Recommended Networking Setup for Two Storey House

Hey all,
Looking for some recommendations on how to get internet around the home.

We just moved into a duplex in Sydney and I realised the NBN connection box was installed into the garage of all places. There is only one door and it opens right into the main doorway so no way I can get an ethernet cable there.

I thought about getting a professional to wire ethernet through the walls so I can place our wireless router in the kitchen but it still doesnt help with getting internet upstairs.

Some people mentioned Mesh Wifi or Powerline systems. Not sure which path to go down.
We are in a duplex so not sure if that affects the Powerline.

TLDR: Moved into new home. NBN connection in garage. Patchy WiFi everywhere. Need to get internet upstairs.

Poll Options

  • 14
    Mesh Wifi
  • 0
    Powerline
  • 32
    Sell my kidney and get ethernet wired throughout the house

Comments

  • +1

    So to clarify and get more info…

    The router is in the garage right now, and everywhere, both upstairs and downstairs, has patchy WiFi? Or is it patchy everywhere downstairs and not working at all upstairs?

    Regardless, the theoretically ideal config in most two story scenarios is wired back-haul mesh system, with hard wired points upstairs and downstairs (possibly multiple each story depending on the area of the premises), with a pro obviously doing the wiring to suit (exactly how they wire it depends on your house layout and your preferences for where you put the network switch to tie it all together - if you're paying for this extra points you may need are cheaper to do in one hit usually than added later, but that's all up to you)

    Mesh without being hard wired relies on the WiFi signal, so if it is crap due to walls blocking it now then a mesh system (or worse, those WiFi extenders) ain't gonna work with WiFi back-haul. The dedicated WiFi back-haul channels can help, but they don't create miracles.

    Powerline Ethernet can be a work around cheaper than getting the place wired, but you need the expensive ones to get decent speed out of it, and it very much depends on your house wiring as to where you can put the powerline outlets. If upstairs and downstairs are on different circuits you're out of luck. If you know someone that has one to borrow to test, it would be a good idea before buying one and finding out you can't use it.

    In theory the two halves of a duplex should be totally separate, otherwise you'd be racking up each other's power bills, so that should be irrelevant to powerline, unless it was a single house split in half and done in a dodgy way. If it was built as a duplex initially you should in theory be fine.

    Regardless of anything else, as the first step I'd advise getting a long cable just to test things out and simulate having paid someone to shift your router location.

    Relocate the router - try multiple locations if you can - to see if paying someone to do the proper wiring job to move the router itself will even help that much. It may fix only downstairs or it may fix everything if you're lucky.

    If you have an RSP provided router with weaker WiFi and this fixes downstairs and makes upstairs kind of ok, a single good quality replacement router might be the fix rather than a mesh system. Likewise getting upstairs kind of ok with your current router might make a dedicated back-haul channel mesh system viable, but it is impossible to know without trying.

    Hope this helps. No-one can give you a definitive guaranteed fix other than the sell a kidney option without checking out the house themselves.

    • So…
      NBN box (black little box for HFC connection) is located in the garage.

      Tried to plug Belong supplied router and the wifi is patchy everywhere. Only the TV gets good Wifi due to being next to the garage.

      Good tips you have. I might spend some time moving the router around and messing around with powerline to test some options.

  • +2

    3 mesh wifi stations with ethernet backbone (chained together), one in garage, one at middle of ground floor, one middle 2nd floor

    or if you want even better buy 5, 1 garage, 2 ground floor at opposite ends, same for upstairs

    ETHERNET BACKBONE IS ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO GO

    • This is my go to plan when people ask at work. Ethernet outlet per floor if multi level house. Ethernet to study/game pc room and ethernet to any tv room. Each drop add a mesh wifi.

  • +2

    I recently did a job, exact same situation. Duplex in Sydney.

    Spent hours there (as wired wasn’t an option).

    NBN in garage. Probably the worst possibly location you can put it. Chances are the switch board is near it, probably double brick in the garage… going to have interference with wifi to begin with if you run mesh.

    If possible wired!

    In the end to get wifi across your house you’ll end up probably spending $400 minimum. You’ll need the main node in the garage and then probably another unit down stairs (possibly 2) and then 1 or 2 upstairs… that’s 5 triband mesh units… sell a kidney right there.

    Probably similar cost to run cable to be honest.

    Make a nice shelf in the garage, attach a Telstra Gen 2 modem. $40-$50.

    Run a cable into 2 spots upstairs, 2 downstairs. Grab 4 more rooted Telstra modems $50 as wifi boosters.
    Boom… WIFI. Now tell me that isn’t worth $650 right there. Solid wifi throughout. (Hoping the wiring is $400 and Telstra modems x5 at $50).

    The other selling point of the Telstra modems is that they will have 4 point lan points. You will be able to wire up 4 devices at the new setup point.

    • Appreciate your info.

      I am currently with Belong and we have a crappy router that was included.

      I was thinking of getting a few ethernet cables run through the walls.

      • The NBN NCD connection box will stay in the garage.
      • Get ethernet run through the wall to the opposite side (into the living room)
      • Get an aftermarket better router so there is good wifi coverage everywhere downstairs.
      • Get another ethernet run upstairs into the main study room (where I work from home)

      I think this would be the best option without a tonne of boosters/cable runs everywhere?

  • Do you own the home or are you renting?

  • Google mesh kit. You’re welcome.

  • You can get a mesh system for $100 that will tell you quickly if that is adequate. My bet is it will be, unless you have nbn over 100mbps.
    People running home servers to distribute 8k video etc. push the limits of wireless, Internet under 100mbps doesn’t.

    There are more costly mesh systems, with more features you might consider later, if the signal is fine with a cheap mesh setup.
    If the signal remains poor with a cheap mesh unit, the costlier ones won’t be big improvements, and you will have to look at wired.

    • I'm happy to go with mesh system since it'll work for everyone, although for my main PC I really prefer hard wired ethernet as I go through a lot of downloads/uploads for work and I've never had much luck with wifi.

  • Mesh or powerline. It will really depend on specific use cases, electrical circuit layout, house construction.

    Try one, if it doesn't work then you'll have to try the other.

    Mesh with wireless backbone has the advantage of simplicity, the disadvantages of more variable latency (could be a big deal if gaming or streaming), more likely to have cutouts. Avoid Google gear as it's designed for the lowest common denominator. Avoid Linksys, it has a terrible UI and is close to impossible to troubleshoot.

    Powerline and wireless access points- won't work or won't work well if the units are on different circuits. Upside is that if it works, you'll have very stable bandwidth and low latency inside the house.

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