Looking to replace four tyres on my SantaFe (235/65R17).
Any recommendations and deals for replacement of these tyres?
Thanks.
Looking to Replace Four Tyres on My Hyundai Santa Fe (235/65R17)
bluespider on 23/10/2023 - 07:58
Last edited 23/10/2023 - 10:09 by 1 other user
Last edited 23/10/2023 - 10:09 by 1 other user
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Thanks, yep, will replace all 4.
How will the different tyres wear out the driveline?
If you have different levels of wear on tyres (or even a mismatch of tyre models) on the same axle it'll mean slightly different wheel diameters. This will cause the wheels to cover different distances with the same number of rotations, so the diff will have to be constantly working to spin the driveshaft on one side slower than the other side.
This is valid for the driven wheels of all cars, not just for AWD vehicles.
I would hope if the vehicle is FWD they would put 2 of the new tyres on the front.
@Brian McGee: New on the front is old fashioned thinking. New tyres go on the rear.
Look up what Michelin, Bridgestone, etc recommend.
@brad1-8tsi: I've only recently heard of this too. I thought it was nuts when a tyre guy first mentioned it to me. It went against everything I learned when I was a youngster.
Unfortunately, other than hearing about it, I haven't really learned more about it. I haven't done any of my own research. The notion currently occupies a dusty area of my brain where I just go 🤷
Perhaps one day, I will put in the effort. But today is not that day.
I've only recently heard of this too.
The research goes back at least 20 years. There was some interesting work in NZ when there was a significant increase in single vehicle accidents several years after the FWD Japanese imports started coming in. One of the findings was that the lighter rear end of FWD vehicles was causing increased unintended oversteer & rear end aquaplaning causing loss of control and spearing off into the shrubbery.
In addition, having them on the rear meant where tyre wear is minimal meant that many tyres were aged well beyond 10 years old with hardened rubber and weakened sidewalls from age.Throwing the more worn tyres on the front end that does all the power transmission, steering and 70% of the braking goes against what you'd think but that's how it is.
When I was selling tyres and doing wheel alignments having new tyres on the front made life easier. My best mate has stayed in the tyre industry (45 years) and is a technical rep for a major franchise and says "new on the back whether it's FWD, RWD or AWD".@brad1-8tsi: thanks for the detailed information. Much appreciated.
In case I wasn't clear, I wasn't trying to argue either way. It was just so different to how I was taught.
The research goes back at least 20 years.
This explains it… 2003 was way later than my formative years. LOL
@brad1-8tsi: Thanks for this, was looking to replace my front tyres on my car as they're much more worn than the rear.
So the correct thing to do is buy 2x new tyres for the rear and have them rotate the rear ones onto the front?
2x new tyres for the rear and have them rotate the rear ones onto the front
That's pretty much how I do it.
Slightly complicated as I like to x-rotate every 10k km but I usually wear all 4 out at once & buy 4 new tyres.
@brad1-8tsi: Awesome reply! Also wondering how old is too old for tyres despite good tread, eg low 3000km/year with garage away from the sun?
how old is too old for tyres despite good tread,
I believe Germany has a 6 year (?) maximum period from the manufacture date regardless of how long it has been on the car.
Tyre manufacturers say their tyres can be in proper storage (cool, dry, low UV) for 5 years and still be sold as a new tyre.
I'd think replace after 10-12 years regardless of tread depth and a thorough external yearly inspection yearly after 6 years.
When I met my partner in 2016 she had the original tyres on the rear of her 2000 Mazda. It failed rego check that year due to sidewall cracks in the 16yo tyres.
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Just a thought.
You could change the two on the same axle though and it'd be fine.
I wouldn't think anyone would mismatch tyres on an axle (unless one was slashed). I've driven 10+ years with mismatched front and rear tyres on my awd subaru and it was fine.
I've driven 10+ years with mismatched front and rear tyres on my awd subaru and it was fine.
Agree. There is 6.5mm radius difference between new and the TWIs. If your AWD system is that critical then there's a problem.
If it's a proper 4WD with a transfer case then it should only be used on a low traction surface and any driveline wind up will be negated by loss of traction.
does your car ever go around corners?
any limited slip diff?Usually if the sizes are same, then the above will not be an issue. However, if they have different characteristics, braking etc will be uneven. This also is only an issue if you are braking hard.
Also try to avoid travelling around corners for the same reason.
Why 3?
Sorry, let me update post to say 4:)
Buy 3, get one free deal?
Location?
axles?
.Cheers! I would not have thought that! 👍
Post Code : 2153 (NSW)
Thanks, have a look at Bob Jane.
There are a few on catalogue specials or Buy 3, Get 1 Free or, Buy 4 and get $100 cashback.
- https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/235-65r17-tyres/j-trax/j-trax-h…
- https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/235-65r17-tyres/dunlop/dunlop-g…
- https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/235-65r17-tyres/bridgestone/bri…
I guess it all depends on roads you are driving as well, probably don't need an All Terrain if you do a lot of city driving.
You might find some smaller shops will price match Bob Jane in some way or be slightly cheaper. Don't forget to get a wheel alignment as well.
Check Costco
memebr reqd ?
Waiting for the dude that suggests you get tyres 10mm wider than the tyre placard on your car.
TBH should probably just get these: https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/175-70r13-tyres/radar/radar-rpx…
Heaps cheaper than what was linked above!I put 165-14 retreads on my 180B when I was a pizza delivering uni student. Got 10,000kms out of them, less grip = more sliding = more grins = more wear
.grins?
My car has three optional rim diameters so can legally be fitted with at leat six different tyre sizes.
You could wait for Black Friday, mycar usually has alright deals
Cant believe I had to scroll down this far to find this advice!
https://www.tempetyres.com.au/tyreproducts?kumho-2356517-104…
MyCar will match Tempe tyres … it's preferable to hang out at the Towers while tyres get fitted, as opposed drive to Granville and hang out in the Tempe showroom.
For future reference: make sure you always use premium air. You'll get better milage out of your tyres :)
Find a good dealer that doesnt charge much. The ozbargainer way!You haven't given any indication of budget, driving style etc.
I'd buy these at $175 each. Michelins would be nice but not $400+ nice. Parramatta store the closest to you?
https://www.tempetyres.com.au/tyreproducts?continental-23565…Bridgestone have a buy 3 get 4 free offer at the moment.
https://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/au/firestone/destinatio…
These would be good if you mostly drive on sealed roads.I have a Sorento with same size tyres. I was most impressed with Michelin Primacy SUV compared with Kuhmo/Dunlops I've also had. I agree to wait for Black Friday specials if you can but here's some great michelins which work out at $300 each inc fitting.
https://www.tyroola.com.au/michelin-pilot-sport-4-suv-xl-235…
What are the differences you noticed? Sorento owner here and with Kuhmo tyres, I am quite happy but interested to see what's different? Ta
I had the OEM Kumhos trigger the ABS several times when braking at motorway speed in dry weather, and had poor wet weather grip. Changing to Michelins gave much better wet and dry performance and quieter as well. I then tried Dunlop PT3s but their performance is much like the original Kumhos. I'm not saying Kumhos are terrible, just for for me the Michelins are worth the extra $$$.
Same, have a 2017 Sorento, bought a set of these (4) https://www.bobjane.com.au/a/235-65r17-tyres/kumho/kumho-cru… they've been fine for hauling the family and kids on road.
Try these $682.40 + Fitting & Alignment
https://www.tyroola.com.au/kumho-crugen-premium-suv-kl33-235…What about Costco. I normally buy 3 tyres get one free, and Costco will fix all punctures for FREE for the life of the tires. I have used this offer when i got a flat. They fixed they tire while i was shopping. Too easy
Yep got this done yesterday. Nail in the tread fixed while we had a slice of pizza and grabbed a few things. Just need to look out for their promotions.
What sort of driving do you do? What’s your preference price, grip, longevity? Tyres generally apply the rule cheap price, lots of grip, last for ages - pick any two.
No one should be recommending a tyre if you don’t tell us a bit about your driving style and preferences for tyre characteristics.
I have Sante Fe (2017) Recently changed all 4 tyres to Toyo. Seems good so far. I didn't do much research, went for Pink Slip, which failed because tyre treads were not acceptable level. So got it changed in the same shop. I imagine if I would have shopped around, would have got better deal.
Falken. Reasonably priced and Japanese made.
Go on gumtree/fb marketplace and get some new-second hand ones. Quite easy to do with SUVs/Utes as a lot of people buy new cars and fit offroad tyres, selling the road tyres.
Then take them to a tyre place to get fitted. My local charges $100/4 tyres for a balance and fit.
I currently have a set of new ones off an Amrock. Got them for $90 each. Tyre place said new they are $230+ each. I did have to buy all 5, so have the spare sitting in my garage, but it was still a good deal.
Your Santa Fe doesn't have a centre differential; it has a centre clutch pack. If you ever intend to drive long distances in a more or less straight line on a high-traction surface—e.g. freeway—your tyres need to be as close as is practical to identical. This means rotating them regularly, and the Santa Fe's 15,000 kms service interval may be too long between rotations. I'd split it in half. And, again, if you run the risk of getting a flat when you need to to drive a substantial distance on the freeway, you need to include the spare in the rotations so that it matches the other tyres.
As advised above.
Pirelli MyCar Black Friday.
The tyres on my SUV were about 75% worn on all 4 corners so was planning to get some new Pirelli from MayCar on Black Friday.
2 months ago had a screw on the sidewall that couldn't be repaired. It should could be driven but deflated after a week.
Had to bite the bullet so go a full set of Bridgestone Alenza ($200 cashback if I bought 4). Great tyre. Better than the Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season I got for my other SUV. But the price was significantly more than the Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season on black Friday.
I thought about replacing just 2 tyres, but then that would leave me with the problem of 2 new tyres and 2 old tyres and Bridgestone was offering $200 cashback if I bought 4), add to that,I didn't want to pay full price for the Pirelli for now.. so said (profanity) it, replace them all. It hurt the wallet knowing that the remaining tyres would be good (and legal) for another 10-15k
Tyroola
ive had good success with these guys. they let you pick and price your tyres and shop and install date all online. very convenient and you can compare prices straight up
If it's AWD you should replace 4, otherwise you'll wear out the driveline quicker (Unless you're rotating in the full size spare wheel).