Sanity Check My Next Budget-ish Desktop/Gaming PC Purchase

OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 14:02
Last edited 07/11/2022 - 15:37

Hey all,

I'm after a good value PC for playing the new Call of Duty with mid-high specs, as well as plenty of everyday use.

I'm thinking of this from BPC Tech, upgrading the CPU to 5600: https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/sv-syberspring01-siren-vo…

From doing a bit of reading here BPC Tech seem to have a good reputation on OZB- correct me if I'm wrong.

I have no idea about computer specs etc, so what would I for example lose gain by going for an option say $200 less or more? What should I be looking for?

My current PC has an i7 4770 (3.4GHz) and an NVIDIA Quadro K2200, would it make sense to maybe just upgrade the GPU on this instead? Would that allow me to play COD at those higher settings? Currently it crashes if I do any more than the basic settings.

Are Black Friday sales likely to affect the price of something like this (or an alternate that you'd recommend?)

Any other advice you could give me would be sincerely appreciated.

Thank you!

Edit: I'm running this monitor: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monito… so would want it to look as sharp as possible with this :)

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  • Fergy1987 on 07/11/2022 - 14:44
    +1

    Upgrading just the GPU is going to cost you close enough to your $1000 linked above - might as well get the whole thing updated since you're on a 8 or so year PC

  • scrimshaw on 07/11/2022 - 14:57
    +1

    That BPC gaming desktop isn't outrageously priced, looks fairly reasonable.

    Came out to around the same price if you were to buy those parts individually and build it yourself

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vfqPLs

    • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 15:35

      That's what I've gathered by trying to read between the lines but thank you for checking!

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 07/11/2022 - 14:58
    +2

    Just a tip, those Quadros usually fetch a decent price as peeps love them for Plex servers etc.

    • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 15:29

      Thank you- where would I sell it- Just Facebook Marketplace? What's a decent price in your opinion?

      • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 08/11/2022 - 20:27

        Yeah definitely try Marketplace. No fees. You might get a higher selling price/more exposure via eBay but then you have the fees to deal with and the buyer-centric "protections".

  • freefall101 on 07/11/2022 - 15:17
    +1

    I was gaming on an i7 4770, it was definitely hitting its limit even with a 2060. Upgrading to a 3700x gave a massive improvement - similar to what you'd probably get with a 5600.

    IMO that's very well priced for a prebuilt. Only thing I'd think about is maybe asking what the cost is of switching it out to a 6800xt, although you lose DLSS if you want to play at 1440p (or even 4k a little). Depends on your monitor though, if you're at 1080p/60hz it should play anything you throw at it.

    • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 15:34

      Thanks for your reply- there's a bit of jargon there haha, could you elabortate a bit further:

      6800xt - what difference would it make? FYI I'm looking at doing local streaming to a handheld, I know Moonlight only works with Nvidias, is there an equvalent with Radeons?

      I have this monitor FYI, I'm not even sure what it's capable of: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monito…

      • scrimshaw on 07/11/2022 - 15:37

        I believe there's AMD Link https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/amd-link

      • freefall101 on 07/11/2022 - 17:57
        +2

        Ha, sorry! Short answer, if you're using Moonlight stick with nVidia. AMD has similar tech but nVidia's is simply better.

        Long story short, the 6800 xt would give you much higher frames per second on your monitor with the same graphics settings. Most likely either GPU would let you run games on max settings, so its more about futureproofing or a boost in framerate.

        For a few jargon explanations:
        On the CPU - Games are more than GPU limited these days, the CPU can limit the framerate of games significantly when it's taxed. Both parts need to be able to keep up with the game. 5600 you're looking at is a great upgrade if you want to do things like play cod at 100fps

        6800xt - it's a faster GPU with less bells and whistles (those being DLSS and raytracing and things like nVidia's encoding for Moonlight)

        1080p/1440p/4K - number of pixels on the screen, 1920x1080, 2560x1440 and 3840x2160. More pixels, more work for the GPU to create each frame that you see. So the higher the resolution the slower the frame rate. 60hz is the refresh rate, hertz and fps are interchangable.

        Your monitor is 1080p and 165hz which mean you're limited on resolution but can show a whole lot of frames per second. You might not have ever played a game at 165fps but your monitor can do it. Personally I'm an old man and don't see the difference, but some people love it, personal preference. It requires a decent GPU plus a fast CPU though, if you were to run it at 60hz at 1080p or 60hz at 4K the CPU wouldn't notice any difference.

        DLSS - upscaling technology nvidia has, basically the game plays at a lower resolution then upscales it to a higher one (like upscaling a DVD on a 4K tv, only better). It would matter a lot more if you had a higher resolution monitor (more pixels). Not really relevant to you with that monitor as it's all about resolution and not frame rate or other graphics settings.

        Raytracing - pretty shadows and reflections. It traces individual light rays and looks amazing, but taxes the hell out of the GPU and AMD GPUs are terrible at it.

        • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 18:08
          +1

          Wew this is super detailed, thank you so much

  • jizmo on 07/11/2022 - 17:56

    HP have got 25% off on some stuff ends today. Haven't realty looked though all the deals but $1200 will get you.a better CPU but worse off GPU.

    Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    PROCESSORS
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 5700G (up to 4.6 GHz max boost clock, 16 MB L3 cache, 8 cores, 16 threads)

    AMD Ryzen™ 7 processor
    Chipset
    AMD Promontory B550A
    Memory
    16 GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM (2 x 8 GB)
    Memory Slots
    2 DIMM
    Memory Note
    Transfer rates up to 3200 MT/s.
    Hard Drive Description
    1 TB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
    Storage Type
    SSD
    Optical Drive
    DVD-Writer
    Cloud Service
    25 GB Dropbox storage for 12 months
    Graphics
    AMD Radeon™ RX 550 Graphics (2 GB GDDR5 dedicated)
    I/O Port Location
    Front
    Ports
    1 SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 5Gbps signaling rate; 2 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 10Gbps signaling rate; 2 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate; 1 headphone/microphone combo; 1 microphone
    I/O Port Location
    Rear
    Ports
    4 USB 2.0 Type-A; 1 audio-in; 1 audio-out; 1 microphone; 1 RJ-45
    Expansion Slots
    2 M.2; 1 PCIe x16; 1 PCIe x1
    Memory Card Device
    HP 3-in-1 memory card reader
    Video Connectors
    1 HDMI 2.0;1 DisplayPort™;1 dual-link DVI
    Audio Features
    5.1 surround sound
    Keyboard
    USB black wireless keyboard and mouse combo
    Network Interface
    Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
    Wireless
    Realtek RTL8821CE-M 802.11a/b/g/n/ac (1x1) Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® 4.2 combo
    Power Supply Type
    310 W Gold efficiency power supply
    Energy Efficiency Compliance
    EPEAT® registered
    Dimensions Without Stand (W X D X H)
    15.54 x 30.3 x 33.74 cm

    https://www.hp.com/au-en/shop/sale-offers.html?aoid=3086284-…

    https://www.hp.com/au-en/shop/hp-pavilion-desktop-tp01-2002a…

    • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 18:54

      What would the practical implications of running COD with this vs the original post be? ie would I get better performance on COD from this or the BPC one?

        • OzBargainer12345 on 07/11/2022 - 20:03

          That tells me there'd be a massive decrease from the BPC one, but doesn't tell me if the better CPU makes up for it? Sorry I am a real noob in this space

          • scrimshaw on 07/11/2022 - 20:15
            +1

            @OzBargainer12345: It won't make up for it, video games have a heavy reliance on GPU performance.

            that HP Pavilion Desktop PC is not suitable for gaming and doesn't have the right specs for it.

            When you're buying a gaming PC with a limited budget, you generally pair a budget CPU with a graphics card that can cost twice or even three times more than the processor. e.g Ryzen 5600 ($199) and a RTX 3060 Ti ($550) makes sense, however not the other way around.

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