Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus 3 10.3" 64GB Wi-Fi (2nd Gen) $279 + Delivery / NSW Pickup @ Mwave

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Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus 3 10.3" 64GB Wi-Fi (2nd Gen) $279 + Delivery / NSW Pickup @ Mwave

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Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus 3 10.3" 64GB Wi-Fi (2nd Gen) $279 + Postage + Free C2C

SKU # AC39807 | Model # ZA5T0214AU
Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus 3 10.3" 64GB Wi-Fi (2nd Gen) - Processor: MediaTek Helio P22T (Octa-Core, 8x A53 @2.3GHz) - Graphics: IMG GE8320 GPU - Display: 10.3" TDDI 330nit, 10-point Multi-touch - Resolution: 1920x1200 (WUXGA) - Camera: 8MP Rear, 5MP Front - Memory: 4GB LPDDR4X-3200 - Storage: 64GB eMMC - Network: 11a/b/g/n/ac, 1x1, BT 5.0 - Battery Capacity: 5000mAh - I/O: MicroSD Slot, USB-C 2.0, Combo Audio Jack, 2x Pogo Pin - OS: Android 9 Pie - ZA5T0214AU - 12 Months Limited Warranty
Manufacturer Warranty: 12 Months Limited Warranty

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CyberMurning on 04/01/2021 - 16:44

-2

Storage: 64GB eMMC

stop reading after that
- tsunamisurfer on 04/01/2021 - 16:46
  
  haa haa…
  
  Can that be mitigated somewhat by an SD card?
- samelight on 04/01/2021 - 17:05
  
  got a MicroSD Slot, internal memory won't matter much.
  - grb on 04/01/2021 - 17:10
    
    +3
    
    not really true… The slow "OS" drive will impact general system response as much or more than anything else (e.g. when booting, opening apps, or when swapping).
    
    For the record I own a duet which appears to have many similar/identical specs. Noticeably slow booting and loading apps compared to systems I'm used to. Though that's to be expected at this price point, and performance is pretty decent once things are loaded. Plus I haven't found the 4GB RAM to be very limiting at all.
    - samelight on 04/01/2021 - 17:29
      
      -2
      
      dude its not a PC!
      u don't know what u talking about, this is a budget tablet !
      is the CPU and Graphics slowing u down not the internal memory.
      - grb on 04/01/2021 - 17:43
        
        +5
        
        @samelight: Wat? I just told you I own a budget tablet with likely exactly the same parts… And I've owned budget tablets, "netbooks" and old phones pushed way past their used by date for years.
        
        I was using a 2012 nexus 4 until 2019 running LineageOS and I can tell you the "drive" on these tablets is only a little better than that phone (compared to the competition).
        
        You seemed to imply the OS drive type and size doesn't matter since it has a microSD slot. You were wrong about that and I feel the need to correct you for the sake of other readers.
        
        Though as we've both stated it's a budget device so obviously expectations should be set low.
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 18:14
        
        -4
        
        @grb: Once again u have no idea what u talking about !
        the "drive" on the phone is not the same as the "drive" on a table, even they got the same name same version.
        also different size screen or evern just different screen the processing time of the graphics ar different.
        i literally have no idea what u trying to say for the first 2 paragraphs.
        
        You seemed to imply the OS drive type and size doesn't matter since it has a microSD slot.
        
        only half of that is true, this is a budget tablet ! eMMC is what u getting !
        so the OS gonna run on the same eMMC memory,
        the booting time is gonna be the same regardless what size of the eMMC internal memory am i right ?
        
        the only different is with a smaller internal memory u need to put some apps or photos on the SD card, yes that MAY slow you down a bit depends on what card u ar using, but now days some SD card ar faster then the budget eMMC u having on this tablet.
        
        so… what am i wrong about ??
        
        also,
        when u open an app, or a photo, what's happening inside ur tablet, what actually take times to "load"?
        u could google those urslef, i don't want to argue since it already off the topic.
        
        grb on 04/01/2021 - 18:21
        
        +2
        
        @samelight: For the sake of anyone who cares: The OS "drive" is almost always the bottleneck when booting up and opening apps. Specifically the random reads.
        
        This tablet uses old and slow emmc, so booting up and loading programs will also be slow. But it's cheap so no surprise.
        
        The SoC (CPU/GPU) is perfectly fine for normal activities, 4GB RAM is also enough for most tasks, and the display is fantastic.
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 19:09
        
        @grb: For the sake of anyone who cares: with a budget tablet this type of eMMC "drive" is all u can get ! i don't know wtf u on about and wtf u ar expecting !!
        
        a vert simply question, with this prices range what other drive can u get ?
        lets add another $100 to the bill, name what else can u get plz !
        u just totally ignoring this and keep telling others better "drive" is better?
        and what make u think sd card is slower then this eMMC "drive" ??
        u just keep trolling without facing the fact!
        
        the fact is, in a $100-$300 range tablet, they all using the same eMMC "drive",
        its the SoC (CPU/GPU) made the faster one faster !
        
        chihaeru on 04/01/2021 - 19:20
        
        +1
        
        @samelight: Not specifically brand new, but add $100 and you can very easily find a mint condition Samsung Galaxy Tab S4, which is better in almost every regard, and has UFS.
        
        grb isn't even saying eMMC is bad at this price range though, so I don't know why you keep carrying on.
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 19:35
        
        -3
        
        @chihaeru: oh wow, u talking about second hands huh… why u keep carrying on BS like this ?
        
        grb isn't even saying eMMC is bad at this price range though
        
        that made more sense, u ar trolling!!
        hes not talking about the eMMC then what else? 64GB space ?!?
        Storage: 64GB eMMC thats the topic and thats what im replying !!
        if hes talking about the 64GB then whats wrong which me saying "got a MicroSD Slot, internal memory won't matter much." ??
        
        chihaeru on 04/01/2021 - 19:37
        
        +1
        
        @samelight: Lol.
      - chihaeru on 04/01/2021 - 18:16
        
        +2
        
        @samelight: Maybe you don't know what you're talking about. Slow onboard flash will absolutely slow down everything, regardless of how good the onboard CPU/GPU are… doesn't matter if it's a tablet, PC, game console, GPS, literally anything.
        
        I've owned far too many devices with eMMC that's degraded very fast and left a very slow device even with good specs otherwise. If the flash storage the OS runs on can't keep up, it'll be slow regardless. Not every device using eMMC has the same flash performance either.
        
        Also, "internal memory won't matter so much because SD slot" doesn't mean anything, a lot of people use multiple apps and in case you didn't know, Android hasn't supported running apps off external storage since Android 7. The only argument for an SD slot is storing media, where faster access times are arguably less important than read/write for the actual OS and/or apps, which can't be moved to an SD card if the internal flash is slow…
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 18:45
        
        -5
        
        @chihaeru:
        
        Maybe you don't know what you're talking about. Slow onboard flash will absolutely slow down everything,
        
        omg as i said many times already with a budget tablet this shity slow eMMC onboard flash is all u can get damn it !
        learn how to read troller!
        
        i don't know why the hell u keep telling me those better flash is faster BS,
        yes better flash is faster im not saying thats not true !
        but 1 u won't get a better flash with a budget tablet.
        2 the loading speed depends on CPU/GPU much MORE then the storage ! u can google that !!
        
        and
        
        Android hasn't supported running apps off external storage since Android 7
        
        if u don't know how to enable that, then ya u know nothing and i won't waste my time on u, coz u just trolling.
        
        chihaeru on 04/01/2021 - 18:59
        
        +1
        
        @samelight: My point clearly isn't getting through, maybe I should try "Google" more because clearly you know so much about the topic.
        
        This all started because you said internal storage wouldn't matter much because of micro SD slot, then replied to someone who pointed out the importance of fast onboard storage saying "it's not a PC". Funnily enough, it is very similar to a PC… where a PC with slow internal storage slows down in the exact same manner. Funny, that.
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 19:28
        
        @chihaeru: im replying "got a MicroSD Slot, internal memory won't matter much."
        to someone said "Storage: 64GB eMMC stop reading after that"
        
        so whats ur point here ? change the eMMC to something better would make this M10 somehow also better ??
        the fact is u won't know the difference.
        
        i know this becoz i got 2 huawei p10 both eMMC and UFS version.
        with an ok CPU/GPU (short loading time) u still hardly know the difference, with a shity CPU/GPU like this M10, no! it makes no different at all, i mean can u sense the difference between it loaded for 10 sec or 11 sec?
        
        what ar u guys keep trolling about ?!?!
        
        grb on 04/01/2021 - 19:48
        
        +1
        
        @samelight: Changing the emmc to something better would 100% make this M10 better. Noticeably better. You're spreading disinformation and there are much more knowledgeable people here trying to help you learn.
        
        I know people on the internet seem to think the more they keep replying or changing goalposts mean the more they "win". But this doesn't change reality.
        
        Again, the speed of the storage has a greater effect on general system responsiveness than any big marketing point (e.g. CPU, GPU, or RAM). It's the same for phones and cameras and PCs and goes against most of what you see in the marketing materials so I can understand why you're confused. But, again, that's just reality.
        
        However the slow drive simply falls into the category of "good enough for the price" like the rest of the specs; which combined with the great screen can make a compelling offer.
        
        samelight on 04/01/2021 - 20:05
        
        -2
        
        @grb: I just told you I own 2 huawei p10 both eMMC and UFS version.
        so no, if the m10 it change emmc to something better it won't get any "better".
        but if u keep insisting on amybe 100ms better is "better", then ya im spreading disinformation and there are much more knowledgeable people here trying to help you learn.
        
        I know people on the internet seem to think the more they keep replying or changing goalposts mean the more they "win". But this doesn't change reality.
        
        ya look at urself!
        
        Again, the speed of the OS and app mostly depends on the CPU, GPU, or RAM.
        storage just a secondary condition, it would make a different, im not saying it won't, but the difference is minor.
        Budget tablets with a price range of $50-$300 they all using this eMMC storage, but their loading speed ar very different! why ?thats not marketing point, thats the REALITY !
        
        grb on 04/01/2021 - 20:21
        
        +1
        
        @samelight: Lol this is like some of the conversations I had a decade or so ago when people kept buying i7s with a spinning HDD vs an i5 with a SSD. Even a netbook level atom CPU with a SSD would make a much more responsive PC than the i7 and spinner. I'm also reminded of that saying about leading a horse to water :P
        
        Just remember the difference between slow storage and fast storage for tablets is about 10x the speed. And the storage is used at 100% speed regularly. Storage is the major bottleneck booting up and opening programs. And a small difference in the BoM can easily double or triple storage speed.
        
        The difference between a fast and slow CPU (or GPU) is much less (maybe 2x or 3x?). And the CPU and GPU are rarely used at 100% for general activities.
        
        To claim you won't notice upgrading from bottom of the barrel storage is ignorant but understandable. But to stubbornly cling to this ignorance and spread disinformation is just wrong.
        
        chihaeru on 04/01/2021 - 21:26
        
        +1
        
        @grb: It reminded me of the exact same arguments where people assumed CPU/GPU meant everything and SSDs were just "for nerds" because they didn't make a lot of difference. Fast forward to 2020/2021 and people still don't understand this. When you compare 1 minute boot times on a HDD compared to under 20 seconds and usually less on an SSD, there simply isn't any way to argue anymore that slower storage makes no difference.
        
        Can't really understand why samelight keeps thinking it somehow has no performance impact, I guess some people really are that stubborn to be correct all the time.
    - CptnObvious on 04/01/2021 - 20:30
      
      Not to derail this conversation, but is it possible to have apps read off microsd instead of internal eMMC? To that effect, are there any microsd which has higher performance than eMMC?
      - grb on 04/01/2021 - 20:34
        
        +2
        
        @CptnObvious: The eMMC will still be faster. I haven't played around with apps on a SD card for ages so I'm not sure it's still possible.
        
        Newer microSDs are rated for A1 or A2 or whatever relating to application performance but if you check out actual benchmarks the random performance is still hella slow. IIRC newer microSDs may have 2-4MB/s random reads vs about 10x that for this eMMC. And the sequential reads for a fast microSD might be rated high but I doubt the SoC will read much over 100MB/s, about the same as the eMMC.
        
        grb on 05/01/2021 - 05:13
        
        +1
        
        @grb: Sorry my above post needs correction though the point remains the same. It is the microSD random WRITES which are in the 2-4MB/s range, the random reads for the best cards could be up to 10 or 12 MB/s. This is still 2x or 3x slower than the eMMC on this tablet. And the maximum sequential reads from a microSD card are likely slower than I thought, significantly less than 100MB/s; meaning the in-built eMMC is 1.5-2x faster than the best microSD cards available.
[Deactivated] on 04/01/2021 - 17:08

Competatively spec'd local option for those on the fence about the Alldocube iPlay 30 Pro [which has 6GB/128GB]. I have the Alldocube iPlay 20 Pro and it's still excellent value at $240'ish. I'd go with the iPlay 30 Pro
RichDad PoorSon on 04/01/2021 - 17:20

is that screen = 1080p?
- Shostaholic on 04/01/2021 - 17:28
  
  +1
  
  Yes Full HD 1920 X 1200, although the device is unable to play Netflix at FHD due to encryption rights (Widevine L3). I'm not tech savvy enough to know what that fully means but it appears that you might be better off with another tablet if FHD Netflix is something you're after.
  - RichDad PoorSon on 04/01/2021 - 22:28
    
    +2
    
    thanks so much. that and ps remote play :) will have to pass on this and went back to looking at Samsung Galaxy Tab A6
crazynic on 04/01/2021 - 17:23

Price gone up to$299?
bigbaddbaz on 04/01/2021 - 17:24

+1

$229 if you can get on the lenovo educational store
Bigboomboom on 04/01/2021 - 17:27

+4

At this price you better get Samsung Tab A7, which has better SoC, screen, quad speaker, Widevine L1, bigger battery and supported longer (mine is on December 20 Security patch and it launched with Android 10).
- samelight on 04/01/2021 - 17:31
  
  Samsung Tab A7 got much better battery life !
  i think that the most important part.
- bigbaddbaz on 04/01/2021 - 17:40
  
  I was going tab a7 but this at 229 was better buy
  - samelight on 04/01/2021 - 17:44
    
    +2
    
    if u can get the a7 for lower then $300,
    the trust me a7 is the better buy.
    - bigbaddbaz on 04/01/2021 - 17:48
      
      Not when you're bargain hunting
      - samelight on 04/01/2021 - 18:21
        
        -1
        
        @bigbaddbaz: u could get a sh%ity table for under $100 if lower price is all u looking at.
        the performents of a7 is…i would say $100 better then this M10,
        so the "bargain hunting" would be finding a a7 with less then $100 price difference..
- bender000 on 04/01/2021 - 18:03
  
  +1
  
  Translation for normies: does Netflix HD, this Lenovo one doesn't.
  A lot of people buy these Lenovo tablets and get very angry when they can't get their netflix HD dosage
  No idea why Lenovo penny pinches so hard, how much could it cost to bump it to L1 and would ppl even care if it was 5 bucks more expensive or whatever (guessing its mostly for China market, and Western sales are an afterthought)
- oziebee on 04/01/2021 - 18:28
  
  Isnt the Helios processor and ram better than the Samsung a7.
  
  https://versus.com/en/mediatek-helio-p22-vs-qualcomm-snapdra…
  - Bigboomboom on 04/01/2021 - 18:56
    
    What makes you think 8 x A53 (Helio P22T) is better than 4 x A73 + 4 x A53 (SD662) built on a newer process?
    
    RAM is much less important than SoC. You can spam 12GB RAM on Helio P22T and it will still be laggier than 3GB on SD662.
husker on 04/01/2021 - 18:20

Good deal.
Also on Amazon AU for $279 (model numer ZA5T0214AU matches OP)
https://www.amazon.com.au/Lenovo-TAB-M10-FHD-TB-X606F/dp/B08…
oziebee on 04/01/2021 - 18:21

Both are different this a plus version
Batz on 04/01/2021 - 19:52

This was $269 on Amazon less than two weeks ago, I got it pricebeat at OW FOR $255.
sir_bazz on 05/01/2021 - 14:39

Mediatek dammit.

This was posted 3 years 3 months 19 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus 3 10.3" 64GB Wi-Fi (2nd Gen) $279 + Delivery / NSW Pickup @ Mwave

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