Any Solution for Overheating CPU Temperature in New Gaming PC

LMaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 13:05

I bought this system from BPC deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/756747 in February 2023.

I checked the temperature of CPU (R5 5600) with Ultra settings in The Witcher 3. The CPU temperature hit 85 degrees Celsius in 20 minutes.

The system comes with a stock CPU cooler and a exhaust fan.

I am thinking of new CPU air cooler - Thermalright Assassin AX120 R SE ($28.90) and 3 extra case fan (uphere 120mm, $12.99) for 1 intake front and 2 exhaust top from Amazon.

Thermalright Assassin AX120 R SE: https://www.amazon.com.au/Thermalright-Refined-SE-Technology…

uphere 120mm Case Fan PWM 4PIN : https://www.amazon.com.au/uphere-Cooling-Coolers-Radiators-N…

This is my first gaming PC, I would appreciate any advice. I am trying not to over-spending, maybe look at budget $50 if possible but open to better and value option too. Thanks!

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  • stemcell on 18/03/2023 - 13:07

    I'd be buying the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE if it was me for $54 on Amazon, make sure it'll fit in the case first.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:13

      Thanks. That's actually on my fan list too :)
      I was hoping for any insight if the base model is enough for the job.

  • Shoocat on 18/03/2023 - 13:12
    +1

    Stretch your budget if you can and go an AIO water cooled kit with a large (240mm+) radiator setup. You'll never look back, trust me.

    Better cooling, much easier to clean the fans than something bolted to the CPU, and much quieter due to the larger fan sizes.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:16

      Thanks. AIO water cooled kit is definitely the best option :) I will keep that in mind.

      • lew380 on 19/03/2023 - 15:51

        Although water has some merits on the high end, air is just simpler, easier to install, and will last forever essentially. In terms of performance it's hard to find a clear winner but for what you pay for, air is usually significantly better. Especially for a 5600 for gaming, you don't need cutting edge cooling, it's a simple task.

    • Gekov on 19/03/2023 - 16:14

      "much quieter due to the larger fan sizes"

      Better still ditch all the fans and enjoy blissful silence!

      You can order SILENT PC builds from https://quietpc.com.au/sys-a90-i17

      I'm currently in the process of building my own SILENT PC.

      All parts have been delivered aside from the motherboard which arrives Tuesday.

      The build consists of …

      Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact Lite Black TG Light Tint CASE with fans removed

      ASUS Prime Z790-P WiFi LGA 1700(Intel® 13th &12th Gen) ATX Motherboard (PCIe 5.0,DDR5,14+1 Power Stages,3X M.2,WiFi 6,Bluetooth v5.2,2.5Gb LAN, Front

      Intel Core i7-13700 Processor 30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz

      CORSAIR HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low Noise ATX Digital Power Supply (Three EPS12V Connectors, Zero RPM Mode, 80 Plus Platinum Efficiency) Black , FAN DOES NOT KICK IN UNTIL AT LEAST 500W POWER BEING USED.

      Noctua NH-P1 Passive CPU Cooler

      Kingston Fury Beast Black Expo DDR5 16GB (2x8GB) 5200MT/s DDR5 CL36 DIMM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit with 2 - KF552C36BBEK2-16

      Samsung MZ-V8P500BW 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive, 500 GB Capacity Black

      Total cost about $2000, all bought from Amazon.

      With a bit luck, I'll be up and running next weekend!

      My current PC, which I've had for quite a few years now, is also extremely quiet (as good as silent!), but does have a couple of slowly rotating (virtually inaudible) fans.
      It's getting a bit long in the tooth, so I'm upgrading to COMPLETELY SILENT AND BETTER PERFORMANCE..

      The power supply fan has not activated since I got it so that's silent..
      It's a Corsair RM650 in an Antec SOLO II PC Case.

      Wish me luck with build.

      • MaOptAus on 19/03/2023 - 16:59

        Sounds amazing! Good luck! :D

      • dukeGR4 on 19/03/2023 - 19:33

        "FAN DOES NOT KICK IN UNTIL AT LEAST 500W POWER BEING USED.FAN DOES NOT KICK IN UNTIL AT LEAST 500W POWER BEING USED."

        How do i pick cases with features like that?

        • Gekov on 19/03/2023 - 20:10

          "How do i pick cases with features like that?"

          That statement referred to the power supply fan, not the case.

          Here's a review of the EFFECTIVELY FANLESS Corsair HX1000i power supply
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YHTRBsJRDA

          For better fanless operation, you need a well ventilated case like the Fractal Design Meshify 2 case mentioned above.
          Here's a review.
          https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fractal-design-meshify-…

          I've removed the bottom air filter and front/back fans which would be obstructing passive air flow.

          I might even remove the top air filter and the left side glass panel after I've evaluated cooling performance of the build next weekend.

          With no fans, dust accumulation is not a problem, so everything can be open to natural airflow.

          Fingers crossed for my PC build next weekend!

          • Gekov on 20/03/2023 - 09:28

            @Gekov: That case review I listed is for the full size Meshify case.

            I'm using the compact version.

            The full size is a bit of overkill for me.

        • Gekov on 20/03/2023 - 09:26

          "How do i pick cases with features like that?"

          Lots of hints on building a silent PC here … including cases.

          https://quietpc.com.au/sys-a90-i17

          • Gekov on 20/03/2023 - 16:17

            @Gekov: Interesting that Noctua themsleves singled out the Meshify Case I'm using as

            "Case offers excellent passive cooling performance"

            Not surprising coz the case has an open structure optimising the free flow of cooling air, which is why I chose it for my passive cooling setup.

            https://ncc.noctua.at/cases/model/Fractal-Design-Meshify-2-C…

  • duk242 on 18/03/2023 - 13:18
    +4

    85C is totally OK.

    Over 95C is when things are not so peachy. The CPU will boost/overclock itself a little bit when it's running cool enough, then slow itself down when it starts to get too hot.

    Anything is better than the stock cooler though, I'm an AIO water cooling sort of guy, but air coolers are fine too!

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:18

      That's great to know that 85C is fine. Perth weather is quite cooling right now, but it will hit 35C next week. I will run the test again in hotter weather.
      Would you say 93C for 5600 is still fine? I read that anything above 90C is bad for CPU in long term.

      • greatlamp on 18/03/2023 - 18:37
        +2

        Some board components have thermal limits of around 105 C, hence CPU throttling is programmed at 100 C.

        Any degradation you will see won't be noticeable until long after the CPU is obsolete, unless the CPU fan noise is bothering you, you don't need to do anything. Literally every laptop runs temperatures this high, all day, for years.

        Personally I would do what you are already thinking, a $30 air cooler and some additional case fans. Even if you flip your one case fan around and make it an intake fan instead of exhaust you will already get improvements

        An AIO is definitely NOT worth it, the largest air coolers (think Noctua D15 size) outperform a 240mm AIO and are much cheaper. For a 6 core CPU you don't need anything close to that size.

      • xylarr on 19/03/2023 - 12:33

        By definition, until you CPU starts thermally throttling, it isn't too hot.
        From memory, this happens at 95 or 105 degrees C - people more knowledgeable than me can chime in.

        Of course, lower is generally better - better for general component life - but lowering temps from where you are won't necessarily get you any performance gains.

        The other thing is, if you truly want to max out your temps, try running Prime95 and select the 2nd option from the top in the torture test: Small FFTs. I have a big ass-cooler on my rig (air cooled) and it tops out at 88 when running this. Compare this to running something like Cinebench, and it only reaches 75.

  • kipps on 18/03/2023 - 13:18
    +3

    The CPU temperature hit 85 degrees Celsius in 20 minutes.

    This is considered normal now. Even if you get good cooling the CPU will push temps this high.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:19

      Thanks for your input. Yes, I read that R5000 series tends to push temps very high. Would you say below 95C is fine too?

      • duk242 on 18/03/2023 - 14:22
        +1

        Yep. 85-95C is hot, but not too hot.
        95-100C is too hot but not dead yet
        100C is danger zone (it'll shut itself down somewhere around 100-105C)

        Ideally though, 85C is about where you want it to be under full load.

  • scrimshaw on 18/03/2023 - 13:19
    +1

    Thermalright Assassin - Most people seem to think it's a good cooler for the price. Steve seems to agree.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/ullnwh/gn_ultra_c…

    This version seems to perform a little better than the Assassin X 120 R SE
    https://www.amazon.com.au/Thermalright-Assassin-Heatpipes-Te…

    upHere fans — fine considering their extremely low price but if you can afford it the Arctic P12's are a good quality fan that won't break the bank. You can grab them for roughly $12 each but may be cheaper when bought as a value pack

    As others have alluded 85 degrees is actually not abnormal temperature for a CPU under load. Ryzen CPU's constantly regulates itself based on temps, changing voltages and frequencies to ensure that it only maxes out at a certain temperature. However, having a better cooler does give it extra thermal headroom to work with, allowing it to overclock (a standard AMD feature called Performance Boost Overdrive) to hit higher frequencies more often and for longer periods of time.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:24

      Great advice and suggestions on alternative parts :D

      I did not know Ryzen CPU has the ability to self-regulate. I learned new things today.

      I will run the test again next week in a hotter weather to see how much the CPU can push the temps.

  • Devastator0 on 18/03/2023 - 13:20
    +1

    So, if you want to keep to something super reliable, stick to an air cooler, but also too a budget, check out this, Snowman CPU Cooler. A friend of mine picked up one of these a little while ago, he was on a budget too, and it shocked him at how well it performed, he told me he was very happy with the purchase given the price.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:28
      +1

      Yes, that's on my fan list too. It was recommended in this channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZMqtu70OUE.

      Snowman CPU cooler definitely an ultra budget option for me to consider. Just need to cope with the long delivery time frame and hope it is not lost during delivery.

      • Devastator0 on 18/03/2023 - 16:32

        hahaha yeah, I saw it on Tech Yes originally and because Brian recommended it so highly, I thought it would be the perfect solution in your case.

  • GordonD on 18/03/2023 - 13:24
    +4

    Don't panic. Stop Worrying. AMD's spec sheet for the R5 5600 says max temp is 95C. The stock cooler is designed to generate enough cooling to keep it below that. And if it can't the chip will throttle itself.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:29

      Thank you, that's very good advice and also very reassuring :)

  • Hellfire on 18/03/2023 - 13:53

    Repaste. Good chance that you will see an improvement. Bought PCs are notorious for having a poor job done on the thermal paste.

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:35

      That's true, but I can't check it unless I remove the CPU.

      If that's the case, then I would replace the CPU cooler and repaste it.

  • ToyotaCrownHybrid on 18/03/2023 - 14:16

    I have the same CPU, stock cooler and don't get temps anywhere near that high…

    • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 14:36

      Could be the case (Deepcool macube 110). It lacks airflow from the front.

      and also GPU, I have RTX 6750 XT.

      • ToyotaCrownHybrid on 18/03/2023 - 15:01

        I'd check airflow to see if it's pulling/pushing air efficiently, I dropped about 15 degrees by changing my 3 fans directions

        • MaOptAus on 18/03/2023 - 15:09

          Mine only has 1 exhaust fan, that's probably why. lol

          • iamherenow on 18/03/2023 - 21:30
            +1

            @MaOptAus: your airflow will be awful. I'm surprised your gpu temps aren't bothering you too.

            Uphere isn't good. I tried and removed straight away. get arctic instead. A 5 pack (for around $50) will do 3 front two top for a cheap upgrade.

  • AustriaBargain on 18/03/2023 - 15:11
    +1

    85 degrees is fine isn't it? It's only newer ARM chips that don't run that hot, but for 20th century style PCs it's totally normal.

    • mattyman on 19/03/2023 - 18:53

      GPU is normal. Not CPU.

  • AustriaBargain on 18/03/2023 - 16:48
    +2

    A better reason to update the cooler is if the fan noise is bothering you.

  • Nalar on 18/03/2023 - 17:01
    +1

    Same CPU/GPU, I went with https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cooler-master-hyper-212-cpu…
    More expensive but it'll be used for 3+years so worth the spend.

  • dstar012 on 18/03/2023 - 19:12
    -4

    A solution is not to play computer games as they are for children

    • mattyman on 19/03/2023 - 18:52

      Don't be a dick.

  • Dslrfirst on 19/03/2023 - 09:21

    Too many tautologies such as "overheating …temperature" may be the cause.

  • mattyman on 19/03/2023 - 18:52

    Did you remember to peel the plastic cover off the cooler when you installed it?

    • MaOptAus on 19/03/2023 - 19:34

      It is pre-built gaming pc from the BPC deal.

  • ab c on 17/07/2023 - 14:11
    +1

    Problem fixed ?

    Just add 3 INtake fans & observe the temp. of the WHOLE-system.
    Note: the BOTTOM INtake fan feed air to the bottom-chamber: your PSU need airflows also-> https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/dlm21black-darkflash-dlm2…
    If the above is not enough, then beef-up your cooling further.

    May be you should have,
    1. read my comments @ that deal-> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/756747?page=1#comment
    2. done your homework.

    ALL-sellers prey on novice-buyers like yourself & often offer products that is 'not fit for purpose'.
    I noticed BPC wrote on his deal '…(Extra ARGB fans option available)'
    It should have been '…(MUST upgrade to 3 INtake-fans & 1 exhaust-fan)'
    May be you have a tight-budget & hope for the best ?

    If continue as is, the WHOLE system will have a shorter life due to POOR-airflows-> GPU, PSU, Mobo, RAM, SSD & CPU. Your system is being fried & blue/black screen is too late: assuming you want your system to have the best-chance to see its 4th birthday.
    Don't reply on system thermal-control…you must monitor your system's temp. & wattage: consider HWinfo64 S/W.

    People buy 6750XT OC 12GB | i3-12100F to do hardwork & heat is a by product. This need GOOD-airflows to take the heat out of the system.

    If you have a HIGHER room temp., it's most likely that the CPU will thermal throttle.

    Welcome to gaming-PC cooling 101.

    By now, you should be able to work out which of the above commenters are gamers.

    Do help others… just like you're being help here.

    Happy gaming.

    • MaOptAus on 17/07/2023 - 15:19

      Thanks ab c! Yes it is fixed.
      I replaced the stock cpu cooler to ThermalAssasin King, and installed 4x PWM fan cooler. Now, CPU temperature never passed 60 degree.

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