Electric Vehicle Charging

How do you charge your electric vehicle? And how much did it cost to have your charging station installed?

I’m looking at a mg excite if that makes any difference.

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  • +2

    An adapter cable that plugs into the wall socket?

    https://evse.com.au/product-category/portable-charging/

    Check for compatibility yourself

  • +1

    Looks like the cables or charging stations from MG themselves are about the cheapest, $299 for standard charging cable or $2k for the station.
    https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/files.digitaldealer.…

    • Thank you.
      I was looking at the government subsidy and got a bit confused.
      There seems to be different options for wall plug and the standard one takes 18 hours so probably wouldn’t be viable.

      https://www.energymining.sa.gov.au/growth_and_low_carbon/ele…

      • +3

        It only takes 18 hours if the car is almost fully discharged. The best part of EV’s is that you can keep them topped up at home all the time. You don’t need to and probably shouldn’t just run them from 100% down to 20% and then recharge… The idea is to drive it around during the day and charge it up at night when you are not driving it.

        • +3

          Agree, just because your EV has 300km if range doesn’t mean you only recharge when it’s empty. EVs are more likely to be designed to be on charge whenever they are parked up.

          Eg even if your daily commute is 30km you put 30km of charge in every night.

          It’s just a different mind set from having to go out of your way to get fuel at a special station whenever you run low. You change to plugging in at every opportunity so you don’t need to go out of your way to charge because you’ve driven further than usual.

        • Awesome. My plan is to charge it daily for about 4 hours but I drive maybe 120kms a day so I’m not sure how that will work out.

          • @Oz em: If you've got it at home just leave it charging whenever your at home. You will need a fast charger installed at home to get 120kms done.
            I've got Tesla model 3 and just use the regular 240v outlet with it, gives 2kw/hr which is maybe 15+km/hr charged - I just charge overnight every night, leave with 300+km daily.

            It becomes second nature just plugging it in when you get home.

          • @Oz em: Get you trip log app going to check how far you really drive. That way you can start calculating how it’s all going to work.

  • Whats your situation? Garage, driveway? Do you intend to charge overnight or during the day?

    • Garage and hoping to charge during the day with solar power.

      • +1

        So make sure your solar has plenty of availabe output and look for a charge controller that will smart charge from the solar avaiable as priority.

        • It’s a 10kw system and hardly is used, just tv during the day.

  • +2

    Get the BYD coming in August, Better looking, interior and overall better car IMHO.

    I think MG it's $3k from memory?
    Else just plug into a conventional wall outlet and trickle charge overnight.

    Unless you're doing >300k's a day 8 hours at a wall outlet overnight should give you enough power.

    • Hoping to use the solar power.
      Probably 2 hours of driving each day.

      Do I need to full charge every time or is it ok to charge with an outlet daily for 3-4 hours?

      • If only covering 200ks a day trickle charge overnight would be heaps

        • +1

          No 200ks a day you would need something other than your household plug. It only adds about 10-12KMs an hour on your average size EV

          • @pao2x: Sorry
            That was assuming 100k/hour
            In reality it'll be closer to 60k/hour

      • +1

        Two hours of highway driving a day doing over 100km/h you will need a dedicated charger. Two hours in the burbs city with a bit of highway you will be fine on a wall plug overnight

    • I would love to wait but I don’t think my current car will last until the end of the week.
      I’m hoping with the cost of petrol this is the best option to go with.

      • But you can't buy the MG Excite EV now either? They seem to be just registering interest at the moment.

        • I don’t know. It is showing as some 2021 models in stock locally but I haven’t spoken to them.

  • +1

    I have a Nissan leaf ze1 (it's great for commuting). I initially used a slow charger ($500) for a couple of months while waiting for wall charger to arrive/install. It charged at 2.3kW, about the same as a kettle or iron, and added perhaps 12km range per hr. That's probably enough for many people's usage case.

    I do a lot of km and wanted to maximise solar usage so I got a Zappi charger from evolution Australia. I have 3 phase power, so got the 22kW 3 phase charger even though I can only charge my car at 6.6kW. It has 3 modes. I use all 3 depending on when I'm using the car next. Quite expensive though. Around $3000 incl install. Maybe not economically best option but I like to be able to drive on sun power whenever possible. In QLD I've read that we have something like 70% coal power.

    • Did you get the government rebate for your charger?

  • I've got the MG HS PHEV (i.e. now called the EV+ model).

    Trickle charging overnight with the included 10a wall charger gives me a full charge from empty (16.6KWh over 7 hours @2.3kW). My setup & schedule means this works fantastic for my needs. I can actually charge during the day as well, since my TOU tariff has daytime prices actually less than overnight for some reason! I just avoid peak times from 4-9pm.

    A pure EV means a bigger battery and thus you'll likely need a dedicated charger - but also means a dedicated circuit etc. Make sure to get a 'smart' charger for scheduling and ideally match your solar system output times.

    • I’m hoping to charge from 10am-2pm with a 10kw system but I have no idea how much it would charge in that time or if the solar would generate enough electricity.

      • 4hrs X 10kW = 40kWh of charge capacity

        What's the capacity of the car? If it's say 60kWh then you'll be able to charge 2/3rds of the battery in that time.

        The other issue is your actual solar output - a 5kW system is only going to provide at best half of the charging input, so you'll still be adding on grid power. Make sure you have good rates during the day for if it's cloudy or raining.

        • It’s 10kw but I still don’t know.
          It seems to say online it can charge 7.5kw per hour with a 10kw system but then if it’s bad weather you really don’t know what ot will generate.

          During summer we haven’t used the ac, it’s been very cool but this may have been just this summer then I would be trying to charge the car and cool the house.

    • +1

      A pure EV means a bigger battery and thus you'll likely need a dedicated charger

      Maybe, but it also depends on distance driven and energy consumption if the vehicle. Even with a huge battery I reckon more than 90% of he time I could cope with a slow overnight charger for 50km of range. For the occasional times I travel more than that I could probably make up the difference over a few nights or use a public fast charger for a quicker boost back to full.

  • The guy that parks next to me paid $2500 for a 20m run of cable from the fuse box to the car space. (Tesla charge station)

    Personally, I think it was a really poor "investment" for 2.5 years of use. (he's just moved out).

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