Help Choosing Tyres (235/60/R18)

John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 14:58
Last edited 23/06/2021 - 15:31 by 1 other user

Hi All,

Hoping for some expert advice…need 4 new tyres for the 2WD SUV, I currently have Toyo R45s on from the factory (which have only lasted about 35,000 kms), but wife is complaining about road noise.

Mainly used for Sydney city driving, with the odd trip out of town. Looking for good grip and low road noise…hoping to pay no more than $250 a tyre, the cheaper the better (within reason).

After some research, the Michelin Primacy 3ST's rate highly, but it doesn't look like many places have them anymore, I assume they have been superseded by the 4 variant? Can anyone confirm? Although I cannot find a 4"ST" or a 4 in my size? So the equivalent looks to be the Primacy SUV?

Looking at other tyres, the other ones I was considering were:
1) Continental PremiumContact 6 as they came first here overall, have reasonable reviews and are apparently only $195 from Tempe Tyres
2) Bridgestone Ecopia H/L 001 Tyres, which came third in the above test, however the comments about these on OZB aren't great…$229 @ Jax

Any other suggestions?

TIA
DJK

Poll Options

  • 5
    Bridgestone Ecopia H/L 001
  • 15
    Continental PremiumContact 6
  • 2
    Michelin Primacy 3ST
  • 5
    Michelin Primacy 4 SUV
  • 2
    Other (Please Specify)
Automotive Tyre

Comments

  • Muzeeb on 23/06/2021 - 15:09
    +4

    but wife is complaining about road noise.

    Tyres can make a difference but it is very minimal. Be prepared to be disappointed just like the thousands of Mazda 3 drivers who thought tyres would help.

    Is it a CR-V?

    • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 15:10

      Yep, MY2018.

      • Muzeeb on 23/06/2021 - 15:44
        +3

        Then just get decent branded tyres that are on special. No need to get fancy. It's a CR-V remember.

        • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 15:46

          I am clueless when it comes to tyres, I don't even know what fancy is 😂

        • xylarr on 24/06/2021 - 12:37

          Yeah, for 60 profile tires, you're not really going racing.

    • skillet on 24/06/2021 - 10:53

      It's a Mazda 3 it comes with the advertised zoom zoom feature so there's nothing tyres could do.

      Get the Primacy 4 or Bridgestones. P4 are factory for many vehicles.

  • Bad Company on 23/06/2021 - 15:10
    +1

    Hi John,

    Looks like Primacy 3ST's are replaced by 4, don't quote me on this but someone told me "ST" stands for "silent tune", and all 4 are "silent tune", hence the designation has been dropped.

    I've got some Primacy 4 on my current car, can confirm they're really good.

    Cheers.
    Bad Company

  • bazingaa on 23/06/2021 - 15:12
    -1

    I thought usually Japanese cars come with "Bridgestone" from factory, isn't it ?
    Bridgestone Turanza, Potenza is also good.
    Look for deals in Tyroola etc. I got Continental ComfortContact 6 for $69 each from such a deal but for 185/65R15 88H (I think usually it is around $120-140)

    • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 15:14

      Mine was built in Thailand I think? :p

      Apparently the lower variant CR-V's got Toyo R45s and the higher ones got Michelin Primacy 3STs. From eyeballing a lot of CR-V tyres when I'm out and about, seems to be accurate.

      Bridgestone Turanza, Potenza is also good.

      Don't appear to come in my size?

    • kerfuffle on 23/06/2021 - 15:39

      I have a Toyota from ten years ago, brother recently picked up a Mazda. Both came with Dunlop tyres (I've since replaced mine with Bridgestone)

  • knasty on 23/06/2021 - 15:25
    +1

    I've had Primacy SUVs on my Kia Sorento for ~40,000. Way, way better than the OEM Kumho's and I'd have no hesitation in recommending them. That said I might be swayed to HL001s especially during the 4 for 3 specials.

  • ShortyX on 23/06/2021 - 15:37
    +1

    Voted for Ecopias. We recently put on the Ecopias on our Sorento during the 4 for 3 sale and removed the factory Hankooks. They seem quieter than the Hankooks (maybe a placebo effect) and handling is good, however fuel economy hasn't really changed. I think you'd be happy with either the Continentals or Bridgestones.

    • Peter Enis on 23/06/2021 - 17:19

      Yep, put the Ecopias on a Sportage to replace originals (Nexens I think), no complaints here.

  • Densor on 23/06/2021 - 15:59

    I replaced the Nexens on my Kia Soul last December when Mycar (Kmart) had the 50% off Pirelli sale. 215 55R R17's Pirelli Cinturato P7's. I consider this the best bargain I have ever found on OzBargain.

    The Pirelli's have transformed the ride of the car and are so much quieter than the old Nexens. It rides smoother and grips better, but the reduction in road noise is the most dramatic. The Nexens were from new and had done 55K kms.

    • Muzeeb on 23/06/2021 - 16:23

      That was a great deal. Don't think those tyres come in the correct profile for OP.

  • muckingfuppet on 23/06/2021 - 16:40
    +1

    If I remember correctly when I purchased my tyres last month for my CX-5, the guy said that the side-wall of the primacy SUV was much firmer than the conti premium contact. but the conti premium contact would be marginally quieter and have better grip.

    So… if you nudge kerbs occasionally like a dingdong (like me) then get the Primacy SUV and you might get a little longer use from them

    You're looking at quality tyres. You'd be happy with all of them.

    • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 17:46

      So… if you nudge kerbs occasionally like a dingdong (like me) then get the Primacy SUV and you might get a little longer use from them

      I do actually, live in a very narrow street and have to get as close as possible :(

  • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 16:41

    Looks like I need a new battery also…🤦‍♂️

    • Muzeeb on 23/06/2021 - 17:06

      Not sure if that's a positive or a negative

      • andresampras on 23/06/2021 - 17:09
        +5

        hopefully new battery has both.

        • Waltervp on 24/06/2021 - 08:09

          Just in case get one of each….

  • pformag on 23/06/2021 - 17:25

    Goodyear Forterra. Would recommend.

  • Euphemistic on 23/06/2021 - 17:54
    +1

    No idea, but thank you for providing a good opening post. Enough detail to get a decent recommendation.

  • brad1-8tsi on 23/06/2021 - 19:04
    +1

    Michelin then Continental.

    Also, get a decent 4 wheel alignment (not at Tempe Tyres - try Spinning Wheel or Heasemans) and do a cross-rotation every year (rears to the front, fronts to the diagonally opposite rear)

    • John Kimble on 24/06/2021 - 09:22

      Thanks, googling "Spinning Wheel" yields zero results related to cars unless I'm blind?

      Although I think I found an old forum thread of you talking about it years ago 😂

      The Heasemans place seems like overkill for a Honda CRV? 😳

      • brad1-8tsi on 26/06/2021 - 11:50
        +1

        The old dude at Heasemans taught me a few things when I first started out in the trade. If you want a good alignment they are the pick. Unlike other places they will undo chassis bolts and use the slop in the bolts to get a better outcome. On my Subaru he got another 0.5 degrees negative camber out of a "non-adjustable" suspension. It will cost you double anywhere else but you get what you pay for.

        try "Spinning Wheel Tyres" they are now JAX at Marrickville. Hopefully still the same aligner - a chubby guy around 50.

        https://www.jaxtyres.com.au/tyre-stores/nsw/marrickville?utm…

  • Lexus101 on 23/06/2021 - 19:05
    +1

    For a Honda CRV

    You can't go wrong with Bridgestone's, Conti's or Michelin's. All Excellent!

    Generally speaking, Japanese cars are lighter than German cars and would take well to Bridgestone's (Japanese tuned).

    More often than not, the German cars would come with Conti's or Michelins (usually with stiffer side walls).

    Go with the best price in this case.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2021 - 19:11
    +1

    If you want tyres with high grip, do not buy tires marketed as "economical" or "eco" or "fuel efficient", because they will have shit-all grip, obviously most tyres, even if not, will claim fuel efficiency, but avoid ones that advertise economy as their primary selling point.

    Maybe look at the Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 - currently on sale from the $332 RRP to $219 ea if buying 4 tyres.

    https://www.yokohama.com.au/our-range/tyres/geolandar-a-t-g0… - Official Site

    https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/yokohama/geolandar_at_… - Tyresales AU site - 219$ each if buying 4

    • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 19:24
      +1

      I don't think an AT tyre suits my needs though.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/06/2021 - 19:26

        That's alright, I just recommended them because they're on sale and have good on and off road grip.

        • John Kimble on 23/06/2021 - 19:37

          😂

        • Euphemistic on 23/06/2021 - 19:58

          ATs aren’t designed for on road grip. Might be decent, certainly won’t be good. AT tyres are a compromise, trying to be good at everything.

  • 2jzzzz on 23/06/2021 - 19:27
    -1

    The only readily available tyre that held the 500hp of my RWD euro was Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

    • Lawrencep93 on 24/06/2021 - 08:24

      I got them, still spin up the tyres on my 400HP RWD Euro but it only runs 265's on the rears I think that car needed 275-285's for traction

  • Darayus on 24/06/2021 - 09:48

    What is your speed rating, ensure you buy your Tyres with speed rating above 'V'. All premium car sell with a speed rating of V and that reduce noise. Generally, Tyre retailer offer H and lower mentioning that you are not required to drive at 200km to attain the speed rating but better speed rating reduce tyre noise. Also, Yokohama is a good Tyre.

    • John Kimble on 24/06/2021 - 09:53

      Current ones are 103H.

      Thanks, I didn't know this!

      • Darayus on 25/06/2021 - 10:01

        Yes you have 'H' rating and hence noisy. Upgrade rating on any Tyre brand and you will get a quiet ride.

        Check on google about Tyre rating to understand. The retailer will discourage you if you insist on a higher rating because they don't stock them.

  • Dejaar on 24/06/2021 - 11:33

    I go to '7 Days Tyres and Wheels' in Granville. Worth the drive very affordable.

  • blwnhr on 24/06/2021 - 12:19

    Whenever I need tyres I search for the latest Wheels tyre test and buy the quietest tyre with the shortest wet stopping distance.

    Here is the 2020 SUV tyre test: https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/wheels-tyre-test

    FWIW when I had an SUV I replaced the Bridgestones with the Toyo C100 and was very happy with them. There was a significant drop in tyre noise and they lasted very well.
    https://www.toyotires.com.au/tyres/toyo-proxes-c100-plus-suv…

    Last year we replaced the factory Toyo's on my wife's Mazda 6 with the Hancook H426 based on the outcomes of the Wheels test. Very good tyre and relatively quiet for a reasonable price. If there's an SUV equivalent it'd be ok.
    https://www.hankooktire.com/au/passenger-cars/hankook-optimo…

    EDIT:
    I just noticed above you link to the Wheels test. This also has the lowest noise and winning tyre as the Continental per my metric. Based on that I'd go with them.

  • OzHunterNSW on 24/06/2021 - 14:43
    +1

    Road noise and rough ride are synonymous with your typical tyres.

    You will reduce noise by finding a soft compound tyre… at sacrifice of handling, and longevity.

    A hard compound will last longer, but ride quality will be substantially reduced.

    Ask you tyre specialist for advice

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