Cabinetmaker Rangehood Install - Who Do I Need to Get?

Fergy1987 on 07/09/2021 - 11:30

So I just had a new gas stove installed but was advised by the installer that the rangehood is too low from the stove. Manufacturer suggests 600mm to the rangehood.

So is this as simple as getting a cabinetmaker to just sort out the cabinet for the rangehood to go back in?

The rangehood is one of those slide out Westinghouse ones with no ducting, just all goes into the filters with a hole at the top of the cabinet and plugs into a power point

Would the cabinetmaker install the rangehood into the new cabinetry? Surely I dont need to get an electrical guy to put the rangehood into the cabinet since there is no hardwiring?

Can anyone confirm this for me

Thanks

Home & Garden Rangehood

Comments

  • coblos on 07/09/2021 - 11:47
    +3

    Just a cabinetmaker unless the power point needs to be moved, but a good experienced installer would also move the power point.

    • JimB on 07/09/2021 - 13:57

      Why would you move the GPO if it's not required to be moved?

      • coblos on 07/09/2021 - 14:17

        If the GPO is fixed inside the cabinet you would need to remove it before removing the cabinet.

        • JimB on 07/09/2021 - 14:25
          -1

          GPOs usually above the rangehoods off centre on the carcass of the cabinets.

          The cabinet maker would not remove the back carcass to modify the lower section of the cabinets or the doors to move the rangehood up.

    • Rangehood Guy on 09/09/2021 - 18:49
      +1

      It is the electricians job to put a power outlet in the cupboard to plug the rangehood into.
      It is the cabinet makers job to make the cabinet to take the rangehood.
      It is the rangehood installers job to install the rangehood and vent it to the outside of the building. Simples.
      Please see post at the bottom of the page for heights above cooktop.

  • ESEMCE on 07/09/2021 - 12:38

    How high is the rangehood from the stove at the moment?
    And was it not the same height previously?

    • Fergy1987 on 07/09/2021 - 12:41

      Rangehood was installed at 580mm apparently - and the new stove is a little bit taller so not within the regs

      So will need the cabinet made smaller and then the rangehood re-installed. Although I've just realised thats going to completely eff up the door size of the cupboard above………and the splashback. Getting real expensive all of a sudden

      • Switchblade88 on 07/09/2021 - 12:48
        +3

        It's 20mm.

        That is not going to make any appreciable difference, and certainly not a mandatory distance in any form of building code.

        If it's installed and working, don't stress over it.

        • Muzeeb on 07/09/2021 - 12:52
          +1

          and certainly not a mandatory distance in any form of building code.

          Are you sure?

          For a gas cooktop in VIC I'm pretty sure it's a regulated 600mm (off the top of my head) but then again maybe it's just an AS.

          • Switchblade88 on 07/09/2021 - 13:07

            @Muzeeb: I'll rescind my statement if you have an ABCB regulation or similar stating otherwise, but I couldn't find anything specific…

            However, being within 3% seems to be a reasonable tolerance where the item is a replacement (i.e. not supplied by a builder & subject to Standards & Tolerances)

            • Muzeeb on 07/09/2021 - 13:12

              @Switchblade88: Had a quick google it's just an AS and manufacturer standard.

        • Fergy1987 on 07/09/2021 - 13:55
          +1

          I think I'm more just worried if say it went up in flames, insurance would be like "not the standard height! NO MONEY!"

          • Switchblade88 on 07/09/2021 - 14:08
            +1

            @Fergy1987: It was already noncompliant, you said so yourself. So your situation (and risk) hasn't changed.

            Let me put it this way - if the installer didn't put your clearance in writing, and they didn't stop work until the problem was resolved, and they likely didn't notify their employer in writing that the job was noncompliant. So both you and them have plausible deniability in regards to the existing clearances already being perfectly adequate. If you ever get asked, then you can reasonably say 'I thought everything was fine'. You aren't qualified to judge otherwise.

            If an insurance assessor walks in on a kitchen fire, they're not going to measure rangehood clearances unless it's obviously wrong e.g. 400mm or less where it's a bodge-job by a DIY handyman. You'd have difficulty seeing your stovetop if it was that low!

            • NotAnExpert4 on 08/09/2021 - 09:15

              @Switchblade88: Well they don't have plausible deniability now that they've gone and slapped it on ozbargain

        • mlbrooke on 08/09/2021 - 09:43

          I would be a little cautious, not about the 20mm but the fact that it is a gas stove which is easier to flare up than an electric and a small flare up could ignite the grease in the range hood causing a fire.

          My DIY background would suggest having a think about other ways to resolve the issue - for me like when my wife comes and say "have you thought about doing it this way" lol and it solves the issue.

          For example if the range hood is built in then it is relatively easy to remove the header board it is attached to and mount one 20 mm further up, you may need a couple of angle brackets but these will never be seen. The cupboard doors can be cut down and a new melamine strip applied (or simply a paint), the splashback as well (because it is only 20 mm) could have a row of tiles at the top or the $100 for a new piece of Stainless. Personally I would use a row of small tiles, again it will not be seen and it will still look good - though I am an Ozbarginer lol

      • Muzeeb on 07/09/2021 - 12:49

        Getting real expensive all of a sudden

        Return new oven.

        Obtain refund.

        Reinstall old oven.

        Deep breath.

        Phewww. That was close.

  • JimB on 07/09/2021 - 14:02
    +1

    When you say installer, do you mean qualified plumber?

    They should know the rules.

    If it was a plumber it should be ok as is. 580 vs 600mm isn't going to be the end of the world.

    It's also a grey area, if it was a new house, it wouldn't meet the standard, but if it's a replacement, then perhaps the old rules apply.

    The other thing too, is if was mandatory it was >600mm, then the plumber should not have installed it until the rangehood was moved first.

    In any case, if it's possible to install a ducted rangehood, I'd replace the rangehood (and move it up at the same time).

    • Fergy1987 on 07/09/2021 - 14:12

      Yeah the installer ripped the rangehood out to install the stovetop - so its just on the floor at the moment haha.

      Might be worth just putting a whole new ducted rangehood in - the tiny amount of cupboard space literally holds beer coolers……so I wont be missing much

      • JimB on 07/09/2021 - 14:28
        +2

        OK lol

        Yeah, if he ripped it off, then it's compliant from a gas cooktop point of view.

        You could be cheeky and just reinstall the old rangehood. but I'd definitely be installing a new rangehood that is ducted outside.

  • bdl on 07/09/2021 - 14:19
    +1

    OP, might be worth ducting the rangehood if you going to go the trouble of moving it. Some pullout rangehoods can be reconfigured to vent externally (instead of recirculating like you are now) and ducting kits are relatively inexpensive (see: https://www.bunnings.com.au/pacific-air-125-150mm-flexible-w…)

    Not sure if you're in an apartment or house or what kind of roof/ceiling is above, but may be worth considering. You could even get everything ready for a ducted hood and replace the hood when you have the time/resources/money/etc

  • holdenmg on 07/09/2021 - 14:46

    Damn, first Face Masks, now Kitchen Police. lol

    • Switchblade88 on 07/09/2021 - 15:26
      +1

      How dare you talk about your mother like that!!

  • netjock on 07/09/2021 - 16:39

    20mm.

    Take out the cabinet. Where the horizontal board the rangehood mounts onto jigsaw cut the vertical board by 20mm then screw the horizontal board back in + mount the ranghood.

    Sounds easy.

  • DingoBlue on 07/09/2021 - 16:49
    +4

    Option 1. Do it yourself and regret that a tradesman probably would have done a better job.

    Option 2. Get a tradesman to do it and regret that you probably would have done a better job.

  • panorama on 08/09/2021 - 08:15
    -1

    Does no one these days have any type of handyman skills…………geesus an easy fix and we have a mountain made out of a molehill…..Dare I suggest you peruse you tube for your handyman skills these days…

    • Fergy1987 on 08/09/2021 - 08:28
      -1

      Feel free to come around and flex your handyman skills and do the job for me. I'll be very impressed.

  • OzHunterNSW on 09/09/2021 - 16:56

    You know… just contact any range hood seller and ask them for advice

  • Rangehood Guy on 09/09/2021 - 18:41
    +1

    Here's the gig.
    The rule in Victoria is simple. Above an electric or induction cooktop, the distance to the bottom of the rangehood is 600mm minimum.
    The minimum distance from the top of the cooking hobs to the bottom of the rangehood on a gas cooktop is 650mm.
    This is a state regulation which I believe is on the Energy Safe Victoria website.
    Insurance has been mentioned and as we all love to evade the insurance aspect, consider this. If there is a fire, the insurance man will come knocking. When he does, you better make sure that everything is in order.

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