Can I Sign into Victorian Venues Using Pen and Paper?

[Deactivated] on 07/05/2021 - 21:01
Last edited 08/05/2021 - 08:29

Many Victorian venues have been mandated to support the Victorian Government's check in app from May of this year.

Problem is I don't want to install a government app on my phone.

I'm happy to click on a link and fill out a form on a web browser but sadly the Victorian government do not provide a web form to fill.

So… can venues still accept pen and paper check ins, or has the Victorian government managed to make a way for every Victorian to be mandated to carry a mobile device with their software running on it?

Edit: link to news story.

Edit: found the following:

If you can’t use a phone, you can check-in on a paper form.

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Comments

  • Nalar on 07/05/2021 - 21:08
    +14

    Yeah, wouldn't want to be tracked by your phone.

    What's your Google maps history settings btw?

  • spackbace on 07/05/2021 - 21:13
    +11

    WA allows forms that you fill in, which generally uses a communal pen, and then publicly displays your name and contact info…

    Or, you could just get the app

    • SF3 on 07/05/2021 - 21:14
      +2

      Solution for OP, don’t go out?

    • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2021 - 12:19
      +1

      publicly displays your name and contact info

      OP doesn't seem like the kind of person that would leave their real details anyway.

  • Wickz on 07/05/2021 - 21:16
    +3

    iPhone supports App Clips - app isnt installed but opens a lite version when needed.

    A COVID checkin tracing app that doesnt save your details is probably the least of your worries when it comes to data tracking…. do you use Google Maps, Facebook, Instagram……

    • Quantumcat on 07/05/2021 - 22:50

      Last I checked Facebook, Google Maps and Instagram don't give your data to the government.

      • Hybroid on 07/05/2021 - 22:54
        +2

        They certainly do.

        Example: https://transparency.facebook.com/government-data-requests/c…

        • Quantumcat on 07/05/2021 - 23:02
          -2

          They need a warrant. Not the same as letting the government store your data with crap security and letting it get hacked.

          • trongy on 07/05/2021 - 23:40

            @Quantumcat: To access metadata retained under Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Act 2015 a warrant is not required unless the subject is a journalist.

            • Quantumcat on 08/05/2021 - 00:22

              @trongy: Well you get my point anyway. All the data you give Facebook isn't sitting in an insecure government Amazon bucket

              • trongy on 08/05/2021 - 08:06
                +1

                @Quantumcat: The Service Vic app is sending the same information as on the paper form - the name that you've typed in (i.e. not necessarily full name), phone number, time and the venue information from the QR code. The app doesn't even require access to the phones GPS location services, bluetooth or contact list, only the camera so it can scan the QR code. It can be run without installation.

                Google and Facebook are collecting way more information and they are doing it continually in the background.

    • silverrat23 on 08/05/2021 - 01:36

      Same with Android phones (for the App Clips).

  • jimbobaus on 07/05/2021 - 21:56

    Friend works at a club in the city… no app no entry according to him

  • jjjaar on 07/05/2021 - 22:17

    The vic gov version now does support web browsers on mobiles. I know this because back in feb it wouldn’t ever work for me but since March it does. I have no idea what changed, but it works for me.

  • WreckTangle on 07/05/2021 - 22:51
    +2

    No ATM cards, myki, work swipecard, or phone connected to the network? Trust me, if the government wanted to spy on you they’d already be doing so.

  • thatonethere on 07/05/2021 - 23:29

    The venue has to provide an alternative method to check you in. Eg ipad or pen and paper.

    Of course they do have the right to turn you away as well.

  • BOGOF on 08/05/2021 - 07:35
    +1

    Can I sign into Victorian venues using pen and paper?

    I think they will insist on quill and parchment.

  • dmbminaret on 08/05/2021 - 08:22

    I agree. Besides the fact that google, facebook, etc can track you, the question at hand is in regard to covid sign in to establishments. While I guess they have the right to refuse entry, I don't believe it should be based on something as frivolous as this. They have dress codes and intoxication policies already, are you really doing something wrong by not wanting to use a digital form of something that was paper very previously?

    What if you don't have a (smart) phone? Yes, they still exist and many older people use them for just calls and possibly text. Should they be excluded from entering a premise for a function?

    The question is not about tracking from your phone, the question is about providing alternatives and choice as we are not all the same with exact same needs. This is what separates us from communism…

    • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2021 - 08:31
      -2

      This is what separates us from communism…

      In Victoria you can't travel more than 5km from home without official permission and papers…

      • Hardlyworkin on 08/05/2021 - 08:37

        Who in the world would want to live in Victoria right now under these oppressive conditions!

      • dmbminaret on 08/05/2021 - 09:23
        +2

        Oh yea, forgot about dictator Dan for a second

      • brendanm on 08/05/2021 - 09:32

        You could move to North Korea and have more freedom.

      • raptormesh on 08/05/2021 - 11:04

        Wait what?

      • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2021 - 12:23
        +2

        In Victoria you can't travel more than 5km from home without official permission and papers…

        Mate, what day do you think it is?

        Stop living in the past.

  • Jugganautx on 08/05/2021 - 09:48

    Wah wah im a victoriannnnn

    Oppressed back to the stone ages

  • bobwokeup on 08/05/2021 - 20:10
    -1

    The problem is with OP not the government they’re doing their best to protect us.

    • [Deactivated] on 08/05/2021 - 21:42
      -1

      You just install whatever app anybody suggests you install? You're very happy to install a government app? How about a root cert mandated by the government, you'd do that too because you 100% trust the authorities!?

      Even after the absolutely dire, shambolic, and flat-out illegal actions Dan Andrews took throughout 2020!?

      • bobwokeup on 09/05/2021 - 22:34
        -1

        Sounds like someone has trust issues or you’re trying to hide something. I’ve got no issues knowing the government knows where I’ve been going.

  • GourmetFoodie on 09/05/2021 - 14:51

    Mate, they are already tracking you because you have a cellphone which is pinging off cell towers constantly. Just download the damn app and sign in. It’s for your own good and the good of society.

  • esty on 17/05/2021 - 14:54
    +1

    if you're worried about being tracked, you shouldn't be using a Smart Phone - Period.

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