Hi Guys,
Excuse me if I am asking the same question again.
Note: I have dropped the idea of buying the EV.
I have short-listed some cars I am interested in and am looking for feedback/advice on these.
Which one would you buy?
1) Kia Seltos Sport+ AWD
2) Suzuki S-Cross AllGrip
3) Mazda CX-5 Maxx
4) Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 2WD
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Cheers.
Thanks for your reply, I like the KIA Seltos. Others are not bad.
What you like about them? Design, features, warranty?
Which one you like the least? And why?
1) Seltos like the warranty and look. Technology I am not sure about.
2) Suzuki like the brand drives well. Technology is bit outdated.
3)Mazda and Mitsubishi both are bit same.
Why do you recommend?
@digitalfarmer: They are all from reputable manufacturers. Pick the one YOU like.
It doesn’t even have to be a rational decision. Could be you like the salesman best, it’s the closest to home, it just sounds right or the warning chimes aren’t sound nice. Equally you could rule out any of them because the taillights look odd, the radio buttons don’t feel nice or the dealership has a funny smell. It’s YOUR choice.
For my recent purchase I ruled out one car I was keen on within 5min of test drive. Just didn’t feel right. Others were rule out because back seat wasn’t suitable, one I wasn’t keen on because of the engine sound.
I wasn’t keen on because of the engine sound.
I had the same experience recently. I thought to myself this free revving naturally aspirated Ferrari V12 is so bloody annoying.
@digitalfarmer: Test drive them again if you like, pick on tiny little details that you like or dislike. Even chat to sales team regards what you comparing againts,thats sometimes help to negotate bettter as well.
Pick for things like tech, look, comfit, feel, price on shcdule service, warrenty, noice of the engine (at least v8 noice), tyer noice, wait time, etc.
Camry
Dealer has no ETA, production has not started. I might wait.
Are you? Or are you going to make your ninth thread about buying a car?
The Seltos and the Maxx are different sizes, why not the Touson or the sportage?
Tyson and Sportage are bit over the budget.
Hyundai Tucson 2.0L SUV FWD is just over $35k. Which is about the same as the Mazda CX-5 Maxx at $36k. You have also included the Suzuki S-Cross AllGrip and the price of that is $44,490 RRP?
My wife has a Tucson Elite N Line Diesel AWD and it is great! Mind you, it was $52k for that model, but don't regret it. Compared to my wife's colleague who got a new Mazda around the same time as her (12 months ago), my wife said the technology in her Tucson was heaps better! She felt the Mazda was a lot older with some of its technology/dash.
Thanks for the reply
Kia Seltos and Mitsi Eclipse , are CVT gearbox.
CX-5 and Suzuki S-Cross , are 6 speed Auto.
I would prefer the 6 speed Auto, over any CVT.
CX-5 is 2.0L NA , Suzuki has 1.4L Turbo DI w/ EGR.
I would prefer engine with less parts / maintenance.
Mazda / Suzuki has 5 years warranty.
Whilst the Kia has 7 years warranty.
Mitsubishi has 5 or 10 years warranty.
Mitsubishi’s standard New Car Warranty is 5 years/100,000 km (whichever occurs first). You may also be eligible for an extended New Car Warranty up to 10 years/200,000 km if you’ve had all scheduled services done through the authorised Mitsubishi Motors Dealer Network.
But if you're not planning to keep it for long enough past the warranty, to actually be concern on reliability / repair / maintenance costs , then just pick the one that suits your taste in terms of looks / features / size / driving dynamics.
Thanks
Which engine has parts / maintenance?
NA engine typically has less parts over forced induction engine with turbo/chargers.
Also the more emission control systems added to the engine as a separate unit, increases the likelihood of having more parts/sensors to fail. Have a look/search on EGR failure ,etc.
No, Seltos AWD (turbo) has a torque converter. NA engine models have CVT.
Yes you are right, the AWD turbo model has 8 speed Auto instead of CVT. I stand corrected on that note.
CX-5 is 2.0L NA , Suzuki has 1.4L Turbo DI w/ EGR.
All engines for the past 20tickety years have had EGR, why single that irrelevant point out?
So you are saying every engines in past 20 years have Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems installed in them ?
There is a difference between overlapping valve timing and a separate EGR system that plumbs back cooled exhaust gas to intake.
Yes, 1000% yes, every petrol engine for the past 20, if not more, years has had an EGR system.
There is a difference between overlapping valve timing
This has nothing to do with emissions as such, it has to do with scavenging and once again, all cars built in the last 30snicketty or so years have some sort of valve overlap. Or are you confusing valve overlap with variable cam timing (VCT, VTECH,VVTI,MIVEC, etc)?
@Brian McGee: You are confusing valve overlap with EGR system.
EGR system plumbs back from exhaust manifold back into intake. Which is obviously NOT in every car past 20 years ago, or even on a new car built TODAY.
If you have the time, type in EGR on Google, you'll get your answer on what is a EGR system.
EGR is not in your engine cylinder valve , it has nothing to do with scavenging effects , it purely exists for emission control.
@dcep: EGR = Exhaust gas recirculation, fitted to most new vehicles after 1999 (or at least every one I've worked on) to lower combustion cylinder temperatures at light load/light throttle and to minimise the release of NOx and VOCs.
Euro 5 emissions required EGR to be fitted to light service diesels from aroung the mid-late 00's. maybe you need to go to a car lot and lift the bonnet to satisfy how incorrect you are?
What has valve overlap got to do with EGR? Absolutely nothing. What has valve overlap got to do with variable cam timing? It changes the relation or the crank and camshaft (or camshafts to each other) or activates a different profile on the camshaft that changes the valve overlap at hight speed for more power and better efficiency.
Why are you determined to be so wrong in front of all these people?
Buy the Seltos
it is made in India
so Mody has power to take the world…
Do you trust made in India cars?
It is NOT made in India, but in Korea.
Indian-made models are shorter than those for the rest of the world.
Mine says made in Korea, so I'm sure!
A talking car?
been talking cars since 1982.
never heard of kitt?
I am currently travelling India for the second time:
Because of Indian manufacturing plants the Kia brand has become very popular here. Seltos and many others are everywhere!
Mazda has the best quality out of the lot if that means anything to you.
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Define best, they both outlast each other these days. Most of the time their components come from the same factory. But sometimes it feel good to think the car you own is best ;)
I remeber the time, Honda used to be best out of the lot, now it just a over priced Japanase car.
If you don’t ever go to the snow, or drive around a farm off the road you don’t need AWD. It’s just adding weight and complexity.
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As indicated in another comment, you have a lot of different cars that are different sizes. From an Eclipse Cross to a CX5? That is a bit of a size difference.
Oh I will reanalyze. Thanks
There's a good seltos thread over on whirlpool if you're game ..
Please share the link. Thanks
Mazda CX5 for sure.
A person who can't think of a good reason to buy this rather than that is in the enviable position that whatever they buy they'll be happy with. Choose one. Buy it. And stop looking at the alternatives. That way you won't regret your decision.
That's the thing about cars these days. They all do essentially the same thing the same way. They all have pretty much the same reliability and economy. Unless you get the decision seriously wrong it doesn't matter which you are in.
Stop obsessing about getting the absolute best decision, because in the end it isn't worth the trouble of trying to. That's the way to be happy.
MAZDA except their suvs aren't as good/reliable as their sedans/hatches
the other brands are not as reliable, and the koreans have a BIG LONG THICC history with bad engines and a$$ r@ping their customers
as always do more research before paying $40K for a $30K car, because covid no chips for cars and suppy chain issue lies
'MAZDA except their suvs aren't as good/reliable as their sedans/hatches'
What does this mean?
They basically use the same drivetrain. How are they less reliable?
Maybe the SUVs aren’t as good as the hatches, but in what way?
I agree… but I was trying to understand the grammar 'MAZDA except their suvs aren't as good/reliable as their sedans/hatches'
Is he trying to say all Mazda's that aren't SUVs aren't as good/reliable as their sedans/hatches.
That only leaves the MX5 and BT50 lol
I also have a feeling that Sinnerator isn't vaccinated.
@Euphemistic: If that's the case, I wouldn't have beaten around the bush- 'MAZDA suvs aren't as good/reliable as their sedans/hatches'
Haval H6 FTW!
I think the equivalent Mazda would be the CX-3, all are compact suv's
I'd seriously look at the Haval Jolion in that case.
All good cars. Pick the one that has the best ergonomics and comfort that feels good to drive.
My first pick would be the Kia Seltos. Long warranty, 1.6 turbo with the 8 speed auto is nicer to drive compare to the old 7 speed dry DCT and has the best tech and equipment for the price.
I think the eclipse cross has the best exterior look, longest warranty and cheapest capped price servicing. Mazda will probably drives better and have a more modern interior but Mazda is known for expensive servicing? At the end of the day it really depends on your personal preference
Have you test drive them all? Which one you like?