Why Are Modern Toilets So Bad?

I’m about to Reno my home and looking for a new toilet. My current toilet is modern and water efficient and really puts the crap in thomas crapper.

It stains easily and doesn’t do it’s one job: flush the poop!

I thought it was just mine but visited a family friend recently and when I went to their bathroom I was met with a floater that fought against their flush.

Can anyone recommend a good toilet that actually functions as it should?

Thank you

Comments

    • Any particular model you can recommend?

  • Modern toilets pay too much attention to water saving, but you save too much water that things don't flush down well and then you end up cleaning it all which isn't so environmental friendly with chemicals.

    • +1

      There are some interesting comments from plumbing experts in this paper on water saving toilets
      https://www.waterrating.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-01/w…

      If you demand 3+ toilets in a house you need to use them! With water saving toilets at the end of the line, the flush won't get all the toilet paper to your main line. If you don't use the dunny again for a week, the toilet paper can become dried in the branch line and a more permanent obstruction.

      Water saving toilets can be great - but they need to both clear the bowl and clear the sewer line. Ideally there will be a more regularly used kitchen sink or something upstream to push the paper and logs along.

      Sydney Water is also having some issues with the increasing percentage of solids compared to liquids. They can continue to adapt, but can require engineering changes. An example is sending a flush of stormwater down the sewer to help keep things moving.

    • Could try plunger instead of chemicals?

  • I just shit in a hole now.

  • +2

    Plenty of brand new toilets are perfectly fine.
    It's just that some aren't, they haven't been engineered just made by a designer who thinks it looks stylish. All form no function.

    Then there is the market for toilets everyone knows are bad, but they are a modern shape for $50 bulk so developers fill towers and kit homes with them.
    Nobody does a test poo before purchase.

    • +1

      Tried to in bunnings, they werent impressed…

  • +2

    Yeah. I thought it was just me. Probably not something that comes up at BBQ yarns. We bought new brassco a few years back and it requires the brush on every excursion. It's not us, it's the clowns that design and make them without the proper R&D. I think the glazes they use are also to to blame. Cheaper ones not as smooth or shiny for sliding the brown all the way down. There should be a rating alright, but not for water being used, for the clean flush.

  • When I was in the US, I was often surprised by the massive suction of their public toilets when flushing. It will definitely leave nothing behind.

    • Those things scare me

    • pressure-assisted cisterns can be had here too.

  • The only way to compare is to use your toilet. If the poop doesn't flush, carefully remove it are relocate it maintaining the hydration and structural integrity of the poop.(like moving a teensie weensie little whale)

    Then try flush it down an older style toilet.

    Otherwise it is all just conjecture.

    • I don’t exclusively poop in one toilet :-) the science has been done

      • The variability between poops is not acceptable. Do you work for the IPCC? With your errors in the scientific method it seems so.

  • +1

    I've got all my cisterns from Geberit in my house along with Kohler bowls. If you spend the money you wont have concerns.

  • You could always go to your local tip and find an old one with the big flush.

    Gurney it, new seat, new seals, new buttons and you're set.

    No more brown lipstick smudges…

    • I don’t even know how to screw on a lightbulb, I’m afraid.

      • +1

        Articles like this help you to know the difference in toilets to pick the right one.

        https://renovatingforprofit.com.au/blog/toilet-mistakes-you-…

        If you DIY, there are hundreds of YouTube videos. Example to change a seat, bunnings doesn't have all the videos you need but this one is alright. https://youtu.be/6HxsbGwRk9I

        I renovated my bathroom and kept the old toilet for your exact reasons above, gave it a freshen up with a new seat, new external hose and new buttons and re-installed it myself (cost about $80 vs $300 for a new one that would be a skid pan every morningafter coffee).

        Only thing I couldn't find in a good video was the siliconing underneath but a plumber told me how to do it. Put 3-4 of the green wall plugs you use in bricks underneath the toilet to lift it off the floor. Use a level and wiggle toilet as needed make sure it's level. Pump alot of silicone under the toilet, should be as thick as the toilet itself plus a touch more. Spray it with soapy water and wipe away the excess silicone gently so it's a smooth finish. Let it set 24-48hrs. When set, knock out the green plugs and fill those gaps with silicone too. 24-48 hrs should stop smelling sewerage, if you still smell it, might have a gap somewhere so find and fill with silicone.

  • +1

    I always wonder why they don't do teflon coated bowls…

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