Dishwasher Leak – ~$10K Kitchen Damage, AAMI Rejected Insurance Claim, Dishwasher Manufacturer Doesn't Want to Know about It

Got a dilemma right now and rather annoyed. The dishwasher inlet valve fitting where it connects to the tap under my kitchen was faulty and leaked. Got a call one afternoon at work when my wife got home to find garage was flooded. The hose fitting had leaked under the cabinet, under the tiles and come out through the garage as the garage slab is lower than the house slab. Called a plumber that day to find the leak, turn the water off and the leak was stopped. Dishwasher technician came out about 2 weeks after and replaced the dishwasher inlet hose under warranty and has been fine ever since.

Lodged a claim with AAMI under home and contents insurance. I’ve had multiple people come and inspect my kitchen, take photos, moisture readings and give me an air scrubber due to mold under the cabinets. AAMI just called and now saying they are rejecting the claim as they consider it a ‘slow leak’.
There’s probably an estimated $10K or so of damage to my kitchen cabinets, skirting boards, wall linings, etc. Potentially more if there is damage to wall lining/insulation/timber framing behind cabinets. Moisture reading showed all the kick panels in the kitchen cabinets are still wet and the entire island bench (where the dishwasher and sink is) is very wet and moldy.

Contacted dishwasher company multiple times and they said they’ll don’t cover damages to kitchen if their dishwasher leaks.
I thought it would d have been a pretty straight forward claim, but AAMI doesn’t want to pay out. I had told the case manager maybe they could follow up with the dishwasher manufacturer to pay my insurance excess. Sent them my dishwasher purchase invoice, serial number and model number for them to follow up with dishwasher manufacturer to confirm they came out and replaced my inlet valve/hose under warranty.

I have an invoice from the plumber which just shows he turned up, found the leak and stopped it. Have lots of photos of us cutting up plaster boards to find potential leaks and video of leaking dishwasher valve. How quickly does the water leak need to be for AAMI to determine it to be a ‘slow leak’? It was dry in the morning and about 6 hours later the garage had a large puddle of water. Could see the water dripping out of the slab once wall lining was removed. Have an invoice from the plumber that day which says they found the dishwasher hose leaking and stopped it.

Waiting for AAMI to send me their assessor’s reports so I can go through the appeal process to protest their decision. Anybody been through a similar experience?

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  • +60

    Your use of the word 'leak' meant your claim was never going to be sucessful.

    If it was a burst, then yes, but a leak, no.

    • +5

      Agreed

      Have an invoice from the plumber that day which says they found the dishwasher hose leaking and stopped it.

      That doesn't help

    • +43

      I guess for once OP should have consulted OZB before calling insurer or plumber. OP may have been able to convince the plumber to invoice it as a burst rather than a leak.

      • +31

        Ozbargainers were often discouraged to post on ozb forum for professional advice.

        Your use of the word 'leak' meant your claim was never going to be sucessful. If it was a burst, then yes, but a leak, no.

        I learnt something new today.

    • +9

      I did not know that. Thank you!

    • +68

      What the hell is the point of insurance then?

      Seems like insurance companies make it sound like their policies cover you for 300 scenarios where it really only covers you for 2.

      • +40

        point of insurance then?

        Pay $$ to feel like you are protected, until you need them, then it'll be like a department store 50% off sale with massive exclusions.

        • +13

          Don't forget the visit from Price Jack at renewal time too

        • +2

          Heh. I find it funny that you pay them and you are THEIR customer for long periods of time, then when it's time for you to make a legit claim, they pay people to actively fight you as hard as possible to not pay you out.

          It is a weird relationship that you pay them and they use that money to try and screw you.

          It's like I go and pay an accountant to do my tax, then my accountant uses this money to go and create a legal team to sue me for not documenting my finances properly.

        • +8

          Because ripping out and replacing a flat pack kitchen is the same cost as being on the hook for potentially multiple vehicles, property damage, or medical bills.

          • -2

            @GrueHunter:

            potentially multiple vehicles, property damage, or medical bills.

            Just to be fair, third party insurance is compulsory, if he doesn't want to insure his own car then that's his prerogative but in NSW (and Aus?) you definitely have 3rd party

            • +7

              @coffeeinmyveins: LOL have fun telling your CTP insurer to pay out for damage to the other vehicles in an accident.

              • -3

                @lint:

                LOL have fun telling your CTP insurer to pay out for damage to the other vehicles in an accident.

                That's what the claim process is. Not sure what you're trying to get at. If it gets denied because you were drunk, driving dangerously or disqualified then yes, you're F'd.

                • +4

                  @coffeeinmyveins: You do realise CTP covers injury or death to people as the result of a motor accident and not damage to motor vehicles or other property, right?

                  I hope you haven't been skipping out on motor insurance with the mistaken belief that you'd be covered for third party damage by CTP.

                  • -2

                    @lint: Well aren't I dope.

                    No, I have everything because I'm not an idiot and don't assume that nothing bad will happen.

                  • @lint: now that's something new I just learned today. wasn't aware that CTP only covers injury or death to people.

                    a friend was behind the wheel in an accident that he caused about 15 years ago, he was sleepy and hit a car stopped at red light (who then hit the car in front). He didn't have 3rd party. Car was written-off, and received fine from police but didnt spend a single dime on damages. Lucky break for him, I spose?

                • +1

                  @coffeeinmyveins: CTP only covers people (injury/death) it doesn't cover property (eg. car).

            • @coffeeinmyveins: third party personal is compulsory, third party property is not. if you crash into someone, their medical bills are covered. fixing up their written off range rover is not.

            • +2

              @coffeeinmyveins: In most states ctp/= third party insurance.

              Ctp covers injuries only.
              Third party covers the damage to property

        • +1

          Yeah and then you crash into something expensive and suddenly you're stuffed.

          • -2

            @smartazz104: How's that different to.making a claim and having it denied?

        • For my older car, comprehensive car insurance with Budget was cheaper than their 3rd party only.

        • I've saved close to $10k now over the years not having car insurance, I can now afford to get a better car than the Ozbargain car of choice, the Toyota Camry 🤣😎

          Don't come crying to us when you crash it

      • +4

        Come down to peace of mind. In the last 20 years, I've claimed once around 13k. Burst pipe in bathroom under slab. One of my relative house burnt down, insurance paid out close to 500k. Imagine without insurance on this.

          • +17

            @YepYeppers: You'd have to be insane to not have insurance. These are the same people that you see on the news in tears when they lose everything — demanding a government payout or a GoFundMe. I like to sleep well at night.

            • -7

              @meowsers: Ofcourse it's in the news, insurance companies would love seeing that, even though the data clearly shows it's extremely unlikely, it feeds into the fear. Otherwise how do they make money, year after year?

              Warren Buffett, considered by many to be the greatest investor in the world loves insurance companies…I wonder why!?

              • +3

                @YepYeppers: Of course it's all part of the corporate money machine. It's also a condition of a mortgage if you have one.

                The whole concept of insurance is a known loss now (premium) for coverage against an unlikely event. Look at all the schmucks without insurance in NSW…

              • +6

                @YepYeppers: Spoken like somebody who thinks risk is only about likelihood, rather than a considered balance between likelihood and consequence.

                If only the international risk standard said something about that. But what would experts know? You have your folksy common sense!

                Be sure to drink and drive. You'll almost certainly be fine.

                Almost. But that's enough, yeah?

          • +2

            @YepYeppers: Business exists to make money for sure. Insurance is a piece of mind, hopefully I don't have to use it. Home insurance also covers public liability, visitor injured in your house. If something does happened, I know I am covered.

        • +1

          My relatives house burnt down and they had no insurance ☠️

      • +12

        There's difference types of insurance. You get what you pay for and cheap insurance is never any good.

        The AAMI policy is a Defined Events (or Listed Events) policy, no matter what they label it or what options you take - It is not a Full Accidental Damage policy.

        Defined Events policies only pay for claims arising out of a few scenarios and exclude everything else. Full Accidental Damage policies cover just about everything unless specifically excluded.

        Read your PDS' or go to a professional for help, people!

        Buy a quality policy and you'll find that claims are paid with no fuss and you don't have to use the insurers rubbish trades who do terrible work.

        • Are there "undefine event" home and content insurance policies?

          • +1

            @surm: Read my post.

            They're called Full Accidental Damage policies.

            • @imurgod: Are you able to list some insurers that issue "Full Accidental Damage" Home and Content policies?

        • +2

          AAMI are hardly even cheap - I wonder if OP wouldve had a better experience with budgetdirect or coles insurance or some of the actual cheap ones

          • +1

            @echelon6: True but their cover, awful and basic as it is, beats budget direct, youi, Coles and all bank issued policies (the worst of the worst).

          • +1

            @echelon6: Nope, got rejected from BudgetDirect with balcony leak. Insurance companies are professional scammers, using millions of words to hide exceptions and make them complicated so that they have a 'way out' almost every time.

            • @mrvaluepack: The clue is in their name BUDGET direct.

              What were you expecting, that they were going to pay claims? Lol.

              What caused the balcony leak?

              I never have any problems getting claims paid.

              • +1

                @imurgod: Bought a brand new house. Rain water from balcony leak into bedroom below. Failed waterproofing membrane underneath wooden decking after 10 years. They claim its a 'maintenance' issue. Does everyone replace/redo waterproof membranes after 10 years? Lol they are a joke.

                • +3

                  @mrvaluepack: This is an excellent point!!

                  You will find that their PDS refers to "defects" in some form as an exclusion and most of these insurers will use the "wear and tear" excuse to deny any claim they can.

                  Quality policies will cover "unknown defects".

                  You could argue this one with some ease by going through the correct process, although BD are pretty scummy.

                  • @imurgod: Pretty much the words they used - wear & tear..lol. So i guess their norm is for everyone home owner with a balcony on the second floor to dig up their tiles or wooden planks every so often and redo the waterproofing.

                    It was my first time claiming and being denied insurance. Lesson learnt, never rely on insurance. Im just only sticking with them because their annual premium is the cheapest and i need home insurance to show lenders when i refinance.

                    • +1

                      @mrvaluepack: Why not spend a few more dollars and get insurance that will respond to claims?

                      That's the point of having insurance.

                      You should never buy insurance on price. Always on cover.

                      • @imurgod: All their PDS looks the same. I've tried searching online for your "Full Accidental Damage Cover" but either can't find it or doesn't exist.

                        • +2

                          @mrvaluepack: What do you mean? Read what I wrote; no direct insurers offer Full AD cover.

                          The PDS' look similar on the surface but they are very different. You don't know what you're looking for so you probably won't see the differences.

                          Talk to an insurance broker.

                          Steadfast agreed wordings are the best unless the home is >$2M rebuild cost, in which case Mansions or Chubb (whom only offer cover for high value homes)

                          I use Chubb for mine. They're the best of the best.

        • Who might have these full accidental policies?

          • +2

            @oO0Dam0Oo: You can get them from a decent broker who knows what they're doing.

            Make sure you tell them you're after a full accidental damage policy.

            • +2

              @imurgod: Thanks mate. I am with AAMI and they are not cheap, but will definitely look at other options through a broker based on your comments.

            • @imurgod: Well, that's unfortunate. Do brokers have access to insurance policies and or insurance underwriters that aren't available to the general public? ie. can't be done via a google search? I've been a home owner for over 10 years with multiple companies like NRMA, Suncorp, AAMI, RACQ, etc etc. These days it seems like half of them are Suncorp (like AAMI) anyway.

              • @eek: Yes. Brokers have access to insurers, agencies and even PDS' that you can't access direct.

                Many are even the same insurer but a very different policy.

      • Of course. How do you think they make their profit?

      • +1

        Insurance companies should be outlawed. They're scammers; like online gambling companies they don't produce anything of value, just fleece people. The government should have a universal house and car insurance scheme that everyone pays into. Private hospitals should cease to be; an improved Medicare system (with dental included) would replace them.

        • +1

          "Scammers" that have paid out over $3b and counting for the damage caused by the floods alone.

          The issue is that the the slick TV ads are all from insurers that don't pay claims and people try to get the cheapest, most limited cover to protect their biggest investment!

          That's insane!

      • +1

        No most are good for major events. "Generally" most are not intended to cover minor events. Yes I know 10k is a lot to you, but it's not a major event.
        When a big event occurs, all the big players, generally pay up, and don't look to point the blame. Many cases of them paying up when people were not correctly covered due to honest mistakes, missing repayments ect..

        Yes, as a business they are not charities so will try and minimise what they pay out. This actually protects as all, as many tradies out there try and rort the system which left unchecked drives up prices across the board. eg: You may want something replaces, but the insurer may chose a repair.

        They want the industry to have a positive image, so people purchase more insurance\see the value.

      • Read the PDS (carefully), and make sure you know what is covered and what is not. Only claim for items and events that are covered. Everything else is most likely to be declined. Sometimes you get lucky and score more, but that doesn't happen often.

    • wow thanks learned something new

    • +6

      That's weird - I went back to my own policy PDS under the 'Escape of Liquid" event and it clearly says that they cover it liquid leaking from a dishwasher (as highlighted in bold). There's also nothing it the "We don't cover" section re slower leaks either.


      We cover

      Loss or damage caused by liquid leaking, overflowing or bursting from any of the following:
      • refrigerators, freezers, dishwashers and washing machines;

      • any drain, fixed pipes, drainage and sewage systems (not forming part of a shower cubicle wall, floor or base);
      • fixed tanks;
      • swimming pools or spas;
      • waterbeds;
      • baths, sinks, toilets and basins (but not showers);
      • fixed heating or cooling system;
      • water main, fire hydrant or water supply pipe;
      • tap spindles;
      • an aquarium.

      We don’t cover

      • the cost of repairing or replacing the item from which the liquid escaped e.g. a cracked pipe or leaking tap;
      • loss or damage caused by flood or storm surge;
      • loss or damage caused by erosion, vibration, subsidence, landslip, landslide, mudslide, collapse, shrinkage or any other earth movement, but we will cover loss or damage to your contents caused by a landslide or subsidence proved to have occurred within 72 hours of, and directly because of, escape of liquid and not because of erosion, structural fault or design fault;
      • wear, tear and gradual deterioration or loss or damage by the gradual process of leaking, splashing, dripping or overflowing;
      • the cost of locating the source of the escaped liquid;
      • leaks from agricultural or overflow pipes;
      • loss or damage caused by liquid from a portable container, such as pot plant, vase, terrarium, fishbowl (but not an aquarium), beverage container, saucepan, bucket or watering can;
      • loss or damage caused by liquid from a watering system or garden hose;
      • loss or damage caused by, a leaking shower floor, leaking shower base, leaking shower cubicle walls, leaking shower glass screening or doors, leaking open shower floor areas or other wet areas;
      • costs if you repair or renovate a damaged area of the building before we can inspect it and find the cause;
      • loss or damage caused by wear, tear and gradual deterioration, rust, fading, rising damp, mould, mildew, corrosion, rot.

      • Sounds like GIO. Nice find, fair trade for no flood cover I guess.

        • +3

          Nah, it's actually the AAMI Home and Contents PDS from earlier this year.

      • Huh? It says:

        wear, tear and gradual deterioration or loss or damage by the GRADUAL process of leaking…

        • +1
          • +1

            @bobbified: Right, but thats not the argument. Whether or not damage caused by a slow leak is covered - it appears not.

            • @allewell: But if we are arguing on the gradual nature of damage, OP admits:

              It was probably 2 weeks after the leak until I lodged a claim with AAMI as I started noticing the kick boards under the cabinet had started swelling

              So I can see AAMI's perspective here.

              • +1

                @allewell: No, that just means it took time for much of the damage to become apparent.

                I think OP has a case in that the actual cause of the damage is from a burst inlet pipe and not from an undetected gradual leak so it should be covered by AAMI's policy.

        • +2

          What you want to do here is have the insurer refer you to the part of the PDS that defines "Gradual" and go from there.

    • +7

      from now on, I'm replacing that word in my vocabulary just in case this ever happens to me.. now pardon me, I'm of to take a burst then maybe I'll enjoy some burst soup for lunch

    • +1

      I had a leak in my roof which damaged a wardrobe (potentially spread some mould) and was covered. Started from a leak though.

  • +1

    ‘slow leak'

    Its been happening for while? and you didn't noticed it?

    I had a dishwasher pipe bust and flooded the entire house and AAMI paid for it.
    BTW, I didn't call any plumber, I turn off the mains and call AAMI, they pretty much organised everything.

    Bit of bad luck there I guess OP.

    • +6

      I doubt it had been leaking for more than a few hours? When I left for work in the morning and it was fine - wife got home early in the afternoon to find garage was flooded - had a puddle about 3m x 0.5m. Could see it trickling out of the wall. AAMI engages a 3rd party contractor Ambrose who does all the assessments etc and for some reason the report says it's been leaking for 1 month????? WTF

      • +10

        AAMI engages a 3rd party contractor Ambrose who does all the assessments etc and for some reason the report says it's been leaking for 1 month????? WTF

        Its look like technicality issue, you need to prove its a bust not a leak, or maybe it was a very unnoticeable leak turn in to a bust, how in earth you would know when its behind the appliances.
        As shown below, open a case https://www.afca.org.au/make-a-complaint/insurance

        • Sound advice, although maybe tell the claim administrator that you are going to AFCA, and see if that doesn't lght a fire under their rear end.

  • +46

    AAMI.. Hey my god..

    What else you expect from such a shady company - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-06/couple-denied-aami-ho…

    Thank god. Left them

    You should fight. If there was no water in the morning, and it happened in the span of 3-4 hours its not a slow leak. They are trying to avoid the claim.

    • +6

      Sounds like they are trying to avoid it. But I don't understand why their assessor said it had been leaking for 1 month. I have photos with DCIM data and videos showing the water leaking, plus plumber invoice for the same day showing it was identified and rectified the same day. No water in the morning, afternoon it was flooded.

      • +20

        How did mould grow on one afternoon?

        • +5

          Mid March, went to work, house was fine. Maybe 6 hours later wife calls me, says garage has water. I rush home, call plumber, find leaking dishwasher hose, turn off dishwasher tap, no further water in garage.

          2 weeks later, notice kitchen cabinets are swelling up, make a claim. Water still sitting inside cabinets. 2 months later, in May, insurance company asssor comes and looks at swollen cabinets, rips open the kick panel with crow bar, finds mold inside.

          During the 2 month period Brisbane experiences a very wet period of constant rain, flooding etc, though my house wasn't affected by any rain storm damage or flooding.

          • +2

            @eek: Sounds to me like the assessor is getting the "1 month" from the fact that they arrived 1 month after you lodged the claim, despite the leak happening 2 weeks prior to that.(sorry if I've got the timelines wrong)

            I would be asking them how they calculated that it had been leaking for a month, and from what date they determined that the leak started.
            (I suspect their date is either the day that the plumber came and stopped it, or the day you lodged it with AAMI)

            Regardless, I would not be dropping this if I were in your shoes!!

            • @BrotherEstapol: This whole thing seems to be headed to QCAT.

            • +2

              @BrotherEstapol: Absolutely - it seems like there has been a miscommunication perhaps? I'm guessing they could argue that it took too long to report the claim - however to my knowledge once MDF panels get soaked it's pretty much a death sentence and needs to be replaced. The only way to have even 'dried' it out is to damage and remove the kick boards and other panels. It's not a cheapo flat-back kitchen where the kick boards clip onto the plastic legs. It's all built on a MDF plinth secured on the concrete slab.

              I also don't like how as the customer and home owner I had zero visibility of the progress of the claim, the findings and outcome until the claim was finalsed, decided it was rejected and the claim manager washing their hands clean saying I have to take it up with a separate complaints department or via AFCA. Guess it's the job of the claims manager to tick-and-flick claims, regardless of outcome and get it out of their pipeline.

              • +1

                @eek: Yeah it seems like there's a big onus on the customer to know all this stuff in advance.
                I'd wager that many people would not have a clue what MDF is, let alone know that their kickboards are made of MDF, nor about how MDF gets wrecked by water!
                I don't think it's unreasonable for your average customer to think that once the leak has stopped and the surface is dry, that everything's fine. I mean, obviously that's not the case at all, but this is where the tradies doing repairs should probably be providing some advice about what other damage might have occurred. Even if they didn't, the insurer shouldn't expect all homeowners are experts in the materials their houses are made of.

                Getting left out of the loop on the claim process is also super dodgy.

      • +6

        Except they didn’t. They genuinely didn’t consider it a business. It’s a difference of opinion. Very different from a lie.

        • +5

          An AAMI spokesman said the couple's business was not the same as a lemonade stand and they had a registered ABN, signage, and a Facebook page for the business.

          They had an ABN, what does the B stand for?

          They had signage and a Facebook page to do what?

          • +2

            @tsunamisurfer: The B stands for Business.

            Means nothing. Having an ABN does not mean you’re running a business. I have a couple of ABNs for various things like shareholdings. They’re certainly not businesses.

            From what I’ve read I wouldn’t say they were carrying on a business in their house. Eggs from a shed far away from the house then left at the end of their driveway with an honest box. Please. That’s a hobby, it’s no business.

            I’d see it as a similar category to someone selling a few $100 of handicrafts on eBay every month. It’s a hobby.

            But of course, you’re entitled to your opinion, and you see that as running a business. I wouldn’t be calling them liars though.

            • @ChickenTalon:

              They genuinely didn’t consider it a business.

              That's what it's all going to come down to, whether a reasonable person would consider what they are doing is a business or not. Bit hard from the information provided, but having an ABN does seem to be the damning part

              Having an ABN does not mean you’re running a business.

              The fact AAMI used it as reasoning, then assuming the ABN was for the couples "business" and not being used for a family trust or something is reasonable from the information we know.

              I’d see it as a similar category to someone selling a few $100 of handicrafts on eBay every month.

              It would be interesting to know if the businesses Facebook page listed their home address, or directed people to their house to make a purchase. They had business signage outside their house, that's a bit different to selling something purely online anonymously. The risk-profile for someone selling their stuff online vs directing the general public to their house would be significant.

              Anyway no-one can really know either way from the aritcle, but it is a little more grey than everyone who seems to be calling out AAMI

              • @sheamas88:

                The risk-profile for someone selling their stuff online vs directing the general public to their house would be significant.

                Which is what it will likely come down to if it ever gets as far as court. If there was an incident, such as a robbery, then AAMI would likely have reason to refuse a claim. Perhaps arguing that the egg signage made the house a more likely target. Even with an easy to steal honesty box at the end of the drive way…

                But AAMI isn’t arguing that the couple contributed to the loss from what we can get out of the article. Just that they didn’t fill in the details correctly on their insurance application.

                • +2

                  @ChickenTalon:

                  If there was an incident, such as a robbery, then AAMI would likely have reason to refuse a claim

                  No, that's not how it works, but I understand why people seem to think this. From the article, AAMI is claiming they would not have insured the house to begin with had the couple disclosed the business, that's different to AAMI denying the claim due to negligence from the couple which is what you're talking about with making themselves a target for robbery. I only brought up the risk-profile to demonstrate that AAMI may have found them uninsurable because of the business, sorry for the confusion.

                  AAMI isn’t arguing that the couple contributed to the loss

                  Correct, because they aren't denying the claim, they cancelled the policy all together. ICAs26(2) paraphrasing says a statement shall not be taken to be a misrepresentation unless the maker knew, or a reasonable person in his/ her position could be expected to have known, that the statement would be relevant to the insurer’s decision to accept the risk. Basically, if AAMI would not have given them insurance had they disclosed they were running a business, then they can refund the premiums and cancel the policy completely. AAMI would have actuary tables that show they find home insurance too high risk if business is conducted there, and that's what they'll use to demonstrate they never would have offered the couple insurance had they known.

                  That's what they are playing at, all they have to show is that a "reasonable person" would have known what they were doing was a business, in which case they would have been required to disclose this. So the question is whether they are running a business, not whether the business contributed to the loss.

            • @ChickenTalon: LOL righto "it's not a business, but I need it to be under a business" cherry picking the perks isn't apart of that mate.

      • +1

        Sorry, but you NEVER get the full story from these sort of foot-in-the-door cash-for-comment TV shows. You're a fool if you think you got anything like both sides of the story from an ACA report. None of us here have the faintest clue of the rights and wrongs of that dispute.

    • +3

      AAMI are okie, I haven't had any issues with their claims yet.
      You get similar stories with pretty much every insurance company these days if you watching current affairs.
      It just bit sux that they pick on that family for side job.

    • +15

      An AAMI spokesman said the couple's business was not the same as a lemonade stand and they had a registered ABN, signage, and a Facebook page for the business.

      Eh, pretty damning that they had an ABN and signage, then try and claim they weren't running a business from their house.

  • +2

    Eek indeed.

    • +1

      Leek indeed?

      • -1

        Whoosh… OP’s…

  • +3

    I suspect it will end up with lawyers.

    In the mean time get everything in writing from AAMI. Read the insurance PDS from one end to the other and make sure the info AAMI supply reference(s) to the section(s) in the PDS that shows why they declined the claim and if they do not then go back to AAMI and ask for the section and paragraph in the PDS that they are using to decline the claim.

    Then once you have the info on why the claim was denied then you will agree or not. If you do not agree then make a formal complaint to AAMI that the claim has been incorrectly denied and go through each of the references they have given and refut each point.

    If AAMI stiff does not agree to the claim then make a formal complaint to the insurance council or the appropriate ombudsmen that looks after the insurance issues.

    Then if you ar still not satisfied get a lawyer involved.

    Unfortunately this will take months to resolve if it can be resolved.

    • Their contractor came and tore out one of the kick panels to see if there was mold underneath. it's currently covered with plastic and ductape. been over 3 months between lodging the claim and coming to this decision.

      • +1

        Their contractor came and tore out one of the kick panels to see if there was mold underneath

        Mold doesn't happen instantly, so it sounds like it was leaking for a while.

        What is the slab moisture reading? As this will tell you how long it has been leaking for. I'm guessing this was a slow leak that finally gave way :(

        • +1

          It was a few months between AAMI inspecting the kitchen and when it flooded. Slab moisture reading was all fine and even the slab towards the garage. Even the garage wall mositure reading was fine. Just the kitchen cabinet kick panels were still wet when they came and did the readings.

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