Should I Take up Second Job Offer?

LAsrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 19:55
Last edited 06/06/2022 - 07:25

Hi Guys,

I am a single bread winner for my small family. I work as a contractor to one of the company (XYZ) from 7.30AM to 3.30PM. Now with raising cost of living, fuel, food prices. I thought of doing another part time job after 4PM. And now I got an offer to work as part timer from 4PM to 7 PM.

However, I just read my contract details with my current company (XYZ), that I am not supposed to work in any other companies, and if they find out, they may terminate my contract.

Now, I am not sure as what to do, as the part time job offer rates are not high as compared to salary from XYZ.

Is it risky to take-up the part time job, as I may lose my primary job from XYZ?

So should I take up the second job inspite of being agreed in a contract with company XYZ ?

Cheers

Final Update:
Thanks everyone for your inputs. Now, I have decided to take up the second job…. Thank you again

Education & Work

Comments

  • randomusername2017 on 05/06/2022 - 20:00
    +3

    It's ok if it's with SBS… No one will notice..

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:01
      +1

      Let me make a change from ABC to XYZ :)

      • randomusername2017 on 05/06/2022 - 20:03
        +3

        Yeah..but now you have primary job at xyz, yet still take a salary from ABC… Conflict 🤷‍♀️

        • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:05

          Fixed it now… Do you work as tester? lol

          • SF3 on 05/06/2022 - 20:48

            @Asrap1984: XYZ Company, XYZ is a fully integrated creative production agency.

            Which XYZ? Google returned a few…

  • El cheepo on 05/06/2022 - 20:07
    +1

    Is trying to earn a few extra bucks worth risking your main income?

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:21

      yeah.. I am just so confused….. don't even know what are the chances of my company XYZ, getting to know about my second job

      • [Deactivated] on 05/06/2022 - 22:54
        +1

        they probably have this policy in place so that they receive 100 % of your time and effort, if you have another job, you might start getting tired, overworked and not giving the first job 100 % (which is their main concern)

  • CrowReally on 05/06/2022 - 20:11
    +2

    The biggest risk is XYZ has a crisis and needs you to work back late and you blurt out "But I have to go to work for-".
    I knew someone that happened to, but the 'worst' that came of it was 1st job made them quit 2nd job. Of course, there may be lurking reputational damage..

    You understand the risk involved with doing the extra work, only you can decide if it's worth it or not.

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:19

      Thanks mate.. So far my company XYZ, only has 8 hours of work.. they don't entertain any additional work.. But I hear what you are trying to say..

  • godofpizza on 05/06/2022 - 20:29
    +2

    does the other company you looking a direct competitor of XYZ? Does you work agreement mentioning working outside of the current hours ( callouts etc)?

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:54

      No, They are into different line of business

  • cuteseal on 05/06/2022 - 20:34
    +3

    What’s the exact wording in the contract?
    And is the part time job related or in the same industry as the first one?
    Maybe there might be a potential conflict of interest (e.g. insider knowledge from one job could be used as an unfair advantage in antoher).

    I know someone who is highly paid professional does uber driving on the side just for fun. Obviously with uber it’s completely unrelated and also he can choose when to turn it on so it doesn’t conflict with the schedule of his primary job.

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:53

      They are altogether in different industries

  • dizzle on 05/06/2022 - 20:40
    +4

    Most of the times that claus is there as a non-compete. So if you worked for Harvey Norman, you couldn't also work for JB hifi at the same time. Or if you work for a supplier, you can't work for a retailer.

    Firstly It's so that you're not in a position to take sales/work from the main company, but it's also so that you can't compromise company assets/intelectual property. So if compnay A is having a sale, you can't alert company B.

    So depending on your work for each company and what those companies do, it may not matter. In which case it's best to tell them "I need some extra work, I'm looking at after hours work for…"

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:54

      They only want to employ for 8 hours..which I am currently on

    • stewy on 05/06/2022 - 21:53

      I think you'll find it is more around ensuring employees aren't overworking themselves in their second job to the point that their performance then drops in their primary job. If they wanted a non-compete clause, they'd specifically list that from what I have seen in my contracts.

    • OpayuOnam on 06/06/2022 - 20:03

      Regardless of what the intent is, I have personally seen these non-compete or whatever we want to call them being thrown out the door a few times as for most of the people it is not enforceable.

      I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice. Seek your own legal expert.

  • Muzeeb on 05/06/2022 - 20:51
    +13

    The real question is - are you overpaid?

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 20:53

      I didn't get your question

      • elgrande on 05/06/2022 - 21:04
        +4

        Its an in-joke

        • SF3 on 06/06/2022 - 09:29
          +1

          I think it's out now.

  • Mechz on 05/06/2022 - 21:22
    +7

    Why not ask your main employer if it's ok. Then you'lk be in the clear if they say yes with no ambiguity or risk?

    • Asrap1984 on 05/06/2022 - 21:51

      just worried, if they say..NO

      • Mechz on 05/06/2022 - 21:52
        +5

        Yeah but would you be more worried taking it without their consent and loosing your main gig?

      • miwahni on 05/06/2022 - 23:24

        If they say No, then you decide whether you want to risk your employment with your main employer being terminated because you breached your employment contract. Or just say no to the second job, so that your main job remains safe.

        Or if that's not good enough, go find another fulltime job that pays a better rate.

  • Hardlyworkin on 05/06/2022 - 22:27

    Are you a contractor or an employee?

    • Asrap1984 on 06/06/2022 - 06:50

      contractor

      • Hardlyworkin on 06/06/2022 - 07:46
        +7

        If you are a contractor then you should be able to do whatever in your spare time - unless it directly negatively affects the company you contract to or some other reason like safety?

        Why don't you speak to them and say you need the extra money and see what they say at least? The reward of a heavily taxed second job versus risk of losing your main income doesn't seem a good one.

        • dp1 on 06/06/2022 - 08:37
          +3

          Finally someone gets to the issue. If you are a true contractor you are selling a specific service (your knowledge, time or skills) to XYZ. If XYZ tries to dictate anything outwith this, for anything that can be shown to be unrelated to their business, then the ATO considers it a sham contractor arrangement and XYZ owes you paid annual leave, sick leave, parental leave, super, workcover etc. As a contractor you pay for all these things yourself which is unfortunately why a lot of employers encourage "contracting" arrangements.
          Is XYZ paying you so much that you can support the family on 8hrs a week?

      • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2022 - 09:39

        freelancer?

  • holdenmg on 05/06/2022 - 22:55

    So… if you are injured while working at the Second Job and can't work for XYZ, where do you stand on Workers Comp?

  • Eeples on 05/06/2022 - 23:23
    +2

    It would be easier if your 2nd job was cash in hand.

    Moreover, in the 2nd job you will be taxed at the highest rate (but you can claim it back at tax time).

    • Asrap1984 on 06/06/2022 - 06:50

      Unfortunatly, its not in cash

  • Some Human on 06/06/2022 - 02:34
    +4

    Why don't you send the missus out to work after hours and you look after the kids?

    • Asrap1984 on 06/06/2022 - 06:50

      no, that's not possible

      • Some Human on 06/06/2022 - 12:47
        +5

        Fair enough.

        Send the kids out to work.

  • Slinky0111 on 06/06/2022 - 07:22
    +3

    Also may have to do with fatigue management and legislation regarding heavy vehicles. Don't think that is the case in this situation though

    • Asrap1984 on 06/06/2022 - 07:24

      you are right

  • Overclocked91 on 06/06/2022 - 07:39
    +4

    Have you thought about looking/leaving your main job for a better-paying one? So, you don't need to work 12-hour days for the rest of your life.

  • kaleidoscope on 06/06/2022 - 09:44
    +2

    If they are in competing industries you may risk your first job. Otherwise talk to your manager and explain situation and be upfront about it. This way you do not need to make excuses later on and they will even accomodate you or set some expectations.

    If they strongly discourage it, you will know that doing it without informing would have been very problematic. This will also indicate that you may need to look for better employer as your main gig :-)

    No one can prevent someone from doing extra work to earn bit more as long as you arent involved in unethical or prohibited work.

    Good luck đź‘Ť.

    • BewareOfThe Dog on 06/06/2022 - 10:21

      Yes be honest and up front. Say that you are not earning enough money, and need to pick up extra cash.

      Feel free to send me a direct message, as I may have something suitable for a second job.

  • Quantumcat on 06/06/2022 - 14:46
    +2

    It is not worth it, you will pay a large proportion of your second job wage as tax. You would be selling your resting/leisure time very cheaply. Unless you are in danger of not making your mortgage payments and losing your house, don't do it. If you need extra income your partner should be working. That's a lot of tax-free threshold he or she is throwing away by not working even a little bit.

    • cheekymonkey97 on 08/06/2022 - 18:33
      +1

      Completely agree with this. My mate works his day job and then works as nightfill at Coles from 6pm to 9pm. He said they were hiring and I thought it'd be a good idea to pocket some extra cash while I'm young. Did the maths and it turns out after tax and HECS I'll be taking home less than $15/hour. Told him no thanks. My free time is worth more than a few bucks.

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