Anyone Came with Working Holiday Visa and Ended to Be a Permanent Resident?

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  raptormesh on 07/11/2021 - 16:44

  +1

  You need to check the various pathways to PR. WHV doesn't necessarily translate to one.

  Also depending on the work, you may not get paid much at all.

  The people I know who has done it went the WHV > Student > Job sponsored visa, or more commonly WHV > Spouse visa. Both have pros and cons and happy endings not guaranteed.

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    freefall101 on 08/11/2021 - 17:21

    I learned this the hard way, on a WHV in Canada, applied for PR and a bridging visa, bridging visa was denied because there is no pathway between the two.

    So my options were leave and wait for PR, or get another WHV which would cancel my PR application. So PR was cancelled, I lost my money on it, plus my previous WHV ran out before the new one was processed. I had to leave my job and urgently get a tourist visa just to stay then do a trip out of the country to renew the WHV. Then come back and ask for my job back (which hooray, I got).

    Freaking nightmare. I had it planned out better for my second time around but me (and my spouse) wound up moving back to Australia so I never bothered.

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  ozhunter on 07/11/2021 - 16:54

  +6

  My question is what is the reason for doing this (instead of stay at home-country and get a real job) especially in this terrible Covid time with so many unknowns and snap Lockdowns.

  Because they see a much better future in Australia

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    crentist on 07/11/2021 - 17:39

    Or they simply want to do something a bit more fun than stay home all their lives

    WH visas are aimed at young people from good economies who are more likely to be motivated by adventure than migration

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      ozhunter on 07/11/2021 - 18:00

      Yea, that could be a reason.

      I had a casual job in a factory when I was finishing school and worked with many people on working or student visas. End goal for like 90% of them was to stay in Australia. They didn't care if they(or they spouse) had to study for few years, as long as they could stay here.

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        crentist on 07/11/2021 - 18:06

        +1

        That's student visa though. Different thing, different visa pathway.
        I'll bet those 90% didn't come from countries that could have got a Working Holiday visa, because their motivation for migration also happens to make them ineligible for WH

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          ozhunter on 07/11/2021 - 18:13

          @crentist: Most were student visas with the intention of staying here but there were definitely some on working visas. Some started on working visas. I'd say half of them didn't plan on staying here but after see how the life is here, they wanted to stay.

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            crentist on 07/11/2021 - 18:34

            @ozhunter: Exactly. Some people will always decide to stay if they enjoy it, but the "much better future" is less of a motivator for WH.
            Especially when it seems to include NOT getting a "real job".

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              ozhunter on 07/11/2021 - 21:44

              @crentist:

              Some people will always decide to stay if they enjoy it, but the "much better future" is less of a motivator for WH.

              Didn't seem like that at all at my old workplace. Many of those that came on a WHV wanted to stay here even though they couldn't.

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  SBOB on 07/11/2021 - 17:37

  +3

  My question is what is the reason for doing this (instead of stay at home-country and get a real job) especially in this terrible Covid time with so many unknowns and snap Lockdowns

  because despite the joys of covid and lockdowns, you obviously don't understand how lucky you are to live in this country compared to many other alternatives around the world.

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  Hansi on 07/11/2021 - 18:03

  +1

  I have come across quite a few people that did WHV -> 457 -> PR earlier in the decade. Not sure how easy this pathway is now, but I think skilled migrant visas are harder to come by nowadays.

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  Drakesy on 07/11/2021 - 18:08

  From the past decade's immigration numbers? yes.
  Without it our economy would've barely grown while our population fell.

  Will we be reverting to this in the future? Time will tell and it depends on the government.
  A certain political party has an import clause on the economy rather than organically grow our internal one, much to the demise of the rest of Australia.

  Having said that i have had friends go through uni and apply for sponsored positions/get PR through the points system. However this is now much harder to do. i believe working holiday rates far below that of a qualified sponsored position so would be very/extremely hard to convert to PR.

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  crentist on 07/11/2021 - 18:09

  +3

  My question is what is the reason for doing this (instead of stay at home-country and get a real job) especially in this terrible Covid time with so many unknowns and snap Lockdowns

  For fun? Working holiday visas have always been for people to go enjoy a new place, hence the "holiday" part.
  Maybe they have more desire for adventure than you, and less anxiety about delaying the first step of their career. Better they do it while they are young and less established, it only gets harder to do this later in life.

  Plus there's also nothing stopping them from getting a "real job" on a WH. I found job opportunities overseas wayyy better in my field, while on WH.

  And I don't get why all the answers are about Australia quality of life being a big motivator. Plenty of Aussies go overseas on WH too. Which makes sense, if you look at the countries that are eligible?
  These are pretty much all great places to stay if you live there, or visit if you don't

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  KaTst3R on 07/11/2021 - 20:08

  The easiest route currently is partner visa. The traditional routes like skilled migrant is way too hard now.

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  dcuksuop on 07/11/2021 - 20:11

  +1

  I came from the States on a WHV, then stayed with a skilled migrant visa, now I'm a citizen.

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  onetwothreefour on 07/11/2021 - 21:15

  I first came here on a WHV in 2004, I then left for a while and decided I wanted to come back so got a student visa, my wife studied while I found a job to sponsor me. I'm now a citizen after getting PR in 2011.

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  MissKitten1 on 08/11/2021 - 08:23

  My friends husband came on WHV. They met and ended up getting married and he got his PR one or two years later.

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  blackstarzes on 08/11/2021 - 08:35

  +1

  I see a few of good reasons why people would do the WHV first:

  • time that it takes for a skilled PR visa (189/190) to come through (P75 is 17 months): if you have a qualifying passport and want to move to Australia quickly, WHV is a good option to get here quickly (P75 is 3 months) and can be extended for another 12 months if PR is still not granted by then.
  • cost: skilled PR is $4k just for the visa (not including skills assessments, English tests etc) while WHV is $500. For people working in countries that don’t have the highest wages, this can be a good option to earn AUD and pay for the visa here.
  • try before you buy: some people may not be sure whether the Australian way of life is for them. Let’s face it: it’s far away from pretty much everywhere, and some people can’t handle being so far away from their family.

  I’ve seen people do this working in professional services when the wait times for skilled PR weren’t quite as lengthy.

  Edit: it should be noted that you still need to qualify for the points-based skilled PR using this route. Positive is that if you get >1y experience in your ANZSCO code here, it holds weight in the points that you get.

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  Pumpkin_rrr on 08/11/2021 - 08:51

  Woke-up to see so many nice responses, thank you thank you! So many positive vides!
  I'll read itbslowly.
  Go Australia!

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  OzHunterNSW on 08/11/2021 - 09:46

  What is a "real" job? Did they graduate, or not?
  Many people leave their country to take up position in a foreign land.
  How do you think Australian immigration works?