year old vehicle that only worth 5k?

    • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:11

      To be honest, for cars I really do not know if 10 years is considered too much.
      What would be your limit? 5 years?
      What about kilometres?

    • Euphemistic on 24/12/2020 - 11:21
      +2

      A 10yo vehicle in good condition is not going to have a massive safety difference to a new one. It’s incremental. As long as there are airbags and ABS brakes and a capable and aware driver you are not placing tour ‘family in jeopardy’

  • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 10:41

    Hi guys,
    Thanks for all the replies; I made the mistake of searching for cars by price rather than what I actually need.

    A bit of background
    I currently have a MY09 Peugeot 308 (7 seater) which would be "perfect" but (as you guys can imagine) it is a nightmare with an intermittent warning light (Anti pollution warning light); so I want to get rid of it.

    My wife is pregnant (second baby) due on August next year; my in-laws are here and we go out together every week (6 people in total, 4 adults, 2 years old toddler and the new baby). My father in law would be the one on the third seat; He is 1.60 metres. So I am not sure if a SUV would be enough or a people mover is required.

    These coming weeks, I will inspect a Nissan Dualis, Elgrand; Mitsubishi Outlander, Kia Sorento/ Grand Carnival and Toyota Tarago.
    Any other car I should consider? maybe Honda Odyssey.

    I am also worried about number of kilometres and year; Is more than 150000 KM a big no no? what about older than 2010?

    • spackbace on 24/12/2020 - 10:59
      +2

      My father in law would be the one on the third seat; He is 1.60 metres. So I am not sure if a SUV would be enough or a people mover is required.

      With 2 car seats in the middle row, can he climb through the rear of the vehicle to get to his seat? I'd say it's unlikely

      Look for people movers. Rule out 7-seaters completely

      • Sutra on 24/12/2020 - 11:12

        yes, It seems for a once per week usage a people movers is a must.
        Would you consider a 10 years old car?
        What about 150000+ kms?

        • spackbace on 24/12/2020 - 11:15

          Depends on overall condition and service history. No 2 used cars are the same. Some may have been used as mum's taxi and mistreated, not cared for, others may have been well looked after

          Just make sure to do all the right checks (including a PPSR) before jumping in

  • Ramrunner on 26/12/2020 - 15:30
    +1

    We're super happy with our Honda CRV 7 seater. Depends on how big your smallest kids are though not as comfortable as say a Landcruiser.

  • godofpizza on 26/12/2020 - 16:14

    I've have owned and still driving a 2012 Dualis +2 for about 3 years.
    The row seats are pretty much a joke if your expecting any humans to fit or be able to get to without having to resort by going thru the hatch door.

    bear in mind they have CVT transmission, some Nissan joints reckon it doesn't need to be serviced. Some do.
    I recently decided to have it serviced @ $600 at a Nissan dealership.

    I think 14K is bit too much for a dualis with 124k on the odometer.

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