Does Anyone Here Comment on News Corp Articles, Like The Australian or News.com.au?

AustriaBargain on 19/09/2022 - 15:28
Last edited 19/09/2022 - 15:38 by 1 other user

There was that deal earlier this year that have you six months free News Corp subscription, which is something a lot of us would never normally buy. Anyway being a subscriber means you can comment and rely to comments on articles. A lot of these sites have a very specific kind of reader, you can count on casual racism being the top rated comments, conspiracy theories, hate of the ABC, and hate of any political opponent to the Coalition really. Not all News Corp websites are like this, but the ones with the most influence like Sky, The Australian. It's less so on more mainstream sites like news.com.au.

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  • GG57 on 19/09/2022 - 15:37

    Is Sky influential?

    • AustriaBargain on 19/09/2022 - 15:44

      Looks like it's not half as popular as the ABC. Maybe a quarter as popular by ratings. But that still adds up to a good few percent of the population reliably influenced, it must help a bit at election time vs just letting Sky viewers think for themselves.

      I don't know if broadcast TV ratings tell the whole picture though. ABC News on YouTube has 1.7 million subscribers and Sky News Australia has 2.8 million. Both accounts are roughly as old as each other, started 2008 and 2007 respectively. Plus people have to pay for Sky News channel don't they?

      • GG57 on 19/09/2022 - 16:01

        I guess that explains why some people still voted for Morrison in his own electorate.

      • ozhunter on 19/09/2022 - 16:08

        Subs mean nothing, how many views are they getting…

        • AustriaBargain on 19/09/2022 - 18:40

          Sorting their videos by popular, the top 30 videos on Sky News has more views than ABC News. ABC News posts a lot more videos. In total ABC News Australia has 772 million views and Sky News Australia has 2.46 billion views.

          Sky News Australia YT channel might attract a lot more international viewers than ABC News (Australia), and News Corp can leverage their global network to push more views than ABC can, but overall it seems to be much more popular worldwide.

      • ParmiAndChips on 19/09/2022 - 20:13

        Sky has been free-to-air in our area for a while now. And this is regional nsw

        • AustriaBargain on 19/09/2022 - 20:18

          Ah I see. I never have tried to watch it before so I wasn't sure.

      • payless69 on 20/09/2022 - 08:23
        +1

        Forcing me to read News corp sewage gets me more hair over my upper lips!

  • orangetrain on 19/09/2022 - 15:50
    +14

    They often moderate comments to control narrative, it's effectively an echo chamber for nasty yet valuable customers.

    • quog on 19/09/2022 - 16:02
      -4

      So, exactly the same as the ABC and SBS only not paid for by taxpayers!

      • gakko on 19/09/2022 - 16:12
        +5

        Neither of those sites do comments. But even if they did, you'd be wrong.

      • ThithLord on 20/09/2022 - 09:11
        +1

        The same ABC who flew LNP colours and propaganda during the '22 Federal Election? Yeah, probably do moderate comments for the LNP, you're right.

      • poboy on 21/09/2022 - 01:08
        +1

        Everyone on the board of the ABC was hired by the Liberals.

  • Drakesy on 19/09/2022 - 15:51
    +11

    Every now and then i'd go onto sky's youtube channel and punch on with the loonies for fun (when i was in the final month of my job and didn't have much on).
    Not going to lie, it was pretty entertaining dealing with brainwashed people who'd follow Pete Murray, Bolt and Rita off a cliff.

    This is classic Newscorp trying to keep out the people that won't push their propaganda agenda and generate an echo chamber/choir
    It would be nice though to open the comments section to all, going off the amount of flack their Facebook posts get it would be absolute carnage (which is why they want to limit it to the converted).

    • brendanm on 19/09/2022 - 16:26
      +1

      Pete Murray

      Wrong Pete 😂

      • Drakesy on 19/09/2022 - 16:31

        haha ,Good get
        yeah, don't have anything against the singer
        Paul is the drop kick

        I need a nap

        • brendanm on 19/09/2022 - 16:32
          +4

          Oh, I assumed you meant paleo Pete Evans, gotta activate those almonds!

          • Drakesy on 19/09/2022 - 16:34

            @brendanm: and sun your butthole!

            Almost forgot about him.

            I think he was drowned out by their obsession with Grace Tame and Greta Thunberg hate speech.

            • brendanm on 19/09/2022 - 16:35

              @Drakesy:

              and sun your butthole!

              😂 Poor pete

  • CrowReally on 19/09/2022 - 15:57
    +2

    If you think 'The Australian' is terrible, wait until you see the "how do you do fellow kids" youth version 'The Oz' which is basically running the same stuff through a meme filter 'for the kids', and deciding because it's such a valuable service, it should be paywalled as well.

    Because, you know, after paying for their avocado toast, the next priority a millenial has is "paying for news articles that are free elsewhere".

    • gakko on 19/09/2022 - 16:15
      +1

      Just checked it out. It tries so hard but is so boring. Love it. I give it about 1 year before it goes offline.

    • freefall101 on 19/09/2022 - 16:21
      +4

      I love how their top stories for Monday include that Greg Norman got a haircut.

      Next up: Who's hotter - Tony Bennett or Paul McCartney?

  • JimmyF on 19/09/2022 - 15:59
    +2

    Newscorpse is a cesspool. They have a demographic and they know who that is.

  • freefall101 on 19/09/2022 - 15:59
    +1

    This explains why you're worried about idiots on Youtube becoming millionaires.

    Even though it was a free subscription, stop using it. It's not doing you any good.

  • Benoffie on 19/09/2022 - 16:00
    +4

    What's the question? Seems more like a statement.

    Also, first responders are given NewsCorp subscription for free every year. Interested to know how many of them we're labelling as a part of 'casual racism being the top rated comments, conspiracy theories, hate of the ABC, and hate of any political opponent to the Coalition really'

    • GG57 on 19/09/2022 - 16:04
      +4

      There is obviously a section of the population that are 'casual racism being the top rated comments, conspiracy theories, hate of the ABC, and hate of any political opponent to the Coalition really'.
      There is a section of the population that are "first responders".

      I'm sure that there are some in the second group that qualify for the first group.

    • quog on 19/09/2022 - 16:05
      +6

      agree, it's a statement of hate by the OP, and of the OP's self righteousness. sort of like a troll, but his post wont be removed, mine will.

      • ThithLord on 20/09/2022 - 09:12
        -3

        Diddums, do you feel personally slighted?

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 19/09/2022 - 16:15
    +4

    the only forum worth giving a damn about is ozbargain forums (and maybe I guess r/chinesewatches personally).

    • Drakesy on 19/09/2022 - 16:33
      +1

      that and r/reptime when you just want to have a chuckle at the whole watch industry

  • GordonD on 19/09/2022 - 16:15
    +6

    So "a lot of these sites have a very specific kind of reader, you can count on casual racism being the top rated comments, conspiracy theories, hate of the ABC, and hate of any political opponent to the Coalition really"?

    Just like when you go to any site with a lot of ABC fans you get casual accusations accusing everyone they disagree with of racism, plain crazy ideas about social issues, hate of the Murdoch media, and hate of any political opponent of the Greens?

    Of course the two ends of the political spectrum, the ratbag right and the looney left, demonise and hate the other end.

    • whatwasherproblem on 19/09/2022 - 17:00
      +6

      Of course the two ends of the political spectrum, the ratbag right and the looney left, demonise and hate the other end.

      It's gotten truly ludicrous over in the US where they've somehow, hilariously, politicised the very idea of being non-partisan. I've seen more than one person claim that the "The two sides are just as bad as each other and politicians are all a bunch of geriatric clowns that don't care about anyone but themselves" take is somehow a far-right take.

      • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 11:02
        +2

        It kind of is from a rightwing perspective.

        Because in my experience the vocal portion of the right generally considers the moderate centre to be left wing.

        If you are characterising the entire moderate centre, moderate left and extreme left as a single group, you are seeing through distorted glasses.

        Furthermore, that moderate centre gradually shifts left over time.

        The right cannot come to terms with the fact that human society as a whole is shifting left over time due to the progressive nature of Democracy and the progressivism that emerges from the expansion off human knowledge and our understanding of diverse perspectives.

        • whatwasherproblem on 20/09/2022 - 11:49

          Because in my experience the vocal portion of the right generally considers the moderate centre to be left wing.

          And the vocal portion of the left considers them to be right-wing, leading to absolutist idiocy like the "silence is violence" meme.

          The right cannot come to terms with the fact that human society as a whole is shifting left over time due to the progressive nature of Democracy

          Oh really?

          • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 11:59
            +1

            @whatwasherproblem:

            Oh really?

            Yes. When you plot progress over time, there is a clear trend upwards. Finding individual instances that don't fit the curve doesn't mean the curve isn't there.

            • whatwasherproblem on 20/09/2022 - 12:05

              @ForkSnorter: Really? Because that 'instance' seemed more like the pendulum snapping back. Almost like one of the most progressive nations in the world has finally looked around at the liberal 'paradise' that your curve was leading them to, and said "enough".

              • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 12:28
                +1

                @whatwasherproblem: The leftwing Social Democratic Party got the highest number of votes by far, and the highest number of seats by far.

                A group of rightwing and moderate-right parties have formed a coalition that is going to win the election by a very slim majority by pooling their results. However, the government will be led by the moderate-right "Moderate Party", and not the far-right "Democratic Party".

                https://www.val.se/servicelankar/otherlanguages/englishengel…

                The war in Ukraine and the desire of some people to join NATO has had an impact on the election results.

    • Presence on 20/09/2022 - 08:58
      +1

      I read the ABC every day and really value it, but they are absolutely obsessed with race. There's barely a single issue where they can't find some minority group slightly worse off, just due to demographics, and they use it to push their victim competition to new heights.

      • quog on 23/09/2022 - 23:01

        Would u pay actual real money from your own pocket direct to read it, or should those that don't read it keep supporting you?

  • Hardlyworkin on 19/09/2022 - 16:16

    I like to browse over the stories on Foxnews in the US and read the comments. I barely agree with anything posted though it's interesting to see how others think. It also makes me feel better about life here!

  • tallkid123 on 19/09/2022 - 16:18

    No, I just hopelessly spam their competitions wondering if I'll ever win.

  • franco cozzo on 19/09/2022 - 16:25
    +3

    MY media is more relevant than YOUR media….because MY media told me so

    • Ugly on 19/09/2022 - 17:45
      +4

      BuT, bUt, mUrDoCh !!!!!!!

  • sam-1966 on 19/09/2022 - 16:27

    I do get the survey sometimes from The Courier Mail in Brisbane asking me my favourite thing about it…

    I always respond with 'picking the typos and grammatical errors'…

    Seriously, I subscribe because I do very well through their rewards program with tickets etc.

  • ozhunter on 19/09/2022 - 16:32
    +3

    Other websites like Washington Post and New York Times have their own echo chambers in the comments section too.

  • SF3 on 19/09/2022 - 16:38
    +2

    Is it why we comment on OzB, so we don't need to comment else where?

  • Ghost47 on 19/09/2022 - 17:22

    I’ve read those comments sections and have always wondered what kind of people those commenters are. Just a really nasty, toxic environment that makes me wonder how people can say such things. I wouldn’t be surprised if people who comment there act the complete opposite in person.

  • SnowDragon on 19/09/2022 - 18:57
    +4

    They don't let you comment on everything - and if you can comment their moderators won't let anything slightly opposite of their opinions be published.

    I've started just finding the authors on twitter and @-ing them when their stupid Meghan hit pieces are published (among other things)

    At the end of the day I hate myself for viewing Newscorp "journalism" but it helps me kill just a little bit of the workday finding out the "Queen's real cause of death".

    I get access through my Uni - as if anyone would pay for this crap.

  • Almost Banned on 19/09/2022 - 18:59

    Had MUCH more success having comments published on news.com.au than on WAToday or other Fairfax publications.
    They each have their own editorial view and targetted readership - so I guess that tells you which why my comments tend to lean.

  • plmko on 19/09/2022 - 19:22
    +3

    MSM is just terrible.

    • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 10:50
      -2

      I don’t respect anyone who makes massive generalisations like this.

      The media is diverse, and some of it is terrible, some of it is extremely good journalism.

      • Almost Banned on 20/09/2022 - 11:40
        +1

        Oh - please give a couple examples of the extremely good variety.

        • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 11:43
          -3

          You and plmko obviously don't read a lot.

          Asking for some examples of good journalism is like asking someone to show you some examples of trees with leaves on them.

          • Almost Banned on 20/09/2022 - 11:47

            @ForkSnorter: You are the one who made the claim.
            You have the burden of proving it.

            • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 15:48
              -1

              @Almost Banned: Based on your reasoning, I also have the burden to prove that some trees have leaves on them.

  • mauricem on 19/09/2022 - 21:48
    +2

    The Aus wont publish any comments even mildly critical of the article. But it doesn't seem to matter what the topic is if you can attribute blame to ALP or Biden its worth a run.
    I've had a student rate sub to the Aus which will shortly expire and wont renew even though some of their investigative work is very good. The uncovered a lot of new material around the recent Rolfe /Walker trial.

  • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 08:31
    -4

    Nowadays I feel like the right has moved further to the right. And a portion of the right has merged with conpiracy theorists (ironically, some of those conspiracy theorists were originally extreme leftwing, but they have begun to adopt rightwing opinions).

    And in my experience the population that the right labels as "leftists" (in a derogatory sense) is in fact mostly moderates.

    The derogatory criticism of "leftists" by right wingers is extremely common among readers of Newscorp newspapers and viewers of Skynews/rightwing YouTube channels.

    I'd argue moderates have shifted slightly left over the past few decades, only because society continually shifts left over time due to the progressive nature of democracy.

    I think the radical polarisation between left and right, which we witness online and in social media, originates from the left and right incorrectly assuming that extreme left or extreme rightwing ideology/behaviour are representative of the entire left (including moderates) or the entire right (including moderates).

    This is called cherry picking, and I think people do it unconsciously.

    I have been reviled and attacked by both left and right wingers for expressing moderate opinions.

    I think the reason for the personal attacks is because by adopting a moderate opinion that didn't conform to their extreme position, they assumed I was representing the other end of the extreme.

      • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 10:03

        Seen that.

        Musk has definitely shifted slightly right. I'd argue he was moderate left and now he's moderate right.

        I think the current left-right polarisation is partly to blame.

        A portion of the left that he previously identified with has shifted further to the left, and it's now common to alienate people who don't agree with you on a single issue.

        When Musk is criticised for holding moderate opinions, or by being a ruthless businessman, he reacts against it by shifting further to the right.

        The problem with polarisation is that it's kind of a positive feedback loop, whereby alienation leads people to look for like-minded opinions to help them shelter from the alienation. That results in a continual shift away from the centre.

        • ozhunter on 20/09/2022 - 23:19

          I'd argue he was moderate left and now he's moderate right.

          Yea that's where he put himself in that pic, arguing he stayed the same.

    • Almost Banned on 20/09/2022 - 11:45
      -1

      Funny.
      I think the left has moved radically left in a comparatively short period of time.
      Ten years ago most people did not support same-sex marriage.
      Five years ago most people did not support defund the police or racial riots.
      Three years ago most people did not support the idea that if you think you are a woman, you are one.
      One year ago most people did not support transitioning children…

      You are right at the general direction of society - but absolutely wrong that the left has only moved 'slightly'.

      • ForkSnorter on 20/09/2022 - 11:53
        +1

        Funny.
        I think the left has moved radically left in a comparatively short period of time.

        No a portion of the left has moved to the radical left.

        A portion of the radical left has become more visible. Social media exaggerates the presence of certain groups. Don't forget 20 years ago there was no social media. Everyone is more visible now.

        A portion of the moderate centre has shifted slightly left.

        That's the problem with polarisation. You see only the polar opposites, rather than the spectrum of nuances.

        Ten years ago most people did not support same-sex marriage.

        That doesn't support your assertion that the left has moved radically left. Why is this radical? Isn't it more likely that the moderate centre now supports same-sex marriage? That isn't the radical left.

        Unless you assume everyone who isn't rightwing is radical left?

        Five years ago most people did not support defund the police or racial riots.

        Who does now? Recommend you don't generalise if you want a clear picture of reality.

        Three years ago most people did not support the idea that if you think you are a woman, you are one.

        I can't comment because I have no experience of this. But I would not presume to understand what is going on inside other people's heads. The human brain is very complex.

        • Ghost47 on 20/09/2022 - 21:24
          -1

          Good comments.

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