[PC] Epic - The Witcher 3: Game of the Year Edition - ~$5.24/Hades ~$6.50 (buying with Russian VPN required) - Epic Games

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  reloxation on 20/02/2021 - 08:29

  +7

  Isn't that kind of annoying to have to log out and log into another account every time you want to play a game? I mean, I understand the price is excellent, but you're losing a bit of convenience. Especially with how crappy the Epic Games Launcher runs in my experience.

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  syousef on 20/02/2021 - 08:55

  +2

  There should be a rule that anything that is a hack, region or otherwise, that is very likely to get your account banned should not be posted as a deal.

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    donm on 20/02/2021 - 12:55

    They just need a caveat emptor statement.

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    Lysander on 20/02/2021 - 14:30

    -4

    Can you provide your source for that statement that it is likely to get your account banned? Remember that the T&Cs of Epic are not identical to the T&Cs of Steam. Were it with regard to Steam I would definitely agree. Here I do not see explicit statements to that effect in the T&Cs (at least the last time I checked).
    Also, I have clearly stated the safe way to do it so there is no risk to get your main account banned.

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      syousef on 21/02/2021 - 10:41

      You're pulling my leg right? In case you aren't here's the first Google hit for "vpn epic games store" without the quotes:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/(profanity)/comments/ifrr2j/warning_to_epic_games_users_with_a_vpn/

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        Lysander on 22/02/2021 - 22:34

        -2

        1. Did you read the comment? It was locked because the VPN made it appear as suspicious activity and the poster talked about the difficulty of getting it back after that. It was not banned or locked because of VPN use per se.
           Also it is the experience of one person. I have never had that experience when merely checking prices via VPN (which according to the post should be enough to get your account locked) and my friends who bought games have not had any problems either.

        2. The last time I examined the T&Cs the provisions found in Steam T&Cs etc. were absent so not the same consequences as with Steam.

        3. Most importantly, if you make a separate account and do NOT use your main account, the only risk is you lose the Russian account, and no more.

        There is little to no evidence thus far that the VPN use to buy (as opposed to suspicious activity) has resulted in a banned account.

        But as I acknowledge there is always a risk, I have clearly stated to make a new and separate account to guard against such.

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          syousef on 23/02/2021 - 07:42

          +2

          @Lysander: Ok first "make a separate account" is absolutely ridiculous, and not worth the effort. How many Epic accounts are you going to manage? One per country you find a bargain in?

          It should be pretty damn obvious that using a VPN to get a lower price is not something a company like Epic is going to be okay with. They go to great lengths to set up regions and set pricing. At best they won't consider it worth pursuing. At worst, they reserve the right to ban you without giving a reason, so annoying them is bone headed.

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            Lysander on 23/02/2021 - 12:39

            -1

            @syousef: You cannot be serious?
            Making an account to save say $40 is not worth it to you?
            Let us be generous: if it takes you 10 minutes and you save $30 that is an hourly rate of $180.
            Plus, in the future you can buy other games cheaper.
            No changing back and forth with accounts.
            To Epic it will be a lot more suspicious changing regions of your main account.
            Or, if I do not have an Epic account yet, I make a Russian one and simply use that. Simple.

            What about this: I just have my cousin in Russia make an account, he buys it as he lives there, and then I play it.
            That way all is above board, right?

            I never said Epic is thrilled but unlike Steam they have not put clauses in their T&Cs which means the risk of being banned, especially if you make a separate account, is very slim to non-existent. That is all I said.

            " At worst, they reserve the right to ban you without giving a reason" - could not see that with Epic but Humble Bundle has that clause. By the way, that clause is non-enforceable and would not stand up in court (source: my profession).

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              syousef on 23/02/2021 - 13:09

              +2

              @Lysander: Having your stuff scattered amongst many accounts is a pain in the neck. If you don't understand that, I have nothing else to offer you.

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                Lysander on 26/02/2021 - 20:09

                @syousef: I understand it is an inconvenience but really, honestly, no more than that and really a very "first world" problem.
                And I understand that people will pay for convenience. For me personally though, 5 minutes work, putting in an extra username and password once into a password manager, is worth it for me to save $30 or $40 but of course I understand everybody is different and I think this is very important as that balances everything out over time.

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                  syousef on 26/02/2021 - 21:03

                  @Lysander: We are going in circles. My password manager has 637 accounts recorded. That doesn't include work. I don't need any more. It might be a first world problem to you, but to me it's time I won't get back. The more things you have, the more time you have to spend managing them, assuming you aren't rich enough to hire someone to do it for you.

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                    Lysander on 26/02/2021 - 21:37

                    @syousef: I do not know what manager you have but with one you put it in and then it is done unless you want to change it.

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                      syousef on 27/02/2021 - 08:04

                      @Lysander: …or you want to set a recovery email address or phone number, or one of those changes….or the vendor upgrades their system and requires action, or you lose track of which accounts run which games (so I hope you put that in your password manager)…etc. Not to mention if one of them gets locked out for whatever reason and you have to go chase it with the vendor.

                      I honestly don't know if you genuinely haven't been around long enough for issues to arise with your accounts, or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Either way I'm done talking to you. Go create and lose control of your 50,000 accounts. I really don't care anymore.

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                        Lysander on 27/02/2021 - 15:30

                        @syousef: Strange. I have about 300 different usernames and passwords and I have never had an issue with one of them.
                        Maybe I was just lucky.
                        For me though adding one more account to save heaps of money is not an issue.
                        I understand your point - my situation is different.

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                          syousef on 27/02/2021 - 16:59

                          @Lysander: If you've really never had to reset an account due to inactivity, or had to recover a password, you've very much in the minority. There is a reason many vendors now include the ability to add several forms of recovery information to an account.

                          Do you see the same messages I see from time to time here, where a person has rebought a game because they didn't realize they'd already acquired it on a different store (e.g. Steam vs Epic)? You do understand that if you have lots of accounts, losing track of what you bought is more likely, don't you?

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  Diji1 on 20/02/2021 - 09:23

  The lie of competition exposed again.

  There is no competition, they're just charging what the market can afford to pay.