New Tyres - 2007 Honda Accord Euro

ribze1 on 01/02/2022 - 22:57

Hi everyone,

I currently have Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/45R17 91Y tyres on my 2007 Honda Accord Euro. I've noticed a sidewall bulge on one of my tyres so it will need to be replaced, tread looks ok but they are bang on 50,000kms and 5 years old now (i found the receipt). At present we'd probably do 5 - 10,000kms per year.

My issue is i really like these tyres in terms of performance and noise, but this is the second time i've had to replace a tyre due to a sidewall bulge which is frustrating. I've been driving for 15 years and it didn't happen on my old car.

My choices:

  • Buy 4 new tyres - but do i gamble with the P7s again, or go for something else. Anyone have any recommendations based on my car and use?
  • Replace this tyre, but will mean i have 2 tyres with the same wear and 2 with completely different wear. I wonder what the impact of this would be on safety and reliability?

I wanted to ask here first as i'm not trusting of the advice i'd receive at a tyre shop, i'm sure they'll just say replace the lot.

Cheers,

ribze1

Automotive Car Honda Tyre

Comments

  • bobbified on 01/02/2022 - 23:05
    +1

    but this is the second time i've had to replace a tyre due to a sidewall bulge which is frustrating

    How's your parking skills? Do you scrape the tyre along the footpath when you park?

    tread looks ok but they are bang on 50,000kms and 5 years old now

    It's recommended to replace all your car tyres after 5-6 years anyway, regardless of the amount of tread left, because the rubber starts to harden and crack after that.

    • ribze1 on 01/02/2022 - 23:11

      Pretty good imo, and it's parked in a garage overnight.

      Ah thank you for the comment on the age.

      • AndyC1 on 02/02/2022 - 07:42
        +2

        Then exactly why did the type suffer sidewall bulge?

        • Muzeeb on 02/02/2022 - 09:04

          Pretty good

          I've seen pretty good drivers. It's the very good and really good drivers that avoid tyre bulge incidents.

        • ribze1 on 02/02/2022 - 12:10

          Upon reflection i think bobbified is right. The bulge is on the passenger rear tyre so logically it makes sense that hitting a gutter was the cause.

          • AndyC1 on 02/02/2022 - 12:52

            @ribze1: Side wall issues I have had have been cause by rubbing/hitting or scraping the wheel on roundabout where the concrete is falling apart or something else that has rubbed against the side of the tyre.

            This is why I asked as side wall's do not get punctures due to nails on the road normally.

  • Hybroid on 01/02/2022 - 23:09
    +1

    I would be amazed if you can actually discern a real world "performance" difference between similar spec tyres on a 15 year old Honda Accord. Definitely replace all 4, maybe at one of the Bob Jane buy 4 for 3 deals and don't fuss over what brand they are, just the size and spec.

  • nephilim on 01/02/2022 - 23:14

    In that size and spec (honda and suzuki using same wheels), pretty sure Dunlop is best value, bob jane do 3 for 4 often
    120-130 x 3

  • nick90 on 01/02/2022 - 23:14

    I would look at just replacing the two and leaving the other two remaining Pirelli on the back of the vehicle. If they have got good tread on them, it shouldn't affect the handling if they're on the same axle. However, if they're starting to get bald replace them.

    Here a guide on the NRMA website to help you decide or you can just speak to your mechanic and I'm sure they would be more than happy to give you honest advise (a tyre shop will almost give you a BS answer)

    https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-driving/car-servicing/res…

    In terms of tyres for 225 45 17. I will just go for something like these if you need the two
    https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/kumho/ecsta_pa51/225-4…

    Or these if you need the four
    https://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/au/bridgestone/potenza/…

    Both of these tyres are very good value for the money and will be great for your needs if you choose to go either route

  • Kranbone on 01/02/2022 - 23:41

    If you don't drive the car hard and value comfort, maybe consider a Turanza from Bridgestone.

    • ribze1 on 02/02/2022 - 12:11

      This would be the case, i was thinking Potenza's wouldn't be a good fit despite the better price point at present.

      • donnot on 02/02/2022 - 15:58

        Performance is good (in the dry - average in the wet), but they are quite loud in comparison to a standard/comfort tyre like the Turanza’s.

    • nick90 on 02/02/2022 - 14:54

      Turanza are good as well. I suggested Potenza, mainly due to the deal that present.

      • ribze1 on 02/02/2022 - 20:25

        I've booked in to get the Turanzas on Saturday, $177/ square is decent.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/02/2022 - 20:42

          @ribze1

          The Turanza isn't as great in the wet just FYI , they excel primarily in the dry.

          Obviously by all measures you should be "taking more care in the wet" regardless but just letting you know that if you try to push the tyre too much they will easily slip/lose traction in the wet.

          I have only limited experience with the Goodyear Assurance Triplemax 2 but it appears it fares better overall moreso in the wet so far by comparison

          Either tyre are NOT sports tyres so both will only "go so far" even in the dry just as an FYI.

          • Kranbone on 03/02/2022 - 11:34

            @[Deactivated]: My Turanza is quite good in the wet. It's the Serenity Plus. I believe the deep channels are one of the primary reasons.

            • ribze1 on 04/02/2022 - 09:03
              +1

              @Kranbone: It's the serenity plus i am getting, good to hear.

  • USER DC on 02/02/2022 - 01:44

    I found tyroola to be pretty cheap for my 195 65 R 15, and 175 55 R14's (during sale and combined with SB, bonuses) My Winrun 330/380 been alrightish so far

    https://www.tyroola.com.au/tyre/225-45-r17/nsw/?s=price&d=as…

    You can try any (generally these tyroola tyres people are cheapest compared to other places)

    Fitting in the sydney is about $100 for 4 tyres

    You can use 2 old tyres with similar wear etc (put those old ones on non drive wheels i.e. if Front wheel drive, put old ones at rear wheels, and new ones at front wheels).

    Buldges in tyres dont happen by themselves. Main reason behind them is either Potholes, or not having taken care of tyres (e.g. no filled to proper pressure, and then hit curb etc).
    The same situation happened on my mum's car She taken absolutely no care of her car (other than fueling up the gas tank). Never inflates her car tyres etc. did buy her new Winrun 195 65 R15's 4 set, asked her she better take care of those, she really never cares enough of them.

    Also My advice to you is use lower diameter wheels (or rims), as they have bigger side length and hence more durable against buldges/potholes etc. suggest watch this

    • Euphemistic on 02/02/2022 - 05:32
      +1

      You can use 2 old tyres with similar wear etc (put those old ones on non drive wheels i.e. if Front wheel drive, put old ones at rear wheels, and new ones at front wheels).

      Disagree. New tyres to steering. Front tyres also do majority of the braking so it’s important to have the better tyres on the front.

      • USER DC on 02/02/2022 - 08:27
        +1

        I think you need to read properly before typing stuff

        • Euphemistic on 02/02/2022 - 08:50

          To make it clear you should have said put the old ones on the back, not on the non-drive wheels.

          It’s not about drive, it’s about braking and steering.

          • USER DC on 02/02/2022 - 08:56
            -1

            @Euphemistic: Not all cars are front wheel drive.

            So that's why i said non drive wheels.

            Some cars are rear wheel drive too, ( and some All wheel drive)

            And yes it is about drive wheels.

            • Euphemistic on 02/02/2022 - 09:20

              @USER DC: Last time I got two tyres for my RWD vehicle the tyre guy said to put the new ones on the front - for steering and braking.

              Full time AWD you should be getting four tyres to ensure there is no excessive wear on the centre diff.

      • Kranbone on 05/02/2022 - 12:29

        You're right about the front tyres doing the majority of breaking and all the steering, but there's a reason why tyre manufacturers recommend you put the new tyres on the back.

        https://www.uniroyal-tyres.com/car/tyre-guide/tyre-knowledge…
        "Remember to rotate the tyres when changing them.
        The better and new tyres go to the back, not to the front.
        Take note of the direction of the tyres."

        https://www.michelin.com.au/auto/faq-cars#:~:text=Tyre%20Rep….
        Michelin recommends replacing all four tyres at the same time, however if replacing only two new tyres, be sure that the new tyres are the same size and tyre type as the current tyres and that the dealer always installs the new tyres on the rear axle of the vehicle

        This video will explain why.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSz7cm6MwH0

  • [Deactivated] on 02/02/2022 - 02:08
    +1

    The most common reason of bulge occurrence is considered to be hitting potholes or a Kerb. The most vulnerable to the occurrence of a bulge are poorly inflated tyres.

    Goodyear Assurance Triplemax 2 (Buy 3 get 1 free) = $567 , Touring tyre so high milage to be expected , good comfort , low road noise.

    Bridgestone Turanza T001 Serenity Plus ($100 cashback when you buy 4) $202 each at Bridgestone stores , x4 is $708 after cashback , Touring tyre with 50,000km guarantee if you rotate regularly through the free bridgestone tyre program (free rotations at set intervals and tyre checks)

    You can stick with you're P7 Cinturato's if you want , currently $175 each with no further discount/promotion at the moment so a set of 4 will run you $700

    Suggest to replace all 4 and just drive more carefully with higher tyre pressures then you usually do and check them more regularly (+3 PSI over what it says on your door tyre placard or car manual is perfectly safe and makes little difference in terms of cabin comfort but extends the life of your tyres marginally)

    • ribze1 on 02/02/2022 - 12:17

      Legend, thank you!

      I normally set psi at 36 but don't monitor it like i should, when i pump it up generally it's sitting at 30-31.

  • JimB on 02/02/2022 - 10:09

    If you like your current tyres and the 2 of your existing tyres are over 50%, stick the old tyres at the back and get 2 new identical tyres.

    If they are less than 50%, cut your losses and get 4 new tyres. Newer designed tyres would be better. I'm a fan of the Bridgestone Turanza as a touring everyday tyre.

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