They are matching the JB Hifi drop in price.
Remember cashback ends today 2/1/2022!
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643 ppi !!!! Dang. That's awesome.
Impressive coming soon eh, the 1" image sensor finally hits mobile cameras. Now photo quality might be similar to a real camera like the RX100!!!
RX100 is still better than a phone camera for low light conditions. Also during the day time if you're a pixel peeper.
24-200 mm zoom
Which phone camera does this?
1″ sensor
Which phone camera has this?
The phone doesn't use the whole 1" sensor, the camera does.
@poppingtags: My bad then too much marketing rubbish for someone who doesn't know about cameras. Seen that one and a sharp one claiming 1 inch didn't realise was just a misinterpretation
The first smartphone with a 1.0-inch type sensor (and phase-detect autofocus) actually isn't. The fact that Sony is marketing it as such is what soured our experience
From the review
"Many" phones have a 1 inch sensor? Perhaps 1 or 2 phones do. That's not "many".
@prhino: The problem is that the lens needs to be wide enough that the light coming in can cover the whole sensor - it's that basic. In a phone there isn't much room between lens and sensor, which makes it even more challenging.
Biggest problem with Phone cameras is that the advertised "best sensor" is only for the stock zoom levels meaning that as soon as you activate the zoom past 2x or so, it changes to the other zoom lens with a much lower grade sensor (or using some hybrid digital+Optical zooms). This is the same even with the telescopic lens of all models where the sensor is much poorer quality.
What they need is a proper adjustable magnification lens against only a single big capacity sensor as opposed to putting 5 different lens on the back of the phone. That is the area where phones like this still excel over a mobile.
Sharp Aquos R6
If photo quality is important, then you'd want a DSLR camera and this Sony can get DSLR quality in a very small form factor.
I have the mk iv and would use it over my Samsung Note 10 or S20 FE phones when wanting a photo. However, the phones naturally have better convenience as point and shoot cameras, and are with you all the time where the sony is a planned occasion.
My wife never understood the need for me to spend additionall money on a camera above that already spent on my phone. But she now sees the quality difference in photos of our kids between the ones taken on phone vs DSLR.
I do agree but I think photographing kids is the perfect example of where smarrphones have really changed photography. Having your camera to hand in every moment possible was impossible before smartphones. Now you camera is always near you and really to shoot at a double tap of the power button (for Samsung anyway). I made a photo book of our year with 360 of my best photos from the year and most would never have been captured prior to the smartphone. So I think kids photography is a perfect example of smartphones being better.
I've had a number of SLRs down the years and recently sold my Fujifilm X-T20 with three lenses because it was never there when I needed it.
Convenient, yes
Very much agree about the convenience of having smart phone and able to capture memories.
I still always default to my smart phone to capture photos.
As I mentioned, though, the difference was in the quality (colour, depth, etc). DSLR > smartphone. This Sony allows me to get that quality without the bulky equipment.
Each to their own - have a great weekend.
C0mbat, can I ask please where you got the photo book from and if you're happy with it? I want to make one but am struggling to find a place that is actually well reviewed that provides a quality product.
Assuming you mean photo book and not just photo album?
@legs: I've been relatively happy with Milk Books.
Got two albums done with them, coincidentally filled with holiday pictures taken with a trusty RX100 MK3.
Great camera, still would used it over a phone for holidays.
@legs: No worries.
Just add my specific comments:
Books very nice
Website easy to use
Print quality is adequate/good but not amazing. We only got a a5 size book, so photos are not big at all.
Overall quality for the print / book is '7/10. From memory was quite expensive.
Out of stock.
Then buy it from JB. The original source of the discount.
It would appear that way
JB is $1699
On the description page it says:-
Skill level Novice
Yep. In full auto mode a novice could use this with great results.
When tweaking the settings (an an enthusiast amateur) the results can be awesome.
I had an RX100 V for a while. Truely awesome camera for its size. Think of it as a mirror less DSLR (without interchangeable lens) in the body of a point and shoot. The f/1.8 (I think 2.8 now on later ones) was awesome to get some actual really really good photos and videos with amazing depth of field.
When you actually pull a phone image up on a screen you can tell it’s a phone image. You can’t beat the rx100 for having in your pocket while out and about, travel, and even vlogging.
Great camera!
Wouldn't compare a 1 inch cos it's still smaller than a mirrorless or APS-C sensor. I sold my Canon G7x mk ii even though it has a 1 inch sensor, cos in low light even with a F 1.8 aperture, it didn't get me good enough results. Moved to Olympus mirrorless.
In saying this, definitely a decent option for travel and vlogging and all that
Not sure why they went with longer zoom at the expense of aperture. People buying this are obviously going for the IQ, images at the long end of that lens is mediocre at best. I would rather get the original 24-70mm lens, so a deal on Mark V is better.
Edit: I had the Mark III, a phenomenal pocket camera, and a great complement to DSLR. Sold it after getting into M43, but it never matched the portability.
Good price
2018 camera? feels old
Sony A7R4 owner (A7R3 for years), and owner of several of the RX100 models over the years. Save your money and just upgrade to the latest phone if you haven't done that already. The processing power in phones these day to do computational photography is FAR higher than what these little point & shoots have, and that makes a massive difference. Yes the RX100 is pretty much the peak of P&S cameras, and they can take great photos, but so can the latest iPhone. I speak from many years experience using of all of these cameras a LOT.
When I am on holidays in beautiful destinations (NZ, Japan, Italy, Germany just in 2019 alone) I will carry my A7R4 with a 35mm F1.4 GM everywhere, and I have produced some incredible photos, but for my daily life, my iPhone 13 is with me all day every day, and the RX100 just is not.
35mm F1.4 GM
Amazing glass at 1.4
It really is, especially considering its tiny size. I have a bunch of other lenses, but 90% of my shots are with this little 35mm.
Have any comparison images between the 13 and Rx?
Not directly, like for like, similarly processed. But in general use, I just found that I had to do extensive processing in Lightroom to get the R100 images looking like the idiot proof, just hit the shutter button shots out of the iPhone. Yes, I "could" get better photos out of the R100, just not all of the time, most of the time the iPhone photos, even on a large screen were immediately better if you are not pixel peeping.
The big Ar74/3 photos are a considerable jump up, especially on a large monitor, and have FAR more latitude for post processing, but there have been plenty of occasions where the iPhone took a better shot (especially large panos) because it did not make the mistakes I did in either focus/exposure/ISO or aperture (just ask me about my 6400ISO shots at midday in Aitutaki, because I was shooting in low light the night before and forgot to reset the ISO). I find now if I have an incredible photo opportunity in front of me I get the A7R4 photo just right, but then take an iPhone photo as backup (not kidding).
Gee, that was an awesome price. I would have snapped that up if I was quicker!
I was wondering surely they lose money selling at that price.
JB Hifi did that price for around a week, but now the price has doubled!
Never got the memo about phone cameras….