Gaming PC Advice

Corvo on 04/03/2023 - 17:02
Last edited 05/03/2023 - 01:28 by 1 other user

Hi, I am looking forward to going in PC's gaming from this generation so I would like to have a setup that I don't need to update that soon. I have been trying to learn about the parts such as Intel and AMD CPU. Also, the graphics card as in the RTX series. I would really like to have a PC with better performance compared to the consoles for at least a few next generations. I started to look into PC part pickers and tried to make a setup as a new to this I would really like your advice on this.

Thanks for helping in advance and i really appreciate any feedback given :)

Games i usually play are fps such as FarCry, Dom Eternal, Atomic Heart. Third person such as Spiderman and Assassin's Creed and will also use the PC for emulation up to Nintendo Switch

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  • 7ekn00 on 04/03/2023 - 17:28
    +3

    I would really like to have a 4k 120fps with ray tracing in most of the games.

    Only option for anywhere close to that is a $AUD2800 RTX 4090 (and still won't hit 120FPS in some games)

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVd6wc

    That's US prices, multiply by 1.66 for AUD and Australia tax

    My budget is around 4k

    Won't get 4k @ 120p with Ray Tracing for anywhere near that, unless that is a USD budget (~$AUD6640)

    • RemoteMan213 on 04/03/2023 - 17:36
      +1

      That's US prices, multiply by 1.66 for AUD and Australia tax

      https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hVd6wc

    • Corvo on 04/03/2023 - 17:42

      Do you have any setup that would be able to hit 4k 120 and how much will it cost appox ?

      • WonMoreDollar on 04/03/2023 - 17:46
        +2

        You would need to tell everyone what games you play…. Even with 4090 some demanding games like cyberpunk don't hit 120hz with any existing graphics card in the market.

        • Corvo on 04/03/2023 - 17:48

          just updated thanks for the advice

      • Ultimate Gattai on 05/03/2023 - 17:46

        Looking at your games, I think it's going to be hard to hit your target, you'll need that 4090 which is about $3000 on it's own and it can't always hit that target (Assassin's Creed games for example aren't always well optimized when ported to PC). Personally I'd rather wait for another GPU gen or two for affordable 4K 120, especially if you want ray tracing too.

  • WonMoreDollar on 04/03/2023 - 17:38

    Yes, your current cost of parts is $5132.32 AUD. This is also not including your peripherals, table chair, mouse, keyboard and most importantly a 4k monitor to run this beast set up. A $4000 AUD budget is more suited to a 2k monitor set up and even that is pushing it if you need to buy everything from the beginning.

    • Corvo on 04/03/2023 - 17:43

      thanks just fixed the link

  • freefall101 on 04/03/2023 - 19:17
    +1

    IMO cheaping out on everything except the CPU and GPU is counterproductive, other parts matter too. The upgrade path of a Z690 is nowhere, this is the last CPU you'll buy for it and you have the annoyance of needing to flash it before using it.

    Get a better SSD, for starters. No reason not to spend a bit more on a 980 Pro or SN850/X because as once gaming supports directstorage you'll find a use for it. Also 1TB won't be enough for game storage, OS and whatever other bits and bobs. I'd get a 1TB boot drive and 2TB game drive, games are hitting 80GB these days.

    Might as well spend a little more on faster RAM, cas16 3600 at least. Will it do more than add 3-4 FPS in rare circumstances? No. Are you spending $5k on a computer and therefore might as well? Yes.

    • Corvo on 04/03/2023 - 19:58

      https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZjbX6r
      I updated it
      will this be better ? Thanks for the advice btw
      Also found out this prebuilt one is the prebuilt one any better ?
      https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/ready-to-run-pcs/gaming-…

      • WonMoreDollar on 04/03/2023 - 23:04
        -1

        A pre built is always going to cost more compared to building and buying your own parts. You'll have to decide if you want to put time and effort into picking parts or pay a premium on a pre built. You also have not added in if you are buying 1 or 2 monitors? Keyboard, mouse, chair, table? It's hard to reccomend parts because now you are way over your $4000 aud budget??? If you are going to play 4k single player fps games you also need a good monitor or monitors depending on your set up. And most likely the minimum you want is a 27inch 4k monitor 120hz and that's upwards from $500+.

        • Wicko on 05/03/2023 - 09:53
          +2

          That's not always true, there have been quite a few prebuilts posted recently that are better value than building them yourself.

      • OMGJL on 05/03/2023 - 01:53

        Scorptec Prebuild:

        CPU: Not bad, though not as good as 13700k.
        Mobo listed is definitely a wrong model (might be B650 Aorus Elite which is actually good)
        RAM: low speed crap. Might want to watch this
        GPU:no comment.
        SSD: QLC crap
        Case: no mesh no go

        summary: whoever made this list didn't care or have no real knowledge, and/or trying to squeeze every last dollar possible by using cheap rubbish part.

  • OMGJL on 05/03/2023 - 01:40
    +1

    CPU: No comment.
    SSD: No comment.

    Mobo: My advise is either cheap out and get MSI Z690 A Pro DDR4, or spend a bit more get a Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite DDR5.

    in terms of power delivery, almost every Z-class board is over engineered ATM, with Memory support, DDR4 is SO mature, so even the base model motherboard is perfectly capable, and Gigabyte/ASUS has the best DDR5 optimization, especially Gigabyte with their DDR5 sub-timing optimizer.

    RAM:
    Choice of DDR4
    Choice of DDR5
    You almost have no way to find a bad set of RAM(price aside) in my filtered list.
    (Don't get 4 sticks unless you know what you doing, you might run into heat tolerance issue or signal issue causing BSOD/Game Crash)

    WaterCooler:
    I haven't see Coolermaster ML series leaks recently, though years ago they have had a recall, moreover their Cooler performance is pretty average(note: I didn't say bad)
    May want to look at buying EK AIO/ Arctic Liquid Freezer, note Arctic coolers uses an extra thick radiator, and you want to factor another 5mm clearance.

    HDD:
    If you don't want to ditch HDD yet, get either WD Red/Seagate Ironwolf. Even though both have had SMR drama, but currently all new NAS drive should all be CMR, not crappy SMR.

    Case:
    No mesh no go. I've seen plenty of people run into the issue with : Hot GPU -> hot air raise -> RAM get heat up -> over ram temperature tolerance -> game crash all of the sudden.

    You might want to consider say Corsair 4000d / 5000d? Note: I didn't check GPU clearance, but I guess 4000D is a stretch and might not fit.

    PSU:
    PSU itself is good, but you may want to get yourself a decent quality PCIe5.0 Power Cable for your GPU, old power cable with adapter is so ugly and heavy.

    • Corvo on 05/03/2023 - 21:01

      Any specific reason for not commenting on the Cpu and gpu i just went with i7 and 4090 as i was advised by someone in harvey norman that i9 doesn't effect it that much Im just starting out and this is my first setup really appreciate any feedback!

      • OMGJL on 05/03/2023 - 22:05
        +2

        I don't comment because it looks good by me :)

        i7 vs i9 really means 4MB of L3 cache + few more e-cores.

        e-cores has almost nothing to do with gaming, 4MB L3 is not meaningful enough as a generational difference, especially if your game isn't those online games with 100+ players in the scene.

  • garetz on 05/03/2023 - 02:27

    You dont really need a 13700k for gaming, you are better off going for a 13600k and save some money
    If you are going to get a brand new system, you might as well go for ddr5 for future proofing, ddr5 ram has come down significantly in price.
    I would go for a lower supply 850 but higher platinum certification power supply for corsair, maybe look at a different brand like super flower.

    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/49568/super-flower-leade…
    1000 platinum with 7 years warranty for only $279

  • bjd533 on 05/03/2023 - 09:16
    +2

    Don't worry about 4k for gaming, massively overrated. Worry about screen size and quality, OLED HDR10+ @1440P is amazing and should get you at 165fps with a decent rig.

  • Soundwave on 06/03/2023 - 09:29

    Can I ask what the 4TB HDD will be used for? I'm assuming it would be for installing and running games but I just want to confirm first. Also will the 2TB M.2 be just used as the OS drive? Thanks.

  • xxBARGAINGODxx on 06/03/2023 - 10:12
    +1

    The most important advice in this situation is to think about how much money you want to spend on gaming over the next 10-20 years and use that to figure out roughly how frequently you want to upgrade and how much you want to spend. Wanting to make a purchase today that will be certain to stay ahead of console generations is a common purchasing mistake people make. As you go to higher and higher end equipment, you pay a bigger and bigger price for smaller and smaller performance gains. If you were to buy the absolute top-of-the-range system today (e.g., RTX 4090 + 13900KS), you are going to pay up to double what a similar performing system will cost in a year or two. The gaming industry tries to sell you on the idea that you should buy a cutting edge PC to play the latest titles immediately, but those games (aside from multiplayer games) are still going to be around in a few years, and you will be able to play them at higher resolutions and frame rates for less money if you just wait. There are thousands of great games you probably haven't played, why not start with those and then buy a mid-range PC in a few years which will blow today's top-of-the-range systems out of the water for a fraction of the cost?

  • GeneralStevis on 07/03/2023 - 18:44

    I just went nuts and bought a whole new system

    7950x, 64gb 5600mhz memory, aorus 4090 and a 34”QD oled Alienware monitor.

    Keep saving your cash til you can buy what you want.

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