Car Accident, Who Is at Fault

Hi ozbargain,
just had a car accident, both party happy to drop it with no further pursued due to minnor damage.
just want to know who is at fault.
Video have attached.

https://youtu.be/hyoqMF7ghbs

Poll Options

  • 10
    Car;
  • 96
    Truck;

Comments

  • +21

    Reversing vehicles must give way to others, but pulling in so close behind a truck not clever
    .

  • +29

    Truck is at fault but if you can't see the mirrors the truck driver can't see you. Drive defensively.

  • -2

    As above, the truck driver would not of seen you at all. Should not of pulled behind him. If you stayed on the road he then would of saw you.

    You basically stole his parking spot that se just saw was clear without him seeing you, why did you do that?

    • +17

      You basically stole his parking spot without him seeing you, why did you do that?

      Look at the cars infront of the truck.

      The driver thought the truck was joining the 'left turn' lane but he was intending on reversing into the parking spot.

      Easy mistake to make.

      • Easy mistake to make.

        Ah ok makes sense, saw the distance from intersection and though those cars were parked. Then realised its Sydney.

      • This clarified everything, i was so confused. Real shit situation, i can see both perspectives but truck is at fault.

    • +1

      " If you stayed on the road he then would of saw you."

      so by him not able to see the car he could deduce it was now behind him.

    • +2

      Would not have, should not have, would have seen you

  • Was the truck getting in the kerb lane or parking?
    Were you getting into the kerb lane or parking?

    Guess you were both parking after the contact.

    • Looks like car was trying to turn left and truck was trying to park

      • +6

        Shouldn't be driving through parking spots then….

  • +5

    Truck is at fault HOWEVER something that I always remind myself as a motorbike rider is that I'd rather be alive and wrong than right and dead. If I did that on my motorbike and followed that truck as close as you did, I'd be squashed.

    Always give trucks way more room than you think you need to give them and don't tailgate them.

  • +3

    Truck, but it's a shit situation.

    you shouldn't have been so close

    But also why did the truck reverse park when there was plenty of room to just pull aside and park?

  • +2

    I forget trucks don't have rear mirrors.

    Did you beep at least.

    • +1

      Yes when you see those reverse lights go on, definitely sound the horn immediately even while you are trying to quickly find the reverse gear to get out of its way!

  • +1

    I'm can sense what the car driver was assuming would be happening, but the fact is that the car crossed the line on the left side of the road before the 'left turn' lane began. If the car driver had remained on the road proper, the truck driver would have at least seen the car.

    • -2

      If the car had stayed on the road it would not have been able to turn left (if the truck was joining the left turn queue)

      • +5

        The car could have joined the left turn lane when it was free to enter.
        If the car had not yet reached the left turn lane, the appropriate action is to indicate left but remain behind the rear of the truck.

        • -2

          The car could have joined the left turn lane when it was free to enter.

          Not if there was a green light to go straight ahead before the left turn lane's green light, then hanging out in the right hand lane waiting for them to go so there was space for him. This would result in causing a big traffic hazard with lots of people beeping at him and maybe crashing into him if there is someone not paying attention who doesn't notice he is stationary in the lane

          I think it is accepted practice when there is not enough space in the left lane, to just stay as far left as you can, forming a continuous line, then it is really obvious for people approaching to know what's going on. Not sitting in the right hand lane on your own when there is space to the left

          • +2

            @Quantumcat: Incorrect.

            I agree that it may be inconvenient for following car drivers who may want to go straight ahead, but that isn't this car driver's problem.
            There was no space in the left turning lane.
            Indicating left would have made following drivers aware of the intention.

  • -2

    What an odd scenario. What were you trying to achieve? Did you sound your horn? I'm blaming op for being a Muppet.

    • +1

      No need for that. He thought the truck was turning left, as would most if you watch the start of the video. Truck is at fault.

      • +4

        You can't wait to turn left in a parking bay because you know what - a truck might want to park there.

  • +1

    by law Truck should be at 100% fault AFAIK.

    by (my) logic car is at 1/3 fault by following truck so close and hide into truck's blind spot,
    and the truck is at 2/3 fault by 1.reversing into others. 2. no reversing camera (or didn't check behind)

  • +3

    Truck because reversing and needs to give way (Road Rule 296), but were you going parking there or waiting in line for the next intersection?

    You cant cross that big white edge line unless you are basically parking there or avoiding an obstruction (Road Rule 150). It looks like he was going to park to unload, but you drove up behind them…

    Google Maps link for reference. Parking/incident spot is approx 125m from the intersection, so Road Rule 150 (1B)(a) does not apply.

  • +1

    Truck at fault, but agree with others that the car's driving was not 100% here.

    It's hard to see exactly what is going on in front of the truck. There is certainly a line up of cars turning left, but it's also quite a distance from the point of the accident to the major intersection ahead.

    While the truck is at fault, I think under the circumstances in their totality I would not have pulled in behind the truck if my intention was to turn left down at the major intersection.

  • +1

    Looks like the truck had plenty of space to go frontwards directly into the parking. Not sure why he chose to reverse in. It looked like the truck was entering the queue of left-turning traffic.

  • +1

    Truck, but understandable and a bit silly of the car.

  • That truck has a damn reverse camera 😂

    He is at fault, he should have payed attention to his surroundings (ie: look what’s happening behind him when he braked and seen you indicating to follow him and subsequently pull in behind him)

    If he was going to reverse into a driveway he picked a bad way to go about it, had no situational awareness and no hazard lights activated.

    And again… the camera…
    if he had taken a second to let the camera kick in he would have seen you 😂

    To be fair its not a truckie, just a oversized glorified van.

  • Truck is at fault. Just the fact, he literally stops, then less than a second he starts to reverse. Surely, any cautious driver would stop, pause for a second or 2, ensure everything was clear before reversing. He abrupt driving says it all.

  • +1

    Truck is at fault but car didn't help situation too close to truck and trucks don't have center mirrors if your directly behind you may not be seen by the trucks side mirrors. As to reversing cameras from driving different trucks all sizes more than half don't have reversing cameras but if he did the camera normally takes a sec to turn on and he put it in reverse pretty quick so quick he probably only looked in his left mirror for the kerb and assumed no one ducked in behind him. Never follow any vehicle that close but he is in the wrong no doubt. Protect yourself allow room. Also your required by law to leave space in front of you in case you are rear ended.

  • Truck at fault 110%

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