New Report on Speed Camera Data in NSW

RockyRaccoon on 17/07/2023 - 19:43
Last edited 17/07/2023 - 19:43

https://www.drive.com.au/news/nsw-speed-camera-fines-signs-i…

Summary:-

Speed cameras in NSW.

People still getting caught even though the have reintroduced warning signs and also a notice after the speed camera has been passed.

Although the number caught has dropped from one in every 311 motorists passing a mobile speed camera location in May and June 2022, to one in every 1663 motorists in May and June this year.

Interesting is the following para's directly quoted.

However, police sources who closely monitor road fatality statistics say the "10km/h over" message only tells part of the story and in fact drugs, alcohol, failing to wear a seatbelt, and unsafe and unregistered cars account for the overwhelming majority of fatal crashes, many of which occurred within the 10km/h speed range.

"You've got to look beyond that 10km/h message," the confidential source told Drive. "The government is being very selective in how they are using that statistic. If they were being honest with the motoring public they would acknowledge the real menaces on our roads are impaired drivers and recidivist offenders, not mums and dads getting busted a few (kilometres per hour) over the limit."

Automotive

Comments

Gdsamp on 17/07/2023 - 20:01

Good for NSW.

In Perth it's just about every day that someone has a crash on what is a relatively straight and uncomplicated freeway network (city interchange notwithstanding).
Speed cameras might discourage some from having a more severe crash, but it's mobile hphone use and other distracted driving that causes the frequent, frustrating, road-blocking crashes. I'm all for an expansion of the mobile hphone detection cameras. Speed cameras are pure revenue raising.
- chcse on 17/07/2023 - 21:08
  
  +1
  
  Yup, I got rear ended in traffic last week because the person was looking down on their phone. These are also the people that keep driving up car insurance premiums too…
- JimmyF on 18/07/2023 - 09:00
  
  -2
  
  WA drivers are some of the worse drivers in the country… As a East coast person, whenever I head to the West I'm shocked and reminded at how bad they are!
- Ughhh on 18/07/2023 - 13:28
  
  +1
  
  but it's mobile hphone use and other distracted driving that causes the frequent, frustrating, road-blocking crashes
  
  Distraction is definitely an issue, but pair distraction with high speed vs low speed, guess which one is more dangerous. Which one is easier to monitor?
  
  Speed cameras are like passive measures/income on the dumb and blind, especially when there are warning signs and they're not exactly hidden.
dandosr on 17/07/2023 - 20:03

+8

We need more highway patrols cars on the road policing bad behaviour not speed cameras that have only been put in place for revenue.
- orangetrain on 18/07/2023 - 00:25
  
  +2
  
  Why ruin Sydney's culture of cutting people off, not letting people in, etc just to save 15 seconds at risk of their lives and thousands in damages?? /s
- jellykingdom on 18/07/2023 - 08:30
  
  Absolutely. I bet everyone has a million stories of being overtaken by someone doing 40-50+ over the speed limit, but I've never actually spoken to anyone who has been done by a fixed camera
- imagele90 on 20/07/2023 - 07:18
  
  Agree, they should establish a number of highway patrol units (say 2-3) of unmarked cars per unit moving town to town monitoring residential areas around the state targeting speeding & camera using drivers.
Wiadro on 17/07/2023 - 20:09

+2

more actual police, less private contractor mobile cameras
Leadfoot6 on 17/07/2023 - 20:25

Useful discussion.

I posted a similar article from the 9 news stable this time yesterday.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/14039818/redir
TheMindsetTraveller on 17/07/2023 - 21:59

+2

Speed is an easy target, it is easily measured and generates the best revenue that requires very little manpower if need be.

Catch that distracted driver watching Tiktok while waiting at the traffic light, and does not realise its green and time to go. Lots of manpower to catch one person, and from a (likely) government view, a waste of resources for the revenue generated.
bobbified on 17/07/2023 - 23:12

+1

All the crap around speeding brings in money for the government.
To address anything else, it would cost the government money.

If I was the government, I know what I would be doing…..
orangetrain on 18/07/2023 - 00:27

+1

100% of speed camera fines going towards non-fined driver rego lottery = near 100% acceptance of speed cameras I bet.

Still waiting for a state government to take this up.
- Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 08:30
  
  That seems a decent idea, could probably use some tweaks. I like the idea of speeding revenue going at least some way toward rewarding good motorists.
Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 08:36

"You've got to look beyond that 10km/h message,"

Yes, minor speeding infringements do not largely result in death. driver distraction and incompetence is probably a lot more significant in crashing.

If they were being honest with the motoring public they would acknowledge the real menaces on our roads are impaired drivers and recidivist offenders, not mums and dads getting busted a few (kilometres per hour) over the limit.

Agree with this sentiment, however just letting ‘a few km over’ off with a warning is a recipe for increasing overall speeds and we need to lower them, especially in built up areas. Slower limits not only make roads safer but reduce pollution in both noise and emissions. Having slower limits makes alternative transport methods far more pleasant and will lead to reduction in traffic delays. That is, more pedestrians, scooters and bicycles make the transport network work better and be much more pleasant to live and work beside. And for those having a fit about lower limits, I’m not proposing we lower them on highways or major routes, just built up, busy areas.
Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 08:47

We don't need to lower them.
Speed limits are already too low, and slavish looking at the speedometer all the time is a distraction, just like looking at 'phones.
Not everyone subscribes to more government regulation.
- Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 11:38
  
  MAYBE increasing the limit on freeways might be Ok but with the general level of driver training being assessing if you can reverse park, I don’t trust most drivers to be able to cope with higher limits. It’s bad enough at 110 when it’s busy.
  
  Notice I was talking about busy urban areas to drip the limits. Not thoroughfares. Not highways. The average speed in these areas is already typically below the speed limit anyway. Our cities are unpleasant to be in largely because of fast motorised traffic.
  - Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 16:17
    
    "Our cities are unpleasant to be in largely because of fast motorised traffic".
    
    That is because there are too many people being jammed into them.
    
    Blame excess immigration, which is a separate issue.
    
    I used to love living in Sydney in the 1980's, less so in the 90's.
    
    I had to put up with it 'till 2012.
    
    I resist going there now.
    - Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 17:45
      
      That is because there are too many people being jammed into them
      
      I knew you wouldn’t get it. Too many people is a part of it, but when you’ve got lots of people together and they can all get around town on foot, bicycle or public transit it is a lot more pleasant than having cars making noise. Europeans seem to have caught on to the idea and are reducing vehicular traffic in inner city areas. Asian cities do it differently, but they were slower on the uptake of cars and have more areas where cars just aren’t needed.
      
      Aussie cities are designed around the car and not around people. We need to turn that around in many cities. Create 15min cities where everything you need is within 15min by walking or public transit.
      
      Create ring roads and traffic thoroughfares to get from place to place where necessary, but reduce the need for cars where ever possible so we don’t need to travel long distances at high speed.
      
      It’s not for country towns (sounds like you’re in one from other posts) but country towns don’t have the same pressures of traffic.
      - Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 18:14
        
        @Euphemistic: You knew I wouldn't get it?
        
        I am(probably much) older than you.
        
        I saw first hand how Sydney became ever more unpleasant to live in over the years.
        
        Noise?
        
        I was directly involved in motorsport until my early 30's and sold cars until my 50's.
        
        Doing so meant that I was "right up close and personal" with engines, including the time I pit crewed for a team running a peripheral port Mazda rotary.
        
        I went to the first Australian F1 GP in Adelaide in 1986 where I experienced the most noisy event of my life.
        
        The only other noise comparable was attending the Bankstown Airshow in 1988, part of Australia's bicentennial celebrations, which starred the brilliant Hawker/BAe Sea Harrier jump jet.
        
        THAT was noisy.
        
        I was even a mobile DJ for about 5 years on weekends, partly because I was able to access "free" music.
        
        I am not deaf, nor do I use a hearing aid.
        
        The way to keep metropolitan areas pleasant is to reduce population pressure.
        
        I never have and refuse to live in a home/villa unit or apartment.
        
        I like to have the ability to keep outdoor pets, as nature intended, without forcing them to do their "business" inside.
        
        Socialists/communists, or others that delight in telling others what to do, like yourself,
        advocate for car free societies as a manner of controlling the population.
        
        Considering that ADR's(Australian Design Rules) for cars have mandated that they have become much quieter over the years, I am certain that you mention "noise" not because cars are unpleasantly objectionable in terms of dB's emitted, but because control freaks like to control.
        
        Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 20:04
        
        @Leadfoot6: I’m not advocating controlling you to give up your car. I’m suggesting that ‘we’ should be working towards cities that don’t need cars.
        
        As for
        
        Socialists/communists, or others that delight in telling others what to do, like yourself, advocate for car free societies as a manner of controlling the population.
        
        What a crock. I’m not advocating for the choice to be able to live without a car easily. Our current society pretty much means if you don’t have a car you’re screwed, and that puts an expensive burden on many among us to own and operate the single most expensive item any of us will own outside a home.
        
        As you admit you’re older I hope that your position is not ruled by having a car. It may not be long before you cannot drive and you’ll need to make some big changes.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 20:42
        
        @Euphemistic: And I am advocating for less population pressure, as are others in the real world.
        
        Of course, your very strong advocacy for EV's, and the subsidies that go with that via rebates/government funded charging stations, makes this burden fall more on those who do not have EV's.
        
        Those that want them should pay out of their own pocket and not sponger off others.
        
        What is also clear from increased EV use is the push to have them owned in a "pool" and hired out when needed by those living in high density areas.
        
        Anyway, I'm only 60 something.
        
        My 99 year old mother held an unrestricted licence until about 93 , without ever having any at fault accidents, and never being fined not even for parking.
        
        I believe I will have a few years of driving left in me yet.
        
        And even though she does not drive anymore, I still keep her '95 Hyundai Excel, one owner 130,000km with only parking scrapes, in tip top order so we can take her in it to the shops.
        
        Her advanced arthritis makes it too difficult to get up into my brother's Mitsubishi Challenger.
        
        Euphemistic on 18/07/2023 - 21:48
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        And I am advocating for less population pressure, as are others in the real world.
        
        Yes, we need that too I’ve never said we don’t. There’s nothing wrong with higher density urban areas, provided they are built properly and have decent amounts of communal green space. Urban sprawl has massively contributed to the need for cars.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 22:25
        
        @Euphemistic: It also allows for children/pets to live in a more natural environment, with things like trees and grass of your own.
        Many here have criticised me for advocating for cats to be allowed to run free "because they will kill the bird life".
        I have lotttttts of trees on my large block, resulting in lotttttts of birds, possums( I saw one last night trying out my new $11 torch), lizards and the odd black snake etc.
        The cat can't keep up with all of that.
        Those living in units can't achieve this.
        So, who is ACTUALLY more caring of diverse wildlife?
        WE HAVE A WINNER.
        A free standing house allows a generally much larger garage/workshop area.
        And more for the house itself.
        That encourages skills such as working on cars/appliances/tools/lawnmowers, rather than just looking at screens or X Box controllers.
        Not having these things is not natural, especially for males.
        And speaking of things unnatural, there is much more need for a clothes dryer using electricity(killing the planet) if you do not have access to a Hills Hoist.
        To this day I still don't own a clothes dryer, or dishwasher.
        Living in a free standing house is also more conducive to developing friendly relations with neighbours who you can wave to over the back fence.
        You might just be lucky enough to do that between balconies in a high rise, provided you don't have arguments with them over noise between adjoining walls, or drifting cigarette/weed smoke.
        Less chance of that in a fully detached house.
        No, I'm much happier with "urban sprawl" thanks.
        Or, in my case, semi rural sprawl.
        I don't go to the theater, or fancy "fru fru" eateries, or art galleries, so I have no need for such things considered essential by those who have a desperate need to live in very close confines in Newtown or inner Melbourne.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 06:19
        
        @Leadfoot6: Oh FFS what the hell have cats got to do with it? Yet again you’ve gone way off topic.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 18:40
        
        -1
        
        @Euphemistic: If you wish to complain about me going off topic, you might like to remember that it was you who advanced the notion about "urban sprawl" and "noise" earlier in this thread.
        
        What my father, for example, would have said about someone complaining about noise from cars, whilst enduring Japanese bombs and bullets during a Japanese air raid in Darwin Harbour in 1942 would not be able to be repeated here.
        
        GROW UP.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 18:58
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        GROW UP.
        
        So you now just resort to personal insults? Seems I’m making sense and got under your skin.
        
        As for noise, a single car on its own isn’t too noisy, but in a city it is the bulk of the apparent noise
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 19:00
        
        @Euphemistic: Your comment about noise was inappropriate and childish.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 19:01
        
        @Leadfoot6: So you’ve got nothing to counter the arguments with.
        
        I win!
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 19:04
        
        @Euphemistic: I did counter, with the appropriate suggestion that you need to grow up, and look at the world from an adult's perspective.
        
        Furthermore, in 1980 I commenced work in an office in the Sydney CBD.
        
        I worked in the CBD for about 6 years, negotiating the streets on foot to and from Wynyard station 5 days a week just before 9am and finishing sometime after 5pm.
        
        That is the time of traffic at it's heaviest.
        
        I can't remember actually paying any attention to it or the noise generated, other than making sure I did not get run over crossing the street.
        
        Once again, GROW UP.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 19:20
        
        @Euphemistic: My 99 year old mother has an appropriate attitude towards people like yourself.
        
        "We need to have another world war so that people learn to understand what is important in life".
        
        She lived through WW2, ultimately having to set aside her own life to deal with the very serious health complications suffered by my father from his service in that war, which ultimately led to his very early death.
        
        Earlier, I used to think her outlook on life about this was too harsh.
        
        Now, I completely agree with her, and recently apologised to her because of my earlier incorrect outlook.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 19:25
        
        -2
        
        @Leadfoot6: Ok boomer.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 19:29
        
        @Euphemistic: Ok snowflake.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 19:44
        
        @Leadfoot6: Surprised you haven’t used ‘woke’ yet.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 19:49
        
        -1
        
        @Euphemistic: I might save that for a rainy day.
        
        Anyway, you are interrupting my viewing of Andrew Bolt on Sky.
        
        You should look at it, for a necessary dose of common sense and reality(not of the "reality TV" show kind).
        
        P.S. Don't have the sound turned up too much…..it could damage your hearing.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 20:13
        
        +1
        
        @Leadfoot6: If by reality tv you mean indoctrination for uneducated people so that the wealthy can keep its viewers angry at something other than the ways they are being made poorer while the wealthy horde billions they don’t need?
        
        I want my kids and future generations to be able to afford a home and live in peaceful place not polluted beyond repair.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 20:19
        
        -1
        
        @Euphemistic: I'm not sure how your comment applies to most people in their viewing audience.
        
        Any viewing of episodes of shows such as "Our Town", a regular segment on Paul Murray Live would show that the Sky News audience is very much "down to earth".
        
        Tradesmen, truck drivers, farmers, housewives, small business owners, mums & dads, factory workers(well, those who work in our ever diminishing manufacturing industry being steadily curtailed by "greenie" idiot imposed increasing electricity prices) and the like.
        
        Actually, what used to be firmly "labor heartland" types.
        
        Not any more.
        
        None displaying any ostentatious pretenses of wealth.
        
        You display extreme jealousy towards those that might work and save or are not union "true believers".
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 21:06
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        I'm not sure how your comment applies to most people in their viewing audience.
        
        And that’s the problem.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 21:19
        
        @Euphemistic: Um, most people in their viewing audience are not billionaires or inner city elites, or "true believers".
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 21:24
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        Um, most people in their viewing audience are not billionaires or inner city elites, or "true believers".
        
        sigh
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 21:40
        
        @Euphemistic: Are you depressed?
        
        Seek help.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 20:22
        
        @Euphemistic: No, what you mean is that you want it given to you by the government, at the expense of those that work and save for it.
        
        Anyway, off topic again, but I can give as good as I get round for round if you want to continue with this.
        
        Euphemistic on 19/07/2023 - 21:03
        
        @Leadfoot6: No. I’m happy to be reasonably taxed but I want taxes to be used for the public good, not supporting corporations. I want the wealthy to pay more tax. They don’t pay their fair share and end up hoarding it.
        
        You think you’re giving as good as you’re getting, but you’re just spouting the sky/fox propaganda
        
        Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 21:26
        
        -1
        
        @Euphemistic: You might have forgotten, but despite my long history of involvement with my automotive life, before that I worked full time in accounting and studied part time for 7 years to obtain my Economics/Accounting degree.
        
        I am not sure you can argue about these matters without having the authority provided by a formal education, and direct work experience, in the areas that you want to debate.
        
        If you have formal qualifications from a recognised tertiary institution such as Macquarie University, where I graduated from in 1986, please share.
        
        P.S. And before you ask, I moved away from this field of work because office work was rather frustrating, compared to my love of cars.
        
        It took me a long time to get into, but I ended up earning more as a used car salesman than I could have continuing with accounting work(unless I became partner in an accounting firm), which included btw, a significant emphasis on taxation.
        
        Fully maintained near new company cars were an added bonus, for which the dealerships paid the FBT.
        
        “Find a job you enjoy doing, and you will never have to work a day in your life.”
        ― Mark Twain
        
        P.P.S. There is some chance that my opinions about certain aspects of life may have been in the process of being formed well before Sky News came along(late 1990's?), which is a much more recent phenomena than my formal tertiary education.
        
        It might even have had something to do with the influence of my parents, neither of whom got anywhere near to finishing high school, but who instilled in me the value of hard work and thrift(managing to accumulate 3 houses debt free before my father died, starting with a combined 24 pounds in the bank when they got married in 1944), and never living in a housing commission house.
        
        Euphemistic on 20/07/2023 - 08:55
        
        +1
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        It might even have had something to do with the influence of my parents, neither of whom got anywhere near to finishing high school, but who instilled in me the value of hard work and thrift(managing to accumulate 3 houses debt free before my father died, starting with a combined 24 pounds in the bank when they got married in 1944), and never living in a housing commission house. Then if you need two incomes to pay for a house you have to pay for childcare to keep your job. Things are different now
        
        Yep. We all know in the good old days you could work one honest job and afford a house and to look after your family if you were good with your money. That’s changed. Now you need two incomes to afford a basic home IF you can save enough for a deposit while paying off uni fees and paying exorbitant rents.
        
        And before you say it was so much better then, that was a time where everyone hid their issues and largely suppressed emotions often leading to miserable lives, domestic violence and where rape and peadophilea was concealed at every turn. Racism was real and government support for poverty was minimal.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 21/07/2023 - 13:00
        
        @Euphemistic: Sorry, too far "off topic", except to note that speed cameras are not "racist", or are not capable of perpetrating domestic violence.
        I could of course, cover these topics as a response if I wanted to and if these were relevant.
        But they are not, and hence the delay in considering if I should respond.
        
        Euphemistic on 21/07/2023 - 17:02
        
        @Leadfoot6: You’re the one that went there.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 21/07/2023 - 18:38
        
        @Euphemistic: NO.
        You started the "urban sprawl" nonsense.
        
        Euphemistic on 21/07/2023 - 20:14
        
        @Leadfoot6: I started with the basic premise that urban speed limits should be lowered, based on failing to enforce speeding increases traffic speeds. Somehow you ended up with lamenting yesteryear.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 21/07/2023 - 20:33
        
        @Euphemistic: Once again, you want to enforce your will on everyone else.
        JAWOHL!
        
        Euphemistic on 21/07/2023 - 20:39
        
        @Leadfoot6: Not just my will. Plenty of people have discovered that ‘car reduced’ (less cars and slower speeds) cities are much more pleasant places to be. That’s the whole point. Making cities more pleasant to be in and less reliant on cars. Not outlawing, banning or removing cars but making it less necessary to own one.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 21/07/2023 - 21:26
        
        @Euphemistic: The minority only.
        As soon as they have the $$ or want space they move out.
        
        Euphemistic on 21/07/2023 - 21:35
        
        @Leadfoot6: Different strokes for different folks.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 22/07/2023 - 00:30
        
        @Euphemistic: You really should not be the one to mention stroking.
JimmyF on 18/07/2023 - 09:01

-1

Although the number caught has dropped from one in every 311 motorists passing a mobile speed camera location in May and June 2022, to one in every 1663 motorists in May and June this year.

So basically what you're saying is NSW drivers still speed lilke crap, but most pay notice and slow down for the speed camera if warned…..

Yeah, NSW you're doing it wrong. Do like SA and put the warning sign AFTER the speed camera.
- Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 09:13
  
  -1
  
  The article(s) points to the fact that the Government's foot was taken off the neck of the NSW motorist.
  No seeming resultant rise in road deaths has happened.
  Therefore, the obvious implication is that the speed limits are too low.
  - JimmyF on 18/07/2023 - 10:40
    
    No seeming resultant rise in road deaths has happened.
    
    There are many levels between being in good health and death when you have a car accident.
    - Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 16:14
      
      If you want to be pedantic, and you are, I will rephrase my post.
      
      "No seeming resultant rise in accidents has happened".
      - JimmyF on 18/07/2023 - 18:57
        
        @Leadfoot6:
        
        "No seeming resultant rise in accidents has happened".
        
        Does the data show accidents or road deaths?
        
        If you want to be pedantic, and you are
        
        Well you claimed deaths, I was saying that looking at deaths isn't the best metric to look at, as car accidents have many levels of outcomes with death being the worst of course.
        
        Leadfoot6 on 18/07/2023 - 19:01
        
        @JimmyF: If there have been any resultant rise in accidents, the "Harold Scruby's" of the world will be strident in their reporting of same.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_Council_of_Australi…
        
        No, I don't hear any outcry, just relief from the "cash cow" motorists of NSW.
        
        Of course, if you happen to notice any increase reported, please post such research here.
        
        I am not a religious viewer of TV news, only when I have time, but those broadcasts that I have been viewing recently have not seemingly made mention of any uptick in accidents, either at metro. NSW or regional NSW level.
        
        I do happen to spend more time viewing web based news reports.
        
        No uptick there either.
        
        Sorry to disappoint.
GordonD on 18/07/2023 - 09:58

+1

Quote from the 9 story:

"With all the warning signs that are in place now, drivers deserve to get one ticket for whatever speed they were doing over the limit, and another ticket for not paying due care and attention," a veteran highway patrol officer told Drive on condition of anonymity as they are not permitted to speak to media about traffic matters.

So its OK for THEM to break the rules!
- RockyRaccoon on 18/07/2023 - 11:15
  
  Take your point, but given their masters** play the "dont quote me" rule as well, almost daily, what would you expect. 😀
  
  ** Politicians
Leadfoot6 on 19/07/2023 - 18:42

I normally don't pay much attention to "celebrities" but the following, if true, highlights the absurdity of speed cameras and ridiculously low speed limits:

"Radio personality Fifi Box has lost her driver’s licence for six months following three consecutive driving infringements.
[…..]
According to Box, she went 6km/h over the speed limit several days in a row and has been stripped of her licence.

“I went over my demerit points, which is a silly thing,” she said. “I went through the tunnel three days in a row. I saw the red light camera, and then there was another one, and they added up and I lost my licence for six months.”

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/fifi-box-gets…

"OH THE HUMANITY"

https://www.efootage.com/videos/44048/oh-humanity-hindenburg…

That was the famous impassioned oft' repeated quote by radio broadcaster Herbert Morrison as he witnessed the incineration of the Hindenburg airship at Lakehurst, New Jersey in 1937.

6 km/h over the limit…..Oh the humanity.

It is such childish nonsense.

She lost her licence for 6 months.

If caught, I would be locked up for a significant time based on my own admitted understanding and recollection of how I drive normally, without incident……other than having the infrequent "conversation" with a policeman.

Still haven't had an "at fault" accident for approaching 40 years in my case.

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