Dishonest Sellers on Aliexpress. Fake Tracking Number Showing as Delivered!

I've bought a bunch of items lately on Aliexpress and had lots of issues with sellers saying they do not have the item in stock, or trying to get me to pay additional post.

One seller requested me to cancel my order as it was not in stock but by the time I saw the message they added a tracking number and I was unable to cancel. The tracking was updating as arrived in Australia around a week later, then showed onboard for delivery and delivered by atl. I also got an email from Aliexpress to pick up the parcel at the post office but no record of it at the post office, or from Australia Post.

I confirmed with Australia Post that the item was never received by them so it would appear it is some kind of fake tracking system as it did also arrive and update unusually fast.

I am now worried I will not get a refund because its marked as sent, and this is some kind of scam set up. Although ive had lots of dishonest and annoying sellers in the past, saying they dont have an item in stock and a long time waste in getting money back.

Never actually had an item say it has arrived when it hasn't. I paid with Paypal, but would that even help if marked as received?

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  • +4

    It's a common scam these days. You buy something that's often much cheaper than other sellers, they ask you to pay more or to cancel the order. If you don't pay more or cancel they'll marked it as shipped with someone elses tracking number. Once you mark the order as confirmed, that's when the funds are released to them.

    Definitely raise a dispute on the transaction with AliExpress if it lets you. Obviously providing screenshots of them asking for money and anything in writing you may have got from Auspost. Sometimes you can even use the bot in the AliExpress help centre on the app to raise a dispute if it won't let you yet.

    I always try to avoid the sellers with <95% feedback and any with "3C" in their name are almost guaranteed to be scammers.

    Common scams on AliExpress

    • -3

      AliExpress will not do anything, AliExpress is a very seller bias platform, They will not care and just says its delivered. Open a dispute with PayPal and you will be almost guaranteed a refund. Especially you have proof that auspost says it isn't even in their system

      • +2

        I have to disagree with you there. A couple of months ago I had the same scam pulled on me, except the tracking number provided had the order returned to seller a week prior. The dispute was closed in my favour within minutes. Infact all of my recent disputes have been closed in my favour pretty quickly.

        AliExpress have certainly upped their game recently, like requiring sellers to provide tracked postage since China Post kept losing everything last year. Offering sellers fast shipping (2-4 weeks) with Alibaba's own Cainiao carrier has also been a big improvement.

        Of course if you're account is brand new or only has a couple of orders they will be less generous. Unfortunately they like to flag new accounts as more likely to scam than more established accounts.

        • +1

          except the tracking number provided had the order returned to seller a week prior

          Thats why you got the refund, because the the tracking said it was returned to seller

          • +1

            @jayboi: Sure. All my other non-delivery disputes were also approved.

            • -1

              @Clear: Oh ok, AliExpress customer service is really good when you have an account that is older with an extensive purchase history, the problem arises when you have a newer account with very few orders.

              • +1

                @jayboi: Yes that is correct.

              • +2

                @jayboi: Start building up a decent account. I once pushed my luck on a refund for some clothes because I didn't like how the buttons looked as compared to the pictures. Got a straight refund of $70 because I cited "wasn't as shiny as the picture" LOL and didn't even need to return the items.

  • +1

    I've had a few fake tracking numbers, but never one that ended up being delivered.

    I now avoid anyone using ePacket as they have been the fakes. (it used to be the fastest, reasonably priced, shipping option too)

    Generally I'm just avoiding AliExpress though.
    eBay prices are generally comparable and I'm yet to have a problem with them.

  • +1

    I don't order things from AE unless I really have to, for similar reasons. In my case of a seller going back on their (written) word regarding an order, the so-called buyer protection advertised everywhere on the site did nothing. Managed to get through to a real person in CS but they were disinterested in anything I had to say/any chat transcripts from my convo with the seller; just kept repeating that the tracking is showing as delivered, then closed the case in the seller's favour. I'd try talking to Paypal first as I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get anywhere with an AE dispute.

  • If Jack Ma disappears then not surprised

    • +1

      Did the CCP send him via tracked postage?

      • +1

        Black courier van door to door I imagine, express delivery

  • I have purchased heaps of things through AliExpress, and have had few problems. If an order has been lost in every case I have been refunded in 1-2 day's in almost all cases.
    Not sure if my platinum membership level makes much difference ??????. At least with AX, you know where they are coming from!, with Fleabay so much is passed off as local but it is often it's from China or HK (China)!, so I almost never buy through them these day's!.

    • I've gotten all my refunds, but have had to wait 60 days in order to be able to raise a dispute despite paying for expedited shipping (15-20 days).
      Also had items shipped standard after paying for expedited shipping.

      The fake eBay location pisses me off too, but I have to admit I haven't seen it for a while.

      • Through the AliExpress app in the help centre you can use the bot to raise a dispute earlier.

  • there is a link that t will show the suburb it has been delivered to, so if its someone elses tracking number you can prove ir
    Also a courier company is marking items as delivered when they arent, this happmed to me on 6 items and put me out of business
    It was fastway and their new name. They sent them back and also messed up the addresses. I took it up with them but ended up just quitting

  • +1

    I have had this happen twice and have been able to get a refund both times. Both were small purchases (under $20).
    In one case I opened a dispute as tracking hadn't updated since leaving China and the shop refunded me straight away.

    In the other instance there was no tracking, but the seller added a tracking number as soon as I opened the dispute. This tracking number ended up being for a completely different order that was delivered to someone in another state. Seller was very cagey when asked about this.
    I contacted AusPost and got an email from them saying "The package for this tracking number was not addressed to you, and based on your description this package did not contain the item you ordered". After showing this email to AliExpress they intervened and forced the seller to refund me. This whole process took about two weeks.

    • Going through the same thing now as well (for the second time). Tracking hasn't updated since China. It's been two months and no movement. Still, apparently can't open a dispute for another 40 days.

      I don't get the reason for this, it's not like the seller benefits or anything. But it has been more common recently.

  • The price paid for saving a few sheckles…

  • i must be lucky. i think i got a fake tracking number for one item last year during the covid outbreak which showed it delivered to a different state and got a refund. but otherwise everything has arrived eventually. i've even bought things without issue from stores which had just opened.

  • I just realised more of my orders the same thing happened. Fake tracking numbers. One to Saudi Arabia, and Ive already waited a month. Seems like the low standards of Aliexpress have gone even lower. I did get a refund for some of them, but will that reflect badly on me for opening so many cases? Quite disapointing because Ive used Aliexpress for years. The last year, had some orders go badly but some good but the last lot were almost all bad!

  • Recently things seem to have gotten worse at Aliexpress. I've had a few parcels "returned to seller", "import terminated" or delivered to Perth in the most recent case. Twice I've not received a refund and now again. A manager called Raisa emailed me that it's delivered so no refund, even though the customer service rep said they added that information to the refund request. I could complain all day with evidence in hand to Aliexpress customer service but nobody gives a shit there or they are powerless. They will make you think you are going to get a refund but it's all BS. SAMR is the market regulator that fined the parent company U.S.$2.4B (close enough). I think they are like the ACCC. Can I file a complaint? Here is a phone number and address: Alibaba (China) Co., Ltd: 969 West Wen Yi Road Yu Hang District Hangzhou 311121 China Tel: (+86) 571-8502-2088 Fax: (+86) 571-8526-9066. I would love to speak to Raisa and if he/she made this decision of his/her own volition I would try to make her cry and shit her pants. Screw Aliexpress. Might be time for another bank dispute. First was $70US and second will be $249US. Wonder how that will go down with ANZ?

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