No more bypassing to a standard local account (which these b*stards did everything they could to hide):
I am using Microsoft's Surface Book 2 dont see a windows 11 here
Well it hasn’t been released yet
Windows Pro. Problem solved.
Gotta buy the Pro Plus to unlock that ability
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Look-up, "frog in the pot".
Very old saying.
When you lose something of importance, bit by bit, you don't notice.
I downloaded and checked my PC with "WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup", even with hardware TPM 1.2, it says I can't upgrade (i5-2400/16GB/240GB). Probably due to CPU not being 8th gen or later.
You need TPM2.0
Latest is 7th Gen CPUs might get Win 11.
I think MS is probably going to back down a lot when they realise people are not going to upgrade.
i3 i5 i7 minimum you need is 8th gen.
windows 10 is still fine till they support untill 2025
Have had a bit of quick look and they will also require portable devices to have a forward facing camera.
Might be time to move to Linux after all.
I say that with every new Windows release but surely Linux must be usable by now?
I switched one of my laptops and desktops to Linux (Kubuntu) 2 years ago, and loving it; Win11 will probably justify me switching all except 1 of my other computers to Kubuntu. Fairly easy learning curve after the switch with lots on Youtube to help.
Cheers, yeah that's the problem I have with Linux, without youtube I'd be pretty stuffed if I ever had to do something that should be straightforward, like install a driver for e.g. And I've been playing with computers since the Sinclaire ZX80…..
I also have a hard time getting my head around the file structure whereas the windows one is pretty intuitive.
I might setup a VM in Windows 10 and try linux again on that. Anyone know the pros and cons re privacy and security?
like install a driver
like install a driver
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
or, use the GUI ;)
I can do that with step by step instructions but if I need to do it again in 6 months time I wont remember. With Windows all I have to do is DL the driver and double-click it. :)
(Not defending Windows either, I would genuinely like to move to Linux it just needs to be a bit 'easier'. )
@EightImmortals: Yea, but Windows will automatically download and install a dodgy driver without notifying you, too! ;)
@rompastompa: No argument there.
Same thoughts on switching to Linux.
Considering Win10 is going out of support in 2025. By that time the 8th Gen CPUs would be available second hand like the current 4th / 5th Gen CPUs in price so who knows.
With the price of the new macbooks, they are looking better and better.
Isn’t it too early to be smoking drugs?
Just wait until it's actually out and we know for sure what the deal is.
Then you can choose to not upgrade if its a big deal to you, or I'm sure there'll be workarounds as there almost always is.
Realistically though, people will complain about it until some awesome new feature or app/whatever comes out for Windows 11 and then they'll cave anyway. Probably some "free upgrade" bargain posted on here.
I think the opposite. Time to arc up now so they can see the opposition and make a change before release.
Is this accurate? This sounds like the way it works with Windows 10
Dunno haven't tried installing 11.
Install Linux ffs avoid all this new age shit
While I love Linux, this is not a practical solution for anyone who has Windows propriety software they need (for work/hobby/etc).
Sure there are usually alternatives for Linux, there are still too many tools that are just not available yet and as soon as you need to use your work tools at home, you're in for a world of pain.
We need a binary compatibility layer to run windows apps on Linux - yeah there's Wine and it's ilk, but there my success with these has been less than ideal.
What do you need? I've been working as a SWE using Gentoo exclusively for 4 years now.
Setting up a new laptop as we speak with Windows 10 Home in S Mode.
What a pain in the arse… similar gig, to remove S mode you need an MS account as to remove it the app is in the MS store.
If MS doesnt approve the app - your screwed… EG: Thunderbird.
So create an MS account. What's the problem? I don't see it as any different to needing a Google account to use the majority of their services.
This is for a lady with a few mental issues..
She loses the plot when you move her icons around on the desktop.. Anything gets away from normal = feces fight
Don't upgrade it then
Agree, it's not like this isn't already the case with most mobile phones these days (Samsung/Apple)
Get an account. Done?
Don't like it, don't use it.
Just because other big tech companies are doing it doesn't mean it's good
Also doesn't mean its bad?
You as a consumer have a choice.
@tamckinnon: Yeah and I would like to choose to not have a Microsoft account linked to my PC
This is such a slap in the face when I add up all the money I have spent on Windows in the last few years!
Well, I did buy a laptop that had Win8 installed in 2015.
That sucks, I just updated as part of the Windows Insider Program and it updated to Win 11. So far no account needed, but I am using an edu pro account. Some interesting UI changes so far, some of which really feels off to what I'm used to.
same with dev version u don't need a microsoft account, looks like a patched version of windows 10
Needless UI changes is a windows staple at this point.
Wait until beta comes out as of now all are speculations.