Looks like SCA have a clearance on all the Phillips bulbs
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/batteries-electrical/globe…
H7 whitevision also down to $15.00 from $79.99
Mixed reviews in terms of white level on the H4's as they are only 3700k but for this price they seem to be good value and I've always found the Phillips bulbs to perform well and last.
Just put new whitevision ultras in my car but at this price I’ll keep a set of these aside
Would they fit Ford Territory?
Not sure, but I think it depends on the year of your Territory. Looks like they may have gone from H4's to H7's at some point.
Nope, Territory uses H7's for both
It's definitely H4 and H7 but I am not sure about watt rating.
For an SZ model. Both are H7's.
Just grabbed H7's, couldn't pass it up
same, no stock at local though. had to have it delivered.
Buy extra so you don't have to drive to the shop, only to have to later drive to the shop for a refund..
not cool, save some for the rest of us hey… greedy bastard !
logged in just to downvote you
Thanks. All my locals were out of stock
Thanks for that! I nearly pressed the button to pay postage from Supercheap.
Dangit I already paid $5 for postage… ah well $20 is pretty good anyway!
I run these exact bulbs and they significantly outperform other Xenon bulbs on the market.
Although I don't need any at the moment I can't not buy a spare set at this price!
No halogen can outperform any real HID Xenon bulbs.
Those that replace their own headlights please make sure they are aligned properly. Police can pull you over and fine you for this. So many people driving in my area on high beams or one light on high beam cause they didn't install their lights properly.
How do people manage that? High beams are generally a different globe and wiring circuit to low beam
Not H4. H4 are a two in one globe.
I thought about that after I replied. You're right, high and low in the one bulb. Still not sure how you'd get the plug to go on the wrong way though?
@t25: thats incorrect, there is always someone that can do something special no one else can do.. ask this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJfKobaLoI
I have a 2001 Camry, and can confirm that while the headlight bulb is separate from the high beam bulb, the headlight is specified as H4 and the high beam h3. Does that just mean that the Camry is set up to not use one of the filaments in the h4? Or that it will use both? If one, which one?
@t25: From the manual:
Outer headlight: h4
Inner headlight: hb3
Parking lights: wedge base bulb
I have the manual open in from of me. It's page 225
@Jackson: Some cars have just H4, cars like Camry have H4 plus separate high beam globe. I also have this model Camry and when high beam on, there are 4 globes in total. To that end, it has much better high beam than cars with 2 globes only.
@placard: Pretty sure on mine the H4/standard beam is not active when the high beam is on (I checked tonight). I didn't put the bulbs in so can't say for sure if they are the dual filament ones but pretty sure they are. Let me know if you check and find different
@Jackson: If that's the case you have issues with your wiring. My Camry was the updated look of that model, where they changed from frosted glass headlights to the 'see through' reflector type - where the front casing it clear and you can see the bulbs.
There is definitely 4x lights in this model Camry - H4 for low/high beam (dual filament globe) and I think HB3 for the inside 2 globes - highbeam only.
When low beam is on, only H4 globe runs using low beam filament (2 outside globes).
When high beam is on, H4 globe changes to high beam filament (low beam filament turns off) and also HB3 turns on as well - so 4x globes running.
@placard: Mine is the updated model I am pretty sure, as its 01, and it has glass headlights, but I m not sure what you mean but see through reflectors type? But it is the one that doesn't just have straight lights on the back, there's a slight curve on them. Mine definitely is clear and you can see th bulbs through it. I will take a photo for you so you can see what I mean. There are 4 lights on but pretty sure 2 of them are just the park lights. I have known the history of the car for 18 of the 20 years it's been on the road, and it's got log books from Toyota for most of that time so it would be surprising to me to find a wiring issue. Give me a few hours and I will post back
@Jackson: See my pic here I've just notated: https://ibb.co/vvn7588 Since you said you have the updated model where you can see the bulbs through it the front plastic and the light is reflected onto the road from the reflective panel at rear of assembly. Older cars don't have 'see through' plastic, and have lens look mounted on the front of assembly such as this earlier model Camry one: https://tinyurl.com/27tzphrx you cannot see the globe from the outside.
H4 globe is in the larger section of the headlight assembly. HB3 is in the smaller section closer to the grille. Parking light sits in the little hole next to H4 globe.
For low beam - only H4 on each side of car is operating.
For high beam - H4 should change to high beam filament + HB3 globe should also turn on = 4 globes operating.
Of course parking light (dim small globe) is operating any time low or high beam lights are on.
Hope this helps clear up your confusion.
@placard: I just went out and checked again, and I don't know how I didn't see it the first time, it's clear as, you're absolutely right. on hi beam both turn on. I've not had a car that I knew did that before. Are you sure the light is plastic though? I'm positive the front lens is glass, it hasn't yellowed and fogged one bit.
On a side note I missed this deal as I checked the service manual and manual which would have probably been the US version, which said the bulbs are HB4 and not H4, so I ended up buying the Philips Eco bulbs instead which are still on sale. I'm not fussed about the colour really and probably just like the idea of not having to change them as often.
@Jackson: Glad it's sorted out! Actually maybe I should check if it is glass. I thought most were polycarbonate now, but you're right they haven't yellowed at all.
I really hate polycarbonate due to the yellowing nature of it. Funnily enough though if you put headlight protectors on, it stops the yellowing. Shame they can't make the headlights out of the same material as headlight covers as they don't yellow hehe.
Some cars only have the H4 globe, not the HB3 like Camry and therefore the high beams are not nearly as bright. Camry has really good high beam due to having 4 globes going.
@placard: Yeah my old car (elantra) had h7 and it handled both with the one bulb. It wasn't bad, but it had plastic headlights and they yellowed badly (at least one side did, the replacement on the other side from a small prang years ago still looks new). I actually sanded it back and sprayed it with clear coat, and the results were amazing but the clear coat I got was not UV resistant and yellowed, so it needs redoing with a better. Chrisfix has a video on YouTube which is concise which I followed.
I don't know anything about these H4 globes but i am guessing their whole headlight fixture is tilted / aligned wrong. It is on 'low beam" but it appears to be a high beam and in opposite drivers eyes.
Bahahahaha that's not how it works, cant have one on high and another on low unless both high and low is turned on for liek H7 but 1 globe is dead. H4 is both hi/low. Plus this is a halogen whether in a reflector or progection assembly it won't make much of a difference. Its LEDs and HID in reflectors that can cause issues
Do you never see cars driving with one light normal beam and other high beam? I see at least one or two every week.
Might be just the angle you are looking at?
One headlight is always designed to travel the light further than the other one. Just don’t remember which side.
@Blue Cat: This is true, and it depends on what side of the road we drive.
If we drive on the left, the right should shine lower to avoid blinding oncoming traffic, whereas the left can shine higher giving you more clarity of the side of the road in case a pedestrian or something is there.
I think it's more as you said above, that they have played with the angle and messed it up. I suppose when fitting them yourself, maybe they're not putting the 3 tabs in correctly or mounting one upside down or something it could throw it out.
I think the issue is exaggerated with the popularity of SUV's and 4WD's that sit higher so the light is directly at sedan/hatch driver or rear view height.
The driver's side is meant to fall shorter than the passenger side so it doesn't aim up in to oncoming traffic.
Yeah, it's each light is tilted at a different angle, not one on high one on low. From an electrical standpoint its not really possible to have one on low and one on high.
That's probably the parkers
more likely the headlight in question has been repaired due to an accicent and they have not adjusted for the reapairs.
Even then, better quality LEDs are okay as they have glare 'bowl' cut off similar to how regular H4 globes have it to shield the filament. The cheaper LEDs with no glare shield, or LEDs positioned anywhere is what causes light scatter. Some quality LEDs actually position the light at the same point the halogen would along with the shield in place:
ie
https://www.stedi.com.au/copper-head-h4-led-head-light-conve…
So these LEDs can be used in a reflector headlight (or is it for projectors)?
will this fit my 2013 twin turbo with nitrous toyota tarago family van?
only the model with slicks
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec system exhaust.
Would they fit Mazda 3 MY2014? the halogen bulb looks so shit at night…
Tempted but also considering LED retrofits instead. E.g.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-Philips-LED-Headlight-Kit-H7-…
With that colour temperature, I doubt it would be road legal.
Most, if not all, LED retrofits aren't ADR approved just as an FYI.
If your headlights are projectors then go with LED.
That looks interesting
Check the H7 fittings in your car. I have H7 projectors but it's impossible to fit LEDs due to the large heatsink on the back of the light.
Aftermarket LED globes like those aren't great for low beam headlights.
Why?
I get some cheap Ebay ones might not be good, but a decent brand of LED headlights from say Phillips will have had a lot of work making them mimic halogen well. Philips don't sell junk.
The ones linked by julz may have Philips SMDs, but the gloves themselves aren't manufactured by them.
However, this kit installed in some proper projector-style headlight housings would be far better.
Hmm…. interesting. Apparently the Philips Ultinon lights use Lumiled chips. But the ones in the link you provided lack the cooling; the second gen Ultinon ones have a massive heatsink (first gen had a fan, which apparently did not last well under all weather conditions). The ones in that link supposedly also have the driver built-in. These things must get insanely hot, as both the bulb and the driver of the Ultinon get hot.
I really wonder whether this is a Philips product. The only other place I can see this product is https://www.sunyee.com.au/products/2x-philips-led-headlight-…
Maybe they use the same chip, maybe they don't. But I don't see how this product, with driver built into the bulb, and without any cooling, can be as reliable as a proper Philips Ultinon bulb.
It is immediately obvious that LED headlights are retrofitted to your insurer. Get into a big accident and they will probably be looking for ways to not pay. If an assessor sees white light (most LEDs are about 5700-6000k) out of a factory-halogen car, they're smart enough to know that colour far exceeds the legal limit of 4200k.
Hey, it's not all bad though. There's research showing that the lower colour temperature helps your eyes see more. Sucks it is ugly though. I wish some manufacturer could just get ADR approval, I'd be willing to pay a lot.
Grabbed as spares. Thanks!
Good deal, cheers. No local stock so $5 delivery can't complain.
supercheap site says the part isn't compatible for the H7 listing for my car - but powerbulbs.com says my car uses H7's. Strange?
Also these are 3700K right? Still pretty yellow?
You can physically check what is in your car right now so you get the right ones.
It might be the high beams. In my car, the high beams are H7 but low beams are H11.
I dunno powerbulbs says H7 Dipped Beam (headlight), Full/High Beam H7
Eh I bought a pack of H7. If it doesn't fit I'll return it
Right its probably H7 for both then. You can check your owner's manual to see exactly what you need.
H7 is a dual filament bulb. Can do both low and high beam.
The melting point of tungsten is 3695K, so even Philips is being a bit cheeky with their marketing. The only thing real about a 4000K or 4200K light bulb is the marketing text.
I think you may be mixing up colour temperature with physical temperature which are different properties.
There is a small amount of light output above the temperature of the filament, but it's insignificant compared to the bulk of the light builb's output.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/dT3mv.jpg
Blue tinted light bulbs are actually dimmer than their clear glass counterparts (with all other factors being equal) as the tinting blocks light from the filament. Sure, what you see is 'whiter', but you're also seeing less light compared to using clear glass.
There is so much marketing fluff and nonsense surrounding halogen light bulbs that it's no wonder many people still believe it.
They add a slight blue tint on the bulbs which whitens the colour temp.
Excellent price for the H7s. Bought a pack. Previously I bought these for about $35 delivered from Powerbulbs.
I have used these light bulbs in the past and they are noticeably whiter and brighter than standard, and the lifespan was almost a year so not too bad there as well. Note, you'll never get "white" light from a halogen bulb, but these are pretty good.
Wait…..1 year lifespan for halogen headlight bulbs is good? Are we talking 24/7?
I use to buy brighter types of globes but never lasted long. Also purchased from Powerbulbs.
I then purchased OSRAM Ultra Life's…. been about 4 years now (3 in Covid years) and not one has blown.
I have a car with Xenons and they put the halogen 'super white' bulbs to shame.
Then I purchased a car with LEDs.. and that's even better than Xenons, but no where near the jump from Halogens to Xenon.
No stock near me. Good luck to the rest of you
Thank you sir. Got the H7 for the other's car.
can you send me the link of h7 I cannot find it
mine says Delivery Unavailable?
All Gone in minutes
Check the ebay link above, still on there.
Thanks mate. Almost missed it. Brought 2 for my both cars luckily both H4. Cheers
This is a very good price. I have used Whitevision in multiple cars, and found that their colour temperature is advertised with different values, depending on the country and the bulb type. I have unsuccessfully queried Philips on this. I have seen anywhere between 3700 and 4300 being on packaging.
My feedback: these bulbs do not last long. You are lucky to get a year out of them. I switched over to Osram cool blue intense, which I get from Powerbulbs for ~25AUD (paying in GBP using card without foreign exchange fees). I find the Osram ones to last a bit longer, and are comparable in terms of whiteness and brightness.
For one car, I switched over to using Philips Xtreme Ultinon, which have a fanless design and give a bright crisp white light (no blue tint) with perfect light pattern. This cost $240 (Powerbulbs, with discount code), but saves me buying and installing white halogen bulbs every year.
I've been using the Osram Cool Blue Intense for around 21 months now, and they still seem to be going strong. How long did yours last?
Hard to be exact as I have been driving less, but about a year for H7's in a projector case (driving about 10,000km, mostly with lights off). Whitevision lasted less than that, in one case only 3 months.
For the other car, I got 2 years, but probably not much more in distance. Those were H11 in a projector case.
For whiter (hotter) bulbs, they normally indicate a life expectancy of 300-400 hrs. This seems about right. With so many cars having retrofit LED bulbs nowadays (including some seriously dodgy installs), I'd recommend Philips Xtreme Ultinon for any modern car.
damn those Ultinons are expensive, never heard of them.. Just realised they're LEDs though so not worth the risk being unroadworthy and/or blinding other people unless you upgrade to self levelling headlight enclosures.
Will check out the Osrams, just want a decent H11 upgrade over the super yellow/dark standard bulbs in a ford ranger
@wozz: The Ultinon ones have the same pattern as normal Halogen's, but they are a little brighter. I do not expect the car would fail a road worthiness test with them, based on feedback I got about people who got them tested. True, there is a risk of blinding if you have a heavy load in the back, but I get blinded constantly by vehicles with factory-fitted LED's…..
Yes, costs a bit unfortunately, but having to replace "white halogens" frequently has a cost too. Amazing that in the current day and age we are still stuck with halogen bulbs in brand new cars unless you pay a premium.
@Make it so: I recently bought some from STEDI - they were $150 pair, but when you think some of these decent brighter globes can cost $30-40 per pair and have such short lifespans it's not really that expensive in the long run.
Halogen is such old technology, and even those extra bright ones tend to dim over time.
I totally agree, the cheap Ebay LED globes are not good - they don't have the glare shield cut offs like the Halogen H4 has. More expensive LEDs will incorporate this in to mimic the light pattern of the halogen. You may also need to slightly adjust your headlight aim after this.
I've also seen factory fitted LED lights in the last 1-2 years that are also blinding/glary/harsh, so to say that it's only aftermarket bulbs that do this is wrong. - I'm talking Prados, Hilux, etc. They seem worse too as these vehicles are higher.
@placard: Yeah, it's rare not to be blinded by a 4WD with LED bulbs. And there's something to be said for safety too - I get much better visibility immediately in front of the car with LED's (not talking long-distance, which would cause people to be blinded).
@placard: My stedi h7s lasted 3 yrs. One of the drivers or Globes failed and it now Flickers.
The light output was great and white, matched my drls exactly.
Agree it's not as blinding as some oem cars these days.
@Make it so: @make it so
They would fail roadworthy.. you can't just put led globes even with the correct cutoff etc.. there is a whole certification process that needs to be done.. and part of that process requires self levelling headlight enclosures.. so new cars that have led lights require these. Yes you can still get dazzled by them but there is much less chance they'll dazzle you over a long distance up or down a hill for example.
I would pay whatever i need to if there was a complete conversion.. low beam sucks in the ranger, and highway patrol in this area are really really onto 4wds at the moment unfortunately..
@wozz: You may be right. I let myself be guided somewhat by this comment. If they're ok with it in the UK, we may stand a chance here. In WA, anything with wheels is allowed on the road. You wouldn't believe what you see on the road here that isn't getting pulled over.
Anyone know which of the 6 bulbs will fit a toyota corolla?
2003 models (which is about 2002-2006 or something?) use H4
2010 model, toyota says H11 for low beam. powerbulbs say hb4 will fit too. Not sure if I should get it..
I've returned opened stock before. As long as it's carefully repacked they should be okay with it.
I use these and they’re a huge clarity difference from stock H4s. They come with small W5Ws too.