Uber Eats Sets Dates to Ban Petrol Cars, Plastic Waste from Deliveries

whyisave on 08/06/2023 - 22:08
Last edited 09/06/2023 - 09:56 by 1 other user

Uber Eats sets dates to ban petrol cars, plastic waste from deliveries

In a move that mirrors Uber’s pledge to phase out combustion-engine vehicles from its global ride-hailing fleet by 2040, all couriers on the Uber Eats app will be required to make deliveries using only emissions-free vehicles by 2040, too.

The tens of thousands of Australian restaurants on Uber Eats, meanwhile, will have until 2030 to cease using unnecessary plastic utensils and packaging from deliveries made through the app to address the harmful impact of single-use plastic on the environment.

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askbargain on 08/06/2023 - 22:14

+1

get angry at something 17 years later?
- whyisave on 08/06/2023 - 22:34
  
  +2
  
  Corporate power can drive agenda change [ESG], in 'sovereign nations'.
AustriaBargain on 08/06/2023 - 22:18

This is good, but by 2040 governments will probably already have banned almost all petrol cars anyway. Same with plastic waste by 2030. But still good. Would make ordering Uber Eats a more environmentally sound decision than driving your own petrol car to the shop. Look at the pace of technology increase. In just one year in early 2007 to early 2008 we went from no iPhones to suddenly having iPhones, with that race of technological increase we should have hoverboards and AI by now.
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 11:48
  
  +2
  
  by 2040 governments will probably already have banned almost all petrol cars anyway.
  
  It’s likely they’ll have banned new petrol car sales by then, they are targeting 2035. But it’ll take longer to phase them out because of the legacy of used cars.
vodamerc on 08/06/2023 - 22:20

+11

Uber loves to set these rules while increasing their commissions leaving the drivers and restaurants to pay for it. Their virtue signalling is in no ones best interest.
- whyisave on 08/06/2023 - 22:35
  
  +5
  
  It's like the 'wrong people' are using the 'right reasons' to do the 'wrong things''.
plmko on 08/06/2023 - 22:24

+4

This is like Marlboro announcing smoke free only to move into vapes.
- coffeeinmyveins on 08/06/2023 - 23:45
  
  +3
  
  No, this would be like Malboro saying they are moving into vapes……in 17 years
  - altomic on 09/06/2023 - 13:54
    
    +1
    
    "I'm not going to murder anyone after 2040" - Jeffrey Dahmer
Wiadro on 08/06/2023 - 23:16

+3

if you think there will be no ICE cars in 2040 you are silly
there's not enough electricity in the world to power only EV's
- coffeeinmyveins on 08/06/2023 - 23:45
  
  If you think you can make any predictions about what happens in 27 years then you are silly
  - Wiadro on 09/06/2023 - 00:02
    
    +1
    
    I agree I’m a silly sausage
    - whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 01:06
      
      +1
      
      I thought sausages can only be 1 flavour:
      Democracy
    - coffeeinmyveins on 09/06/2023 - 14:31
      
      You're a smart silly sausage, I'll give ya that.
  - cookie2 on 09/06/2023 - 02:29
    
    +2
    
    17 years. And ofcourse predictions can be made, if there is evidence to support.
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 11:51
  
  There will be a nice surplus of electricity if we stop refining oils. I heard that about half ocean fright is fossil fuels. So we’re using a whole heap of energy just to move our energy source around let alone extracting and refining it.
coffeeinmyveins on 08/06/2023 - 23:44

+6

This is virtue signalling at it's absolute finest.

Not only is there a large probability that Uber doesn't exist in 17 years, but this is a promise that doesn't do anything for the climate change situation now.
- vodamerc on 08/06/2023 - 23:46
  
  +5
  
  And best of all, they don't have to pay for it! The drivers do…
  - whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 01:09
    
    -3
    
    Yes, and Biden's infrastructure bill (from 2021? or 2022?) says that all cars
    from 2026 (or 2027?) must have a remote kill-switch,
    ie. the government and/or authorities can kill the car's operations for whatever reasons.
    
    So, Uber or anyone, could (in theory) turn off any car with the internet connection,
    should they breach or deviate from any policy.
    - pegaxs on 09/06/2023 - 03:40
      
      +2
      
      Hahaha, well that is bullshit. A kill switch on all cars.
      
      Took all of a 5 second Google search to find out thst this “kill switch” isn’t a think, it was just something made up by some MAGA hat wearing idiot to whip up a frenzy in the simple minded “mUh RiGhTz!!” community.
      
      “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” - Abraham Lincoln, 1654.
      - whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 03:55
        
        -1
        
        @pegaxs:
        
        Took all of a 5 second Google search to find out
        
        Being quick to use 'their calibrated tools',
        mean they can guide you exactly where they want you.
        
        If I know the specific word you'll search for, I can avoid that word itself,
        so you will never find it, and you are none the wiser, while I can continue to hide in plain sight:
        eg. if you CTRL+F for "sugar" on some food labels you won't get a hit for "refined cane water".
        
        .
        Law Will Install Kill Switches In All New Cars
        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/scienceandtechnology/new-law-…
        
        Buried In Biden's Infrastructure Bill Is A Mandatory Backdoor Kill Switch For Your Car
        https://hothardware.com/news/bidens-infrastructure-bill-mand…
        
        Here's the bill,…
        (not that I read it, haha)
        
        H.R.3684 - U.S. Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
        https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3684…
        
        You will get zero hits on "kill switch" or "shutoff".
        Search for "disable" and you get four hits.
        However, there is a provision for requiring the vehicle to detect and limit or disable the ability of a drunk to drive.
        So, it depends on how/what this means,
        and when this will come to effect.
        
        pegaxs on 09/06/2023 - 10:21
        
        +5
        
        @whyisave: Lol… I think your tin foil hat is on to tight…
        
        So, in the link you posted to the congress bill, claiming that there are 4 references to the word "disable", I went and looked them up…
        
        1:
        
        (B) in paragraph (6)(A), by inserting "affordable housing organizations,'' after "disabled,'';
        
        2:
        
        (E) to pilot and incentivize measures, including optical visibility measures, to increase the visibility of stopped and disabled vehicles.
        
        3:
        
        (1) Assault on a transit worker.—The term `assault on a transit worker' means a circumstance in which an individual knowingly, without lawful authority or permission, and with intent to endanger the safety of any individual, or with a reckless disregard for the safety of human life, interferes with, disables, or incapacitates a transit worker while the transit worker is performing the duties of the transit worker.
        
        4:
        
        B) in paragraph (6)(A), by inserting "affordable housing organizations,'' after "disabled,''
        
        You literally did not read what the references were to the word "disabled" in that bill and just did a text search for a single word?? It shows.
        
        You know what isnt mentioned at all?? "remote access". Zero hits on that bill.
        
        As for the remote shutdown of your vehicle by government or law enforcement;
        Snopes says it is bullshit.
        USA Today says it is false.
        AFP FactCheck says it's misleading
        AP News says garbage…
        Verify This lists it as misleading.
        
        You need to stop getting your news from nut job conspiracy theory websites or from wackjob idiots like Ted Nugent and Kevin Sorbo…
        
        SBOB on 09/06/2023 - 10:31
        
        +1
        
        @pegaxs:
        
        As for the remote shutdown of your vehicle by government or law enforcement;
        
        yeah but they are all just 'their calibrated tools', aimed to misdirect you from the truth :)
        The truth that seemingly doesn't actually exist in the bill, but that doesn't matter, as click-bait consuming rage end users wont actually spend the 5 mins and 'Ctrl+f' to see if they are being click-bait raged or not..
        
        pegaxs on 09/06/2023 - 10:37
        
        +1
        
        @SBOB: This is absolutely 100% unadulterated rage fuel. It is designed as nothing more than than to whip the right wing MAGA hat wearing nut jobs into a frenzy… And I think @whyisave said it best when they said they didn't actually read any of the links they posted and just went off the reservation on some wild tangent…
        
        Anyway, for anyone that does give a shit, I sorted out the bill and found the part all the conspiracy theory juggernauts have got their panties in a twist over…
        
        If you want to go to the section that talks about what they are legislating, you can do a "find on page" search for "SEC. 24220." and that will take you directly to the section for what the nut jobs are freaking out about.
        
        It is about basically installing alcohol interlock devices into cars. And considering the low IQ and excessive alcohol consumption of most right wing nut jobs, they should be worried about this bill. They might just have to drive sober…
        
        whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 16:30
        
        @pegaxs:
        
        It is about basically installing alcohol interlock devices into cars.
        
        Exactly.
        
        It's mentioned:
        
        (5) to ensure the prevention of alcohol-impaired driving
        fatalities, advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention
        technology must be standard equipment in all new passenger motor
        vehicles.
        
        So, if all cars in the future will need to be EV,
        and EV cars have internet connectivity,
        by extension, the interlocking device in the car,
        could be used for other reasons,…as knowing governments,
        will always expand a capability.
        
        It's like the CSAM reason being used as the reason for Apple to scan all phones' private images, etc.
        
        The reasons are so good that there's no argument against it,
        and they know this, so only time will tell how slow frogs are boiled.
        
        whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 16:34
        
        @SBOB:
        
        The truth that seemingly doesn't actually exist in the bill
        
        See this
        
        whyisave on 09/06/2023 - 16:25
        
        +1
        
        @pegaxs:
        
        So, in the link you posted to the congress bill, claiming that there are 4 references to the word "disable", I went and looked them up…
        
        When I said there are 'four hits' for a certain word,
        I was making the point, that CTRL+F and quick searches
        are not only the way to look for things.
        I was not interested in the word 'disable' either, haha.
        
        Hence, I used the conjecture - "However…" after that statement,
        to explain what was construed to be the remote switch,
        ie. there's a provision for allowing a remote way to
        to disable vehicles to prevent drink-driving.
        
        This can always be expanded, once it's implemented,
        but not much detail is in there now (to prevent uproar?).
        
        As for the remote shutdown of your vehicle by government or law enforcement;
        Snopes(snopes.com) says it is bullshit.
        USA Today(usatoday.com) says it is false.
        AFP FactCheck(factcheck.afp.com) says it's misleading
        AP News(apnews.com) says garbage…
        Verify This(verifythis.com) lists it as misleading.
        
        Ministry of Truth.
        
        coffeeinmyveins on 09/06/2023 - 14:32
        
        +4
        
        @whyisave:
        
        Here's the bill,…
        (not that I read it, haha)
        
        Yeah, that's clear.
        
        Name a more iconic duo - MAGA nuts and not reading anything.
      - franco cozzo on 09/06/2023 - 06:03
        
        @pegaxs: just like US residents cant have their thermostats on their air conditioning adjusted remotely to save power…..oh wait they can!
        ….when everything is 'digital' it is controllable. this is not a conspiracy ….
        
        SBOB on 09/06/2023 - 07:18
        
        +2
        
        @franco cozzo: You do know load shedding on electrical grids is a common thing.
        It's generally used by heavy business elec users, who often get paid to drop usage (yep, big $ on offer to high users to drop usage at a moment's notice to reduce grid consumption), but there are places where it's available to consumers to enrol in and reduce usage and get paid for it.
        
        AGL do it via offering a few bucks at random times to reduce power during certain windows.
        
        Peak smart is a trial going on in parts of Australia to do similar automated air conditioner ramp downs of shut offs in critical load times.
        
        Everyone with an off peak meter has the some thing, it's just explicitly a different circuit in your house.
        
        They are all opt in , and generally if used properly, can benefit the end user financially (at the cost of planning your elec usage or pre heating/cooling planning)
        
        pegaxs on 09/06/2023 - 10:23
        
        +1
        
        @franco cozzo: The source for that news piece is "some dude on Reddit and a few people he knows…" FFS :D
- AustriaBargain on 09/06/2023 - 02:10
  
  I wonder how much Uber would cost for Musk to buy. Musk talked big about a self driving revolution not too long ago..
  - Baysew on 09/06/2023 - 09:51
    
    Current market cap @ $81 Billion + 30% take over Premium = $105 Billion.
    
    Also,Uber has posted hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in losses each year since 2014 except for 2018.
orangetrain on 09/06/2023 - 00:43

+1

In a move that mirrors Uber’s pledge to phase out combustion-engine vehicles
from its global ride-hailing fleet by 2040, all couriers on the Uber Eats app
will be required to make deliveries using only emissions-free vehicles by 2040, too.

TIL, Uber has a global ride-hailing fleet. I thought they had outsourced the driving to a bunch of contractors?
pegaxs on 09/06/2023 - 03:32

+3

Until 2040…. Lol. Why not 2050 or 2060? Seems like an open ended marketing stunt to me.
Brian McGee on 09/06/2023 - 07:55

-1

There are ~1million new vehicle sales each year
Last year there were ~100000 new electric vehicles sold (10%)
The Australian light vehicle fleet is ~10million.
So good luck with that Uber.
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 11:55
  
  Current EV sales are skewed because we don’t have much supply. Until not very long ago you had a choice of half a dozen models. Limited Supply of EVs sold out in minutes.
  
  EV market share is only going to increase as we get more variants available and more stock delivered. EV market share in Norway is like 80%. We are an EV backwater.
  
  Yes, is Aussies like our ICE and ICE is dominant but plenty of people want an EV and just can’t get them.
DashCam AKA Rolts on 09/06/2023 - 08:18

+2

Save a lot of angst, just ban Uber.
RockyRaccoon on 09/06/2023 - 08:35

2040?

And after 17 years of conning everyone, they take their profits and soak up the sun in their luxury fossil fuelled yacht on the Riviera

Why 2040? Ah Yes, we plucked that out of some chickens backside. Scientifically why not 2039 or 2041? Magically its rounded off?
- [Deactivated] on 09/06/2023 - 11:03
  
  Ah Yes, we plucked that out of some chickens backside
  
  Maybe Uber practice ornithomancy?
87percent on 09/06/2023 - 09:22

i find it funny that when you go somewhere like McDonalds and get a drink, and you say "no straw needed", they look at you like you're speaking another language
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 11:58
  
  Yep. But why can’t their paper straws last long enough to finish a drink? Surely there’s better biodegradable products that will last a couple of hours in liquid before becoming useless.
  - bobwokeup on 09/06/2023 - 12:11
    
    Honestly though, who takes a couple of hours to finish a cold drink?
    - Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 13:04
      
      Precisely. If the straw lasts for an hour it’d be more than enough. Current straws go soggy half way through your drink.
      - bobwokeup on 09/06/2023 - 13:52
        
        @Euphemistic: Oh must be that type of straw. The ones we’ve used last a hour or two.
- bobwokeup on 09/06/2023 - 12:10
  
  I hear you…I use a metal straw at home and if I'm staying out I will use the one in the car. I also have backup reusable coffee cups and have to tell staff to put it in there. The local store is used to it now but it's not common unfortunately.
USER DC on 09/06/2023 - 10:54

Only going to make the life of drivers difficult, But on the flipside hopefully it will result in reduced gas powered car prices
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 11:59
  
  How will it make the life of drivers difficult? By th e time their pie in the sky ban date approaches the majority of our fleet will be electric anyway.
djsweet on 09/06/2023 - 10:56

Lol what is this. Whats the point of setting targets that are going to be moot by the time they come into effect anyway. Virtue signalling at its finest. Uber can get wrecked for all I care. Dirtbag organisation trying to make themselves look good. Anyways, I've never seen any UE restaurants provide "unnecessary plastic utensils". Utensils are usually required for eating and, therefore, usually necessary.
- Euphemistic on 09/06/2023 - 12:01
  
  Do they always send out utensils when home delivering? Lots of houses already have utensils. You only need plastic stuff if your takeaway food is being eaten somewhere away from a house.
- bobwokeup on 09/06/2023 - 14:33
  
  Actually given they are usually sent to your home that should never be required, better to use your utensils at home.
  
  Plus single use plastic is being phased out for environmental reasons and hence why decisions like EV are also made.

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