BTC VS Chia Pool Proof of Space Hard Drive SSD Mining Questions?

On the face of it, I read some of the green paper and using SSD space to plot and save Proof of Space seems much more environmentally friendly and common sense than the Proof of work for bitcoin. This seems like a common sense progression to me and makes much more sense than Proof of stake. It also seems much more secure than Mining Proof of Work for 51% attack. From what I've gathered, people set aside 100gb+ blocks of hard drive or ssd space and that is plotted and assigned to validate the ledger of tranactions.

There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding what machines are best to mine chia. We also have a lot of experts in the virco chia plotter deal yesterday but nobody actually said what they were running or backed up their argument mich. Some say raspberry pi with Nas, some using desktop with external USB drives, some use dedicated servers which makes the most sense to me as rack servers are easy to store and have the most hard drive space and ram and a lot of cores.

Wondering if anybody can share some knowledge about chia pool?
I have some questions but im embarassed to ask in SSD and Hard drive deals as he guy who posted got downvoted in the SSD deal
How many plots do you need to get any chia?
Also why do you use SSD not hard drive
It looks like hard drive price/gb economy is much better and while slower lifetime will be much longer
Is there a speed difference in mining between SSD and Hard drive?
Do people build Chia rigs and how in Australia?
Is there a compute or CPU/RAM bottleneck?
Do you have specialised rigs or do it at home?
Are you long chia or sell it when you get it?
How much chia have you mined, how long did it take and what rigs are you running?

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    The TL;DR is, until legit pooling happens basically no-one at a home user level would be making any money out of chia

    The overclocker/youtuber DerBauer did a couple of vids about chia and how it works, how it scales with hardware, etc (though only with the official app, not the MadMax plotter IIRC) He used HEDT and server grade stuff with RAID0 NVMe SSDs and after a couple of months made a couple of coins worth an order of magnitude less than the hardware outlay (though he already had most of it for other purposes, and the first Chia video itself made way more money.

    Basically if you have a server farm have at it, otherwise you could mess with it a bit and learn ready for official pooling, but be prepared to have a petabyte of storage at home and acknowledge that burning out SSDs to generate it isn't exactly green, it is a huge ewaste issue. (mind you, server grade SAS spinning rust drives in RAID0 can perform really well apparently, which would make it much greener - likewise second hand enterprise grade SSDs, though they've probably all been snapped up/prices driven sky high by chia farmers already)

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    https://www.amazon.com.au/WD_Black-7200RPM-Cooling-Massive-C...

    These contain enterprise disks, probably your best bet.

    Last year prime they were about $320 or so, so prices have gone up approx. 50%.

    description states Write speed is 48.94 Megabytes Per Second, which is probably true if you use it for xbox external, however i get 200-220 megs as an external.

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    Where do all the storage devices go after they die? Are they recycled into new devices or do they end up in landfills?

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      Hard drives would be recycled but they have a much longer life cycle at 5yrs+ than SSD's and GPU's for mining ETH and others IMO.

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    How many plots do you need to get any chia?
    * chiacalculator.com

    Also why do you use SSD not hard drive
    * ssd is used for plotting (creating the tool to make chia) and hdd is used for farming (making chia). hdd is 5-8 times slower than fast nvme in plotting

    Is there a speed difference in mining between SSD and Hard drive?
    * speed difference between ssd and hdd doesn't matter when you're faming

    Do people build Chia rigs and how in Australia?
    * chia rigs, it's just a normal pc

    Is there a compute or CPU/RAM bottleneck?
    * yes, fast cpu and fast ram is better, i.e. 5950x is about twice as fast as 5600x for plotting

    Do you have specialised rigs or do it at home?
    * external hdd is the easiest way to get a small scale farm at home

    Are you long chia or sell it when you get it?
    * rightaway, chia is a scam lol

    How much chia have you mined, how long did it take and what rigs are you running?
    * 30+, i started in April with about 500Tb

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      Thanks for the info, what makes chia a scam and BTC and DOGE not?

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        its price is too high for where it is in development, the expected price was 20USD/xch at launch

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          The hype is massive for such a small project it makes sense