I have a 2012 118tsi Golf and want a new set of tyres. I am really confused which ones to get will all these offers like Bridgestone Potenza RE003 buy 3 get 1 free. Looks good but comments on OzBargain are confusing, some says it is a good tyre some says it doesn't last long neither provides good grip.
Any help would be great.
My budget is around $400-$450 for set of 4 tyres. Tyre size is 205/55/R16
Thanks in advance.
My Golf 2012?
I have a 2021 118tsi golf
also a typo?
Uh, make that 16 donuts. :+)
😂😂 sorry for typos. Can you suggest something?
Yeah, it’s a 2012. 😅
Can you suggest something?
Which Tyres Should I Get for My Golf 2012?
Black round variety like 265/30R22 would look awesome
My tyre size is 205/55/R16
I have this profile as well. Have Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus fitted to mine for the past four years; pretty good tyres
No one should be recommending tyres without first finding out how you drive.
What mix of City, Urban, country. Any dirt roads.
Enthusiastic or conservative driver
What loading? Passengers, cargo or just driver
Do you want grip, long life or quiet tyres can’t have all three.
At least you’ve set a budget.
Well I drive a mix of city and country area. I am an enthusiastic driver.I would keep quite attribute on the top. Usually I am the only one driving.
I have a 2012 118tsi Golf
My condolences.
At least he doubles it's value when he puts new tyres on.
If you've had a good run out of your current tyres just get another set put on.
You haven't given enough information for any suitable recommendations to be made.
I currently have mix tyres. Dunlop lm 705 and fm800 I don’t like them they slip like hell in wet and are not good either in dry. Although they lasted me quite long (about 50000 km). I just bought what my mechanic gave me at the time.
Yeah I was not sure at the time what information should be included, well I dive enthusiastically, most of the time it’s just me in the car and I would prefer something a but quieter. I hope this helps
What size tyres? Hard to determine pricing without knowing the specific size.
205/55/R16
whatever you choose, stick to long standing brand name
FWIW just fitted the same size to our VW Bora
only 3000km so far, no complaints
$460 set of 4 with a wheel alignment
better price given on phone (and they were running 4th tyre free promo at the time)
https://www.beaurepaires.com.au/tyres/car-tyres/dunlop-sp-sp…
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Which Tyres Should I Get for My Golf 2012?
Round ones.
Fully sik ones brah. For when you do those hectic up the inside moves at the lights fam.
After all of my life experience…. I would go some good quality All terrain tyres and increase the side profile 5%. So 205/60/16
Otherwise Bridgestone Serenity Plus
Michelin Primacy 4 (there are sub models with the series 4 but just load/speed rating).
Any of the high/ultra high perf Kumho's
So if you increase the profile will the alloy fit in the tyre? I think it should but wanted to be sure.
increase the side profile 5%. So 205/60/16
WTH would you do that?
Why? Have you seen the standard clearance on some vehicles? Some are 5 inches or less from factory…. for everyday vehicles I would argue this is waaay too low. Also, more sidewall can improve general comfort.
5% will also keep the speedo within range and be legal.
OP is in Victoria
VicRoads accepted mods state…
the overall diameter of any replacement rim and tyre must not be more than 15mm greater than largest diameter tyre specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that
model
And you are suggesting a 20mm increase. Nice.
more sidewall can improve general comfort.
And decrease steering effectiveness
Have you seen the standard clearance on some vehicles? Some are 5 inches or less from factory…
I'm not sure what you mean here.
@Muzeeb: Are you talking sidewall diameter or tread diameter?
Debatable difference in steering due to a very small increase in sidewall (which is also highly dependent on how the sidewall is constructed), 55% of 205 is already on the low side (mostly a euro thing for emissions).
Ground clearance.
@Oofy Doofy: The actual wheel/tyre diameter. As in twice the radius.
Tread would be a width measurement not diameter.
With your suggested tyre it would increase sidewall by 10mm. That's a fair difference especially as op is an enthusiastic driver.
What's wrong with 5" of ground clearance?
@Muzeeb: Wasn't clear to me… I also didn't see where you got that line of text from (not linked)
5'' is not even enough for your driveway let alone a trip to your local woolies carpark or a concrete jungle multi level carpark.
I'm sure there is a wheel and tyre combo that was available for this vehicle at some point that went above 16" and the change in sidewall %
5'' is not even enough for your driveway let alone a trip to your local woolies carpark or a concrete jungle multi level carpark.
I've been driving around with 5" ground clearance for years and haven't come across any problems (yet!). The axle placement makes a difference.
@bobbified: One of my station wagons was 110mm stock, unladen. Unbelievable. It used to hit things all the time. With shock wear and spring sag as the years have gone by, at one point it measured at 95mm or less.
IIRC it was under 90mm
This answer is why I would never post an automotive question on OzBargain lmao
Trolling is strong in this thread….
The RE003 is a great deal but if you want long life out of your tyres, there is better options out there for you. They're a performance tyre so will grip well but will wear quicker (softer compound will give more grip but less life) and likely be noisier than a regular passenger car tyre. They would be the best tyre you can get in your budget but they will need replacing a lot earlier than getting say a set of Dunlop SP Sport's for an extra $50.
They would be the best tyre you can get in your budget
Best for sport driving. Not best for noise. Not best for wear. not best for driving to work in heavy traffic daily.
There is no ‘best tyre’ only ‘best tyre for ….’
Thanks for the help Which dunlop should I go with and can you suggest something that will be quite and comfortable.
At that budget, probably a SP Sport LM705, I don't believe they're great in wet weather though.
If you can push the budget to about $500, you should be able to get Kumho Ecsta HS51's which are a much better tyre.
If it were me, I'd be putting on the RE003's but I don't do 20,000kms/year. Don't even do 1/3 of that
Yeah I would do 20000kms/year easily, will all this EOFY there is nothing else available on discount?
@WhoaMMii: Dunlop are also doing the 4th tyre free with the LM705's.
Call them and ask for a price. I don't think they're a terrible tyre but most reviews say wet weather grip is very average.
Goodyear are also doing them on select tyres which may be a better option.
@whitelie: what do you think about Continental UltraContact 6 they are 120 a piece on bob jane and 50$ cashback, I am running lm 705 they are not at all good in wet my car goes all over.
@whitelie: The pirelli cinturato p7 and p6 are also on sale for about 102$ per tyre, not sure how they compare but I read some reviews online and they say it wear very easily.
https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/goodride/sl369_suv_off…
Just an example. You'll get a 1cm lift in ride height too.
This is a terrible suggestion and I'm going to assume by our posts above that you know nothing about tyres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fj7UypRe7g
lol, dude.
I should have said 2cm earlier though, but that's unladen.
I should have said 2cm earlier though, but that's unladen.
No you shouldn't have. A 2cm increase in diameter gives a 1cm increase in ride height.
@brendanm: I used a tyre height calculator online, I think the math of it is confusing me, haha.
Thanks for the clarification.
20mm sidewall diameter increase in total, but a 10mm increase in ride height.
Why would you suggest some Chinese crap in all terrain for a guy who wants to drive enthusiastically in a hatch?
Also as mentioned, the change in diameter makes it illegal on that type of vehicle.
Just an excuse to link to his YouTube channel for subs.
it's not my channel, lmao
I made other mentions too.
You don't know what a tyre is like until it's been thoroughly tested, which is why that video was linked. A pretty reasonable review.
@Oofy Doofy: There was no point linking it. It’s an all terrain tyre on an AWD SUV. Has no relevance to a city bound hatch back. All terrain means bit of mud, dirt and road. Not city, country roads.
Even if it is an OK tyre, doesn’t mean the rest of their range is any good.
@Euphemistic: It means a bit of everything, you're usually adding a little more noise and a little more fuel usage. Ride compliance can be worse, but can be made up for with sidewall increase. Not all tyres are created equally and in some areas there can be very little difference with certain attributes compared to your usual road tyres.
Another thing is that A/Ts by default are more heavy duty all-rounders for normal usage. Just real world experience on my end.
@Oofy Doofy: Do you run them? On what vehicle?
If you never go off road you are compromising grip and wet wether performance for no benefit. They are only of benefit it you travel on unsealed surfaces.
The AT tyres on my ute are terrible in the wet, but more robust for when I go bush and provide better grip in soft stuff.
@Euphemistic: Grip in the wet is all compound softness, tread drainage and siping.
In most cases I notice specs of H/T and A/T using harder compounds. I guess it depends on how much you're willing to spend. Or maybe not…there may very well be little point to using softer compounds due to prevention of tyre bead coming off the rim itself.
@Oofy Doofy: The tread is not designed to drain water. The compound is harder than road tyres to cope with gravel and rocks and the bigger separate blocks that squirm around more.
Softer tyre compound will not affect the bead coming off the rim. The tyre compound mainly refers to the tread section, not the sidewall.
Sounds like you’ve read a bit about tyres and bamboozled yourself.
@Euphemistic: There are many design aspects to a tyre that can increase the likelihood of tyre bead separation, not including the rim it is attached to (size) sidewall diameter, load, internal pressure, heat, flexion etc - and yes, compound hardness/softness plays into this
Of course the tread is designed to drain water, among other things (since you're talking A/T). 'A' tyre compound can be throughout the whole tyre (because this is usually cheaper and easier for mass scale production)….
How deep should I go with my replies….
@Euphemistic: Yes I do run A/T's, on a medium Euro station wagon, a small-med Korean station wagon and a medium sized Japanese SUV.
30mm lift on first car (strut lift), 30mm lift on second (strut lift), 40mm lift on third (HD lift kit). All with 5% tyre sidewall dia increases on top of that.
And I have different sets of rims with previous road going tyres for two of the vehicles.
medium sized Japanese SUV
An ASX (which I assume you are talking about) is categorised as small and must handle like a shopping trolley with a lift kit and incorrect tyres.
@Muzeeb: ASX is considered a small SUV, as per vehicle segment size specifications. It was the permanent replacement vehicle for the Mitsubishi Lancer.
Some vehicles do massage the dimensions to cross over into the next size up. I don't know the criteria for when they enter a different segment.
It's actually a 4WD diesel Outlander.
Of course the tread is designed to drain water, among other things (since you're talking A/T)
We are talking AT tyres because you started it, suggesting them for a Golf. AT tread design is compromised for draining water compared to regular road going tyres. It is designed for dealing with grip on rocks and gravel and shedding mud (which is different to water)
Do you regularly drive on unsealed surfaces? Ie beach, gravel, grass and mud? If you don’t, you should run H/T tyres designed for Highway Terrain, not AT. FWIW HT tyres can and do work on the beach and gravel if only occasionally and provide better experience on the road.
Why do you run a lift in your vehicles? Just to get over speed humps? It compromises handling
I’m just trying to understand. If it works for you, that’s fine. but you shouldn’t be recommending lift and ATs to others unless they drive unsealed roads daily.
@Euphemistic: Works for me, minimal difference other than increased noise (depends on tyre for how bad that is) and increased fuel usage.
I can't really say if the handling has been affected all that much, it doesn't seem to be the case, but I don't drive on racetracks.
Considering the vehicles are on unsealed, uneven and gravel surfaces at least 25-30% of the time, it's been worth it. You'd be surprised how often you don't need a 4wd to do things you'd assume only a 4wd could do.
Another nice benefit has been more sidewall = less pinch flats because of modern low profile tyres, and a side benefit of (longest time ever) with no tread surface punctures from random pieces of metal
Aquaplaning… Well I feel that it is less of a concern compared to normal road going tyres, certainly seems that way when I've had the opportunity to test. Not that I've ever turned off TC. All of the vehicles have stability control.
@Oofy Doofy: Fair enough. For using 25-30% unsealed it’s probably worth it. Just don’t recommend your setup for others that only drive in the city.
Totally agree that too many people think that you need a lift kit and mud tyres to park in the grass at kids sport. Drive a 2wd carefully and it’ll go most places you want to go.
What LOL
Hey OP
Do not follow any advice from bamboozle in this thread.
How many accounts do you have on here?
Yeah No, not at all. I will be sticking to my size. Besides, I am inclined to go towards Continental UltraContact 6 what are your opinion on that.
You said you had a budget…they will blow your budget.
Continental are lower grade than Bridgestone and Michelin
https://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/au/bridgestone/turanza/…
They fit, but if you can find Michelin Primacy 4/4S for cheaper, I'd go them, but there's not much between them.
Umm on bobjane continental ultra contact 6 are 120 per tyre +50$ cash back so will be 430$ for 4 tyres. I tried looking for Michelin but they are pretty expensive.
@WhoaMMii: Nice find.
I still don't rate Continental above the two models I mentioned.
If it's down to price, get what you can afford.
If you've never driven on the two I mentioned, you'll be mightily impressed. Quietness, ride comfort, grip in all conditions, longevity etc.
Bridgestone actually have a very good customer care program if you go directly through them.
Michelin feels they can demand a premium, and to be fair they are probably right.
Get Michelin Primacy 4. Michelin were an OEM tyre on many VWs. They will be around $520-$540 a set but will last at least 70,000km if they are cross-rotated every 15k km and the wheel alignment is done properly.
Failing that, Contintal Premium Contact 6. They'll be around $440 but will probably only give around 50k km
by any chance would you know where can I find the cheapest price on Michelin
tempe tyres or Costco
I have a set of hankook k415 optimo tyres on my car. No complaints so far, a good korean tyre with a nice balance of performance, economy, and price. Got them for about $80 something each fitted at Bob Jane TMart (mine were r15). You can generally go into a tyre store and ask around. Most will be happy to generate a list of current specials or options for your tyre profile. Sometimes these prices might be better than what you find online or they might have a tyre in a brand/option that wasn't showing online so good to ask around.
i replaced my Falken 914 (4mm thread left) with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus in Sept 2020. Price: $550 for tyres + wheel alignment. Free tyre checkups and 10k rotations every 6 months or 5000kms. Bridgestone has a 50,000 km warranty on these Turanza Serenity Plus, provided the servicing are done on time. These Turanza are much better than the previous Falkens in terms of grip, noise, and harshness. My Honda Jazz doesn't have much of noise insulation to begin with; the driving experience improved significantly with these new tyres. I won't worry about the 50k km warranty too much for a small vehicle.
I would have gone for Michelin Primacy 3/4 if they manufacture 175/65/R15 tyres.
4 Sets of tyres is 12 tyres.
You won't even get 12 retreads for $400-450
Would 1 set of 4 work for you?
Why do you want new tyres for a 2021 Golf anyway, what have you done to them?