Buy 1 KG of Un Chico or Black Rose and get a Mystery 250G single automatically added to your order. No code needed.*1 per order
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Hi Ozbargainers, we are back with a freebie this time! Buy 1 KG of Un Chico or Black Rose and receive a mystery 250G single origin.
Deal is for all purchases between October 31 - November 1, gift will be automatically added to your order.
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Where is your coffee from (and do not listen up 4-5 countries. Beans will lose their characteristics, when the areas change)? Which beans do you use? What is your roaster procedure look like? How strong is the coffee?
Sorry, but here are sooo many coffee brands, just having a fancy packaging but not good coffee. If some of them would be seriously about coffee, they would answer those questions directly by themselves.
And honestly, 250 g for free, considering those prices. That’s nothing. Converted $47 to 31$ (USD) for 1 kg of coffee, you will get the best beans in Italy, from very, very good roasters for around 22-25$. It’s just money making.
When you have marketing skills and know a little bit about coffee, open a coffee business, people will pay it. I never saw such a small country with so many roasters, so high prices, but so low bean quality.
All the coffee deals here, but not differentiation. And I even bet it almost taste the same … I respect Australian coffee culture. You have so many good Baristas and machines, but in 95% so bad beans. Even a Cappuccino should taste at least a little bit like a coffee creation, not like milk.
All the information on their website.. eg.
Black Rose:
Brazil, Colombia, Indonesia.
A strong and full bodied, medium to dark roast blended the Italian way. This coffee is a good "pick me up" coffee. Flavours of toasted almonds, caramel with a soft praline finish. Cuts well through milk.
What else you needed to know!!
You don't understand my point or? When growing coffee in different countries, the soil is different as well. That influences the taste. Added to this, you need to know the mix of Arabica and Robusta beans. Furthermore, "flavors of toasted almonds, bla, bla, bla." - but why? Because of the roast? The specific beans? The soil?
That's nothing, no information at all!
But it's ok. I cannot convince biased people. Enjoy your coffee and I'll mine. :-)
No robusta in any premium coffee beans as they are lower quality and cheaper.
These are all information normally provided in any Australian freshly roasted Coffee beans roasters..
You can either buy single origin beans or blend (blend is combination of few SO beans from different region to compliment each other). Don't know what you on about..
How strong is the coffee?
And there's where you lost all credibility.
Coffee labelling could be better but, what I don't get about this person is that after this incoherent rant about Australian coffee labelling, his "holy grail" of coffee(Store bought Robusta blends) has even LESS useful information on the packaging?
The soil?
seriously? You need a full soil report of the all the farms or what?
you need to know the mix of Arabica and Robusta beans
Arabica 100% is not even listed most of the time, because it is assumed by default. This is because Robusta is considered low quality and not even used in some of the cheapest supermarket blend coffees.
What is your roaster procedure look like
This guy wants a roast profile graph or what? like this
without any roasting experience i doubt anyone would even know how this would even affect the taste.
how does a high to low temp profile affect taste
How strong is the coffee
This usually means roast level, and in the description it says "Black Rose: medium to dark roast"
Why? That's what I wanted to say: https://cannonballcoffee.co.uk/blogs/cannonball-coffee-blog/..
I don't know if I understood that blog correctly, but no one is measuring the caffeine content of beans, it's not a meaningful measure in any way, a espresso shot has way more caffeine than the same volume of filter coffee you can't compare.
Where is your coffee from (and do not listen up 4-5 countries)
there are many countries listed because its a blend of coffee from different countries. "Black Rose: Brazil, Colombia, Indonesia."
The worst part of this is if you google the coffees he considered good, they don't even have any of the information he complains about not having!
what useful info do these coffees have
have a look
"Passalacqua Cremador is a dark roasted espresso coffee with a lot of character roasted by the Passalacqua family roastery in Naples. The coffee contains, besides Arabica coffees, also 30 % Robusta for a stronger espresso experience. The use of robusta gives a rich, full-bodied crema on top of the espresso.
The taste is pleasant and balanced with clear nuttiness."
like what, its literally the same.
where is the soil report you are complaining about?, where is the roast procedure that is so important? this doesn't even have the coffee bean origins(roasted in Italy but where are the beans from)??
Just say you like your Robusta blends, there isn't a wrong preference when it comes to taste. But don't broadly disparage the quality of all coffee sold in Australia, because it doesn't meet your preferences, and don't make up illogical justifications for your belief, like the labelling is different from the coffee you like, therefore it is of insufficient quality. Especially when the coffee you like doesn't have things like soil reports, or roast profiling anyway, and otherwise contains the same information.
I respect your preference, but as you say
I cannot convince biased people. Enjoy your coffee and I'll mine. :-)
(btw, I have never bought any coffee from the OP of this thread, or any of the coffee's this guy has listed)
You don't get me as well. I referred the soil report on coffee beans on the SAME price level. The ones I mentioned are FAR cheaper. When you buy coffee beans around $45-$50 in Europe, you get every information I stated. And no, the stated ones are definitely not on a level with Lavazza Oro.
I never get with Australians are so proud on marketing coffee beans, sorry. That's nothing about a coffee "culture" that's about paying stupid prices and being kidded.
Aldi beans at $12-$16 / kg would way exceed the brands you mentioned from quality, freshness and price point of view. Most their packs are 100% Arabica beans apart from the dark roast which is mix or Arabica / Robusta.
@huntabargain: I am German, and I can definitely tell you that the Aldi beans are not comparable to the ones I stated. ;-) But I can imagine that you can confirm them with the $45 fancy ones sometimes.
@[Deactivated]: You and Aldi might be German origin, but their coffee beans has nothing to do with Germany, they are either SO Brazil, SO Colombia, 100% Arabica medium roast Blend or Arabica / Robusta dark roast beans and all are freshly roasted in Melbourne with normally roast date within 2-3 weeks.
I normally buy from Aus roasters but tried Aldi SO few times when ran out and they are excellent value, quality and fresh. I would not touch any imported beans that were roasted few months ago at ridicules prices specially with cheap Robusta beans.
But everyone to their own logic.
@huntabargain: Sure, but the beans in Germany ones are not German as well. Aldi normally copies a lot of their recipes all over the world, but I think you are right. Nevertheless, the value you get when buying things like this at Aldi is outstanding. Probably we were not all the time the same opinion, but I think we both agree that it sometimes make more sense to buy the cheaper Aldi beans than the fancy stuff. I would not like to generalize that every expensive beans here are only marketing fakes, please do not think so.
even if you compare some of the more well known, fancy speciality coffee roasters in Germany and Scandinavia.
* the barn,
* leuchtfeuer,
* Tim Wendelboe
* Solberg & Hansen.
to fancy, hipster Australian coffee roasters the information labelling is really not different.
* single o,
* five senses,
* seven seeds
All of them are for sure more detailed than Ozbargain listings, but that's apples to oranges.
@Fleur Edge: I never heard of the ones you stated. But you are right, they are fancy, putting a lot of money into marketing and this stuff, but I doubt that some of them at least, do not spend the money into the quality of beans and roasting processes.
I am just criticizing the prices of the fancy coffees. That was my initial point about. I recognized that a lot of these "fancy ones" are excisting here. Nothing more.
You’ll have to do better to convince us to try you
Sure!
Passalacqua - Cremador
Danesi - Miscela Oro
Hausbrandt - Nonnetti
Hausbrandt - Super Bar
That are even large-scale roasted beans, but so good. For the real specialties, just visit some Italian roasters pages. I know, they are not available here, but probably it could inspire someone.
Which beans do you use, and where do you buy them from?
I import my beans from Europe, the above-mentioned ones. Shipping costs for 10 kg of coffee is around $100. The beans are around $32 per kg. All in all, including shipping, it is around $42 per kg, but for very good coffee and my favorite beans. Of course, thanks to the shipment the price per kg is ridiculous, but for me it’s worth it. :) … and, it’s still lower than the fancy packaging beans here. ;-)
… but some of them are directly available in Australia. Saw the Danesi and Passalacqua here as well in some online shops. Hausbrandt, which is my favorite, unfortunately not.
@[Deactivated]: Danke, I was looking at those and the shipping seemed extreme so I thought you might be sourcing them in Australia, but I see that buying in bulk ameliorates the shipping.
How do you store that much coffee?
@kiitos: How do you store that much coffee?
Good question, probably stale coffee beans by the time it arrives and consumed..
@kiitos: Well, that's the trade-off. I consume around 2 kg per month, so it's not that easy to store such a lot coffee. I pay attention that the roast date was quite recent. But you are right, that is not that easy.
@[Deactivated]: Maybe you could participate in a group buy scheme? If you're in Sydney, I'd be interested in buying some off you to try.
When you are trying to advertise something to someone who has never heard of you, saying something like
Is a huge turn off. Add coffee bean in there somewhere so you can attract the right groups of people.