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Curve Belgie Ultra/Disc Titanium Road Bike - $6000 Delivered @ Curve Cycling

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Curve Belgie Ultra/Disc Titanium Road Bike - $6000 Delivered @ Curve Cycling
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brotherfranciz on 02/12/2023 - 22:00 curvecycling.com (4328 clicks)
Last edited 06/12/2023 - 03:07 by 1 other user

Australian-made titanium bicycle. Normal price is ~$8999.

Belgie Ultra (deal link)

Belgie Disc

From what I can tell, the price only applies to the following spec:

  • Groupset: SRAM Rival AXS 2 x 12
  • Wheelset: G4T 35
  • All frame sizes are available between 46-64cm

Reading through the webpage for each bike, I think the differences between the Disc and Ultra are as follows:

Belgie Disc:

The Belgie DISC is a combined version of the original Belgie and the Belgie Air.

"We've straightened out the seat stays and removed the old ‘brake bridge’ for a new sleeker and lighter rear triangle. This means better tyre clearance, up to 33 mm. Upfront, the tapered head tube is taken straight from our Belgie AIR and utilises an integrated headset for some gram shedding and a sleeker finish."

Belgie Ultra:

A new version of the Belgie Spirit - "improving handling, cornering, clearance for light gravel tyres and now featuring bento box mounting points. As a result, we now call this version the Belgie ULTRA."

I have no idea about bike geometry, but based on the descriptions, it sounds like the Ultra is meant to be a gravel bike whilst the Disc is a road bike? Happy for more knowledgeable people to enlighten me.

Wish I could afford one…

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  • Zippy7 on 02/12/2023 - 22:09
    +5

    Wow. Great discount.
    I had looked at a Titanium bike a few years back, but prices were ~$9k/$10k, and this is the biggest discount offered so far.
    As an ordinary person, this is out of my price range.
    I hope this big discount is not a precursor to something worse for them.

    • meong on 02/12/2023 - 22:21
      +2

      its a bad business for the cycling industry overall…

      • ninnypoop on 03/12/2023 - 13:38

        Why so?

        • meong on 03/12/2023 - 15:54
          +5

          There was a spike of demand in cycling business because of covid as people wanted a way to exercise without being indoor…

          There was then a supply chain issues due to factories being on lockdown which made prioritisation orders given to those who ordered more vs the smaller players.

          Companies ordered more than expected including from the individual component makers or the base materials being used to make them.

          Then the pandemic ended and there is now an oversupply of bikes, parts and accessories…

          Companies are struggling to sell them.

          Read more into the story behind WiggleCRC which pretty much gives an insight into the industry overall.

          Even Shimano that is so widely used are reporting significant loss even though their fishing products barely affected by the pandemic.

  • Murkymerv on 02/12/2023 - 22:42

    Titanium in name only ?

    • Musiclover on 02/12/2023 - 22:55
      +4

      No, it would be a Titanium Aluminium alloy commonly referred to as "Titanium".

      • bargaino on 02/12/2023 - 23:33
        +5

        Titanium alloy used in bikes is only 4 to 6% aluminium.

        What alloy specifically do you think this is, and where did you get that? the website does not say what alloy the frame material is, oddly. For a high end bike of any sort except carbon, i'd expect the alloy to be specified.

        At 1630g for the 56cm, it is kind of heavy.

        • Musiclover on 03/12/2023 - 00:08
          +1

          I prefer Carbon so not a specialist in Titanium alloys. Wait until I am 70 years old and then I would be able to tell you everything about alloys, but you are right, I was a bit surprised not to see the alloy name there. But I know that they never use pure Titanium because it is too brittle (and expensive).

        • DeToxin on 03/12/2023 - 07:41
          +2

          1.6kg is heavy?

          Cries in 2016 aluxx

          • bargaino on 03/12/2023 - 11:29
            +1

            @DeToxin: Me too. I was thinking 1.6 was normal for alloy, but that doesn't include forks. Oops!
            Still, heavy compared to carbon, which has taken over the market.

            • shnookums on 05/12/2023 - 14:44

              @bargaino: Curve bicycles lean towards adventure bikes. Carbon frames don't do well under these use cases. Horses for courses.

        • Speckled Jim on 03/12/2023 - 12:55
          +5

          the website does not say what alloy the frame material is, oddly.

          At the core of each frame is a 3AL - 2.5V Grade 9 Aerospace grade titanium tube-set. This grade is optimal for bicycle frames and chosen for its stiffness, compliance, and durability balance.

          https://www.curvecycling.com/products/belgie-v3?variant=4109…

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 02/12/2023 - 22:53
    +2

    Ribble (UK's oldest bike brand, 125 years) has some well priced and specced Ti bikes. I've ridden both their Endurance Ti Disc - Enthusiast, and the MTB HT Ti - Sport. Good value. You do have to pay GST and 5% customs duty. They recently had discounts for Black Friday on their CGR Ti.

  • Musiclover on 02/12/2023 - 22:59

    Titanium bikes are reserved for enthusiasts simply because they can not compete with Carbon in stifness and aerodynamics. The feature of Titanium bikes was them being custom made which could be helpful for people with unique anthropometry or the people who had some unqie quirks and desires or injuries (titanium pipes are easy to cut to size). The subject bike however is just standard geometry frame in several sizes.
    The unique feature of the Titanium frames was "road buzz absorbtion" simply because it is less stiff and more compliant (soft).

    • browser on 02/12/2023 - 23:32
      +6

      Titanium is much more stronger than carbon, it also doesn't weaken over time.

      • Musiclover on 02/12/2023 - 23:47
        +5

        It depends. Titanium is more resistant to scratches and damage from crash being a metal. Carbon is far stiffer. Its stiffness/weight ratio is unsurpassed. I would not worry about fatigue with neither material. I guess, titanium could be a valid option if you crash a lot. I have done close to 20,000kms on my current carbon frame, not a single scratch.

      • shaybisc on 03/12/2023 - 15:48
        +1

        I would not buy a used carbon fibre bike without an ultrasonic inspection, meaning I would not buy a used carbon fibre bike. New, no problem.

  • jdizzles on 02/12/2023 - 23:59
    +3

    Been riding a ~$500ish decathlon road bikes the past 7 years. Genuinely curious as to what the main improvements are from investing in a bike like this?

    • AustriaBargain on 03/12/2023 - 00:04
      +41

      12x the grief when this one gets stolen.

      • truetypezk on 03/12/2023 - 00:47
        +1

        and probably you will also pay 12x more attention to it so it is 1/12 likely to get stolen.

        • AustriaBargain on 03/12/2023 - 00:51
          +3

          I'd think expensive bikes would attract more attention by thieves, more likely to be stolen.

          • truetypezk on 03/12/2023 - 15:33

            @AustriaBargain: Back to the certain marvellous Asian country where I came from, there was a saying in the cycling community: If you lock it, you will lose it.

            So when we go on multi day trips we will always find hotels/hostels that allow us to bring our bike into the room, possibly for a fee though. We also pack takeaway food and eat it by the roadside beside our bikes. Apparently there are not enough thieves in Oz to make people do that same :D

          • 2ndeffort on 03/12/2023 - 16:58
            +1

            @AustriaBargain: Speaking as someone with a couple of expensive roadbikes and someone that rides with the local cycling club where literally everyone rides expensive roadbikes, most worth much more than the Titanium bike in this post, none of us ever lock our bikes up. I dont own a bike lock for the simple reason that when I am out on my bike it never leaves my sight. Either I am on it riding it or it is parked outside the coffee shop where I, along with 30 or more others are having a post ride coffee. None of us rides the type of bike you would leave at the station or the shops unattended. When I've gone on cycling events in the country Ive either chosen places with locked cycling storage or where I can lock my bike in my room, either that or I lock my bike in my car.

    • umexcuseme on 03/12/2023 - 00:47

      I can't imagine this would be for anything other than competition riding. Though, one of the reviews says they used it for bike-packing, which is utterly insane 🤷‍♂️

      • utopia on 03/12/2023 - 02:14
        +9

        It's a "forever" bike. I don't think any of these Ti bikes would be used in any pro races vs the stiffer lighter more aero carbon bikes.

        • prhino on 03/12/2023 - 14:33

          Depends on the type of race. These are used in long distance endurance races like Race to the Rock.

          • utopia on 04/12/2023 - 00:55
            +1

            @prhino: Race to the Rock, the event by the Curve co-founder?
            Nevermind that, which Pro rider had ridden this? and what's the winning prize money and under which UCI discipline, points and drug testing regulations.

      • 2ndeffort on 03/12/2023 - 17:00
        -1

        Anyone competing at a reasonable level these days is riding on a Carbon Fibre frame. Titanium bikes tend to be for traditionalist enthusiasts that bemoan carbon fibre and idolise mechanical groupsets, leather saddles, frame pumps and the "good old days".

      • calcium on 09/12/2023 - 17:03
        +1

        I dont think they're as fast as the carbon bikes. If you look at the world tour racers, none of them ride titanium.

        Apparently, the titanium ride has a different feel to it.

    • wasabi3 on 03/12/2023 - 14:16
      +3

      For enthusiasts. Which is fine. I'd love to ride one, but I'd be anxious to leave it anywhere unattended other than in a lock up garage.

      My 6yo commuter has done ~48 000km and cost me ~$1k ($500 for the bike, then ~$500 in replacement parts). In fact, it is running a 24 year old Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur that I have used on every bike I've had since being a teenager :)

    • prhino on 03/12/2023 - 14:19
      +3

      Your $500 Decathlon road bike would shift poorly, weight a heap, and literally not survive the multi-day off-road rides that this sort of bike is used for.

    • boozed on 03/12/2023 - 16:46

      Buying a bike isn't an investment

      • 2ndeffort on 03/12/2023 - 17:01
        +7

        Perhaps not a financial investment but mine has been an investment in my health, fitness and mental wellbeing. Literally one of the best things I've ever spent money on.

        • boozed on 03/12/2023 - 20:41
          +1

          Can't argue there!

      • eeemsee85 on 04/12/2023 - 20:11

        Dunno, what if you ride to work each day and save the money spent on public transport, after a while it'll be an investment saving you transport costs.

    • calcium on 09/12/2023 - 17:06

      I was riding a Shogun metro flat bar (3 x 7 speed) for like 15 years and it was adequate.
      For a milestone birthday, I thought I'd spring for a carbon road bike. First time ever.

      Overnight, with no training or prep, my commutes were 15 to 20% faster.

      Pre enlightenment, I was riding for a functional reason and never for leisure.
      Post, I found myself riding my bike for leisure.
      It is a pleasure to ride whereas before, it was a just a means of transport.

  • firstshot on 03/12/2023 - 00:34
    +8

    Which part of the bike is made in Australia? As far as I know these frames are made in Asia, along with most (if not all) of the components too.

    Nothing wrong with that of course, but it's good to be clear that it isn't a locally handmade bike like a Baum, for example (it's also a lot cheaper than a Baum too!).

    • utopia on 03/12/2023 - 02:07
      +1

      Curve is an Aussie company but I'm certain their frames are not made or welded in Australia.
      Maybe the decals are put on here.

    • Coatesy on 03/12/2023 - 10:41
      +3

      So Curve is all made in China they just stick their branding on it. Personally, if you want a titanium bike thats well priced go for Lynskey as its all made in USA. If you dont mind buying chinese you can get your titanium frame custom made from waltly (think thats the name) for ~ 1300 aud.

  • Diesel77 on 03/12/2023 - 01:40
    +7

    Yes, they are made in Asia but are designed here.

    If you ride bikes any distance and haven’t ridden titanium, then it’s worth doing so.
    Whilst a lot will carry on about weight, it misses the point.

    Titanium causes a lot less fatigue than carbon and is not as fragile.

    If you drop/ fall off carbon bikes they should be properly inspected/ X-rayed as very easy to damage… and not something you want to find out barreling down a major hill. Carbon bikes also have a life span, they are not eternal.

    The weight difference is not as large or important as people would have you believe.

    I dont own a Curve, but they are exceptionally good bikes.

  • utopia on 03/12/2023 - 02:24
    +11

    I don't care for Curve bikes and was tempted to neg it for the false "Australian-made" titanium bicycle.

    But … considering its 2k for the groupset +2k for the wheelset.

    Means it's ~ 2k for a China Ti frame + finishing kit and everything installed, PLUS a local contact to deal with, I'll say it's a pretty fair deal.
    I'll guess I'll give this one an upvote.

    • danwylie on 03/12/2023 - 09:22
      +3

      You're right, it's not a bargain, but it's not an awful deal. I would never pay $9k for that.

  • franco cozzo on 03/12/2023 - 06:28
    +2

    nice pub bike

  • drprox on 03/12/2023 - 06:31

    Good discount but worth considering a used titanium bike at this price still. I've even seen some Baum on the used market that have (imo) much better spec at this price point.

  • beanlanda on 03/12/2023 - 06:32
    +1

    Nice. Doesn’t lock carbon up in bike frames like a N+1 carbon bike, but also good to have more titanium outside the body than inside….

  • beanlanda on 03/12/2023 - 06:38

    Great bike if you do endurance / Audax/ mixed terrain and fly/transport your bike as more robust. Kev has a very high top tube, Belgie has had a few tweaks worth checking the fit carefully.

  • hen dawg on 03/12/2023 - 06:41
    +2

    So is a +50% profit margin normal in the bike world?

    • chrism238 on 03/12/2023 - 06:52
      +2

      Why exclusively ask about the bike world? Let's talk home theatre….

      • Maglia Nera on 03/12/2023 - 06:55
        +3

        and mobile phones

    • jrowls on 03/12/2023 - 10:47

      gotta have a high profit per unit when you're not selling that many and there's a fair amount of design and research going into it. i'd say it's pretty typical for bikes above the $1,500 mark.

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 04/12/2023 - 08:52

      When I did a stint in men's wear retail, 50% mark-up was the margin during the heavily discounted sales. Normal RRP were staggeringly high margins.

  • Maglia Nera on 03/12/2023 - 06:59
    +1

    anyone know what the bikes weight limit is (rider plus bike)?

    • Murkymerv on 03/12/2023 - 07:16

      +61383757066 give them a call !

    • scratchy on 03/12/2023 - 16:45
      +1

      The frame won't be the issue, the wheel build would be. Look for some HED Ardennes or similar with lots of spokes (32 or ideally 36).

  • isaw on 03/12/2023 - 08:50
    +1

    Had a walty frame buily based off a curve GMX+. Can say it's alot cheaper to buy this, especially at thos price.
    As someone said it's a forever bike, and you would go on the upgrade components as time goes on but the frame stays.

    • danwylie on 03/12/2023 - 11:20

      This is the way to do it. If you don't mind waiting a while, and buying groupset off AliExpress, waiting for a good deal on a wheelset and parts etc. And you're comfortable putting it together yourself. How much was the Waltly frame?

  • craving on 03/12/2023 - 09:10

    Does anyone know the weight of the bike, I can't find it in the specs?

    • gasman70 on 03/12/2023 - 09:34

      The Belgie ULTRA 56 frame is 1630 grams.

    • maverickjohn on 03/12/2023 - 09:56

      If this is something to go buy at least for approximate values
      https://www.bikeradar.com/features/curve-belgie-ti-disc-firs…
      It seems to be total weight of just over 8 kg

    • 8azinga on 03/12/2023 - 19:03
      +1

      Probably over 8.7kg fully built with pedals & bottle cages from weights i found.
      Frame - 1630g for 56cm
      Fork - 415g minus however much steerer tube was cut off
      Wheelset - 1438g (I think that is for the DT180 spec so could be over 100g heavier with DT350 hubs)
      Force Axs Groupset - 3109g
      Tyres - 370g x2
      Handlebar - ~300g
      Stem - 152g
      Seatpost - 251g
      Saddle - ~213g or more depending on exact model. 213g is for Vento Argo R3. R5 is heavier and dont think it would come with R1
      Add pedals of choice - ~250g Ultegra
      Total = 8498g
      + other small parts to complete bike. Some of these may be included already - Bar tape, bottle cages, bottle cage bolts, headset bearings, headset spacers, fork plunger, Bottom bracket, wheel axles if not included in frame weight, brake fluid if not included in groupset weight, tyre sealant, tubeless vales, rim tape.

      • DONMAI on 03/12/2023 - 23:43

        That's a pretty light wheelset.

        Some ultralight rotors, about 130gr a pair. If running tpu tubes instead of sealant, 19-36gr per wheel.

        For comparison of frame weight, a random trifox carbon frame comes in at about 1060g for the frame itself.

        Reminder that weight ain't all that, and so isn't Ti.. both have their own allures

        • 8azinga on 03/12/2023 - 23:58
          +2

          The wheels in this deal arent that weight though. It's only that light if you get the DT180 hubs. With these deal, the wheels could be about 1550g which isnt that light for a mid profile wheelset. Shimano C50 is 1461g so lighter and deeper compared to the spec in this deal. Shimano C36 is 1350g and there are lighter wheels than that.
          The groupset is heavy though compared to Shimano equivalents.

          • DONMAI on 04/12/2023 - 00:11

            @8azinga: yeah, thought you were just listing some specs and weights for reference. I found it quite useful. Note that the $6k price is rival, it's +$2k for the force model (!)

            • 8azinga on 04/12/2023 - 00:39
              +1

              @DONMAI: I did list the weights for reference because someone wanted to know the weight of the bike but saying the G4T DT350 wheelset is pretty light isnt true. The component spec of the bike just isnt light, even if you disregard the frame weight. We all know a Ti frame is going to weight more than a carbon and the frame is listed in on their website.

              Force was just a typo. The listed weight is for Rival groupset so is correct.
              Handlebar weight also should be slightly lighter because the stem and seatpost are Zipp SL and I thought the hbar was also just SL but it comes with the lighter SC SL hbar instead.

  • gasman70 on 03/12/2023 - 09:37

    From Reilly Cycle Works:

    Pros And Cons Of Titanium Bike Frames:
    Titanium was first discovered over three centuries ago in Cornwall - and has since rocketed in popularity, commonly used in aircraft, spacecraft, and even missiles. At Reilly Cycleworks, titanium is in our DNA - we are titanium specialists and were the first in the industry to embrace titanium and its 'magical' properties.

    Titanium Bike Frames - The Benefits:
    When it comes to bicycles, nothing quite rides like a titanium bike. If you’re looking for a bike that will last you a lifetime, then you should consider purchasing a titanium bike frame. Lightweight, durable, and versatile, titanium bike frames offer an unrivalled cycling experience.

    Titanium Frames Are Lightweight:
    One of the key benefits of titanium bike frames is that they’re lightweight. Titanium is highly valued in the cycling world as it has a brilliant strength-to-weight ratio.

    Titanium bike frames have immense strength and durability without being too heavy - titanium is as strong as steel, but 45% lighter. If you want a sharp ride, a titanium frame won’t let you down.

    Titanium Frames Make For A Comfortable Ride:
    Whether you’re riding on uneven terrains - for example, on gravel or uphill, titanium bikes offer a super comfortable ride. Alternatively, if you keep to the path on your cycling adventures, titanium road bikes make for a smooth and steady ride.

    Titanium has brilliant shock-absorbing properties, making it the ideal material for road bike frames, mountain bike frames, adventure bike frames, and hybrid bikes.

    It can be tough to find the right balance between comfort and performance, but titanium frames balance the two in perfect harmony. With a natural ability to dampen vibrations, they’re great for both endurance rides and short rides on any terrain.

    Titanium Frames Are For Life:
    Titanium bike frames are pretty much indestructible - they’re weather resistant, strong, and can hold up extremely well to wear and tear.

    One of the reasons titanium bike frames last so long is because they can withstand hard impacts. This can negate the need of having to purchase another one or fork out hundreds of pounds to get your titanium frame repaired if you fall off it or bump it.

    Most damage that occurs with titanium bikes is superficial and easily repaired - the inherent structure of the tubing usually remains in perfect condition due to its immense strength.

    Likewise, titanium doesn’t corrode easily and can withstand extreme temperatures too - making titanium bike frames a great choice wherever you are on the planet. The anti-corrosive properties of titanium mean that titanium frames can brush off road salt, water, and any other elements that other metals may not stand up to.

    If stored correctly and treated with care, titanium bikes can last a lifetime - meaning you won’t have to replace your bike every few years. Titanium bikes aren’t just an expensive purchase - they’re a long-term investment for any serious cyclist.

    Titanium Bike Frames - The Drawbacks:
    Now you have an understanding of the benefits of titanium bike frames, it’s time to discuss the drawbacks. Titanium is arguably the best material you can construct a bike frame with, so there is only one drawback that we’re going to explore in this post - the price tag.

    Titanium Bike Frames Have A High Price Tag:
    The only drawback of titanium bike frames is the price tag - not everybody can afford this luxury item as raw titanium is expensive. Another reason that titanium bike frames cost more than others is that significant expertise and equipment are required when it comes to constructing titanium bike frames.

    As titanium is such a durable metal, it can be difficult to weld. Likewise, titanium is reactive to oxygen when it melts, which can cause discolouration. To overcome this problem, expert titanium welders will use gas to push away the oxygen. They need specialist tools and techniques to weld and cut titanium - not just anybody can create a titanium bike frame.

    If you are looking for a more budget-friendly option, whether it be a mountain bike, road bike, or adventure bike, you could always choose a steel bike frame or aluminium bike frame.

    • danwylie on 03/12/2023 - 12:21
      +2

      A lot of this is marketing fluff. Titanium isn't better at absorbing vibration than any other standard bike frame material at a given weight because the stiffness that comes from a standard double diamond frame construction overwhelms any shock absorbing characteristics of the metal. Any "buzz reduction" compared to a different bike frame comes from a lighter weight frame having more flex. But you'd get the same effect from any lighter weight frame.

      Titanium is lighter than steel for a given strength, but it's also flexier, so you need to have more of it to make an acceptable frame, as a result a high end steel frame will compare in weight

      Saying it can withstand extreme temperatures is hilarious, if you're in temperatures that can affect an aluminium or steel or even carbon frame you've got way bigger problems because you're in a volcano.

      Pick titanium for aesthetics, you do get a more sort of classical steel skinny tube look rather than bulky hydroformed aluminium or carbon. Corrosion resistance is also real, but only compared to steel. Raw aluminium is also corrosion resistant as is carbon fibre.

      Pick a light cheap aluminium frame, add a nice flexy seatpost and handlebars and you'll get as good "magic carpet ride" as a much vaunted ti frame.

      That said, I love titanium for how it looks and it's higher fatigue life and if anyone wants to gift me one I'll gladly accept it.

      • bargaino on 03/12/2023 - 12:50
        +1

        Well said. Yes, you can make any metal tube stiffer by increasing the radius, and making the walls thinner.
        So stiffness of a frame really depends on design decisions, not the material. Logically, consumers should choose what frame characteristics they want, and then let the engineers worry about which material can best achieve that. But of course that ignores the importance of marketing.

        I love titanium for how it looks and it's higher fatigue life

        But of course, steel frames have infinite fatigue life :-)

        • danwylie on 03/12/2023 - 13:01
          +2

          853 for life

          • DONMAI on 03/12/2023 - 23:49

            @danwylie: Reynold has moved from steel tubes to fancy desserts

      • scratchy on 03/12/2023 - 16:42

        Nah Alloy frame you'll get the vibrations through your cranks/pedals. You could look at a Scandium frame perhaps for an alloy frame with a bit of give. I've had a bunch of alloy frames over the years, a bunch of carbon and steel. I don't have any Ti frames (yet). Currently in the garage I have two Carbon frames, a steel frame and the wife has an alloy frame. You can muck around the edges for a softer ride with different width tyres, bar tape, carbon handlebars, seatpost, alloy vs carbon rims but they will all be bandaids over the DNA of the frame which in a large part is dictated by the material used.

        Comparatively most;
        Alloy frames are stiff and pass on road buzz,
        Carbon frames are stiff and dead,
        Steel frames are alive but heavy
        Ti frames which are lighter than steel but with similar road feel (I'm told).

        When I'm riding by myself I love to roll on my steel bike, it's hard not to smile. But it sucks in a group ride when everyone else is on modern carbon bikes.

        • danwylie on 03/12/2023 - 17:29
          +2

          Lol the sooner you understand that most of this stuff is a placebo, the happier you'll be, and the more money you'll save. Frames aren't any one way depending on their material, two steel frames will feel totally different depending on how light they are, because the heavy one will flex less, and the light one more. A light alloy frame will feel more "lively" than a heavy steel one because it's flexing more. A scandium frame might feel better, because it can be made lighter, and therefore have more flex. The effect of a flexy carbon seatpost will dwarf the the influence of frame material of the same weight. Same with the fork. And tires.

          Here's some youtubes,

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CTjg1TFHDc
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8eg4O3OrvM

      • meong on 03/12/2023 - 17:21

        Dont forget that there is a youtube post explaining that you get more comfort from going tubeless and running lower tyre pressure than changing your bike frame…

  • abctoz on 03/12/2023 - 10:36
    +2

    everybody else riding carbon but you buy titanium anyway, every time you get overtaken you sing in your head

    You shoot me down, but I won't fall
    I am titanium
    You shoot me down, but I won't fall
    I am titanium

    • 2ndeffort on 03/12/2023 - 17:06
      -2

      I don't think I've ever been overtaken by someone on a Ti bike.

  • jrowls on 03/12/2023 - 10:49
    +2

    i would also like to know about the 'australian made' factor. you've claimed it in this post but i can't see it anywhere on their website.

  • Drakesy on 03/12/2023 - 10:50

    Still a bit high imho for a sram rival groupset on a bike
    Force then maybe it would pass

  • unrealshots on 03/12/2023 - 11:06
    +2

    I've got a a Curve Kevin, in Titanium, and having carbon, alloy and steel bikes in the garage, the first one I go for every time is the Kevin, because it's so comfortable to ride.

    I've got a couple of wheelsets for it, G4T and 650B alloy, which opens it up to riding on the road, gravel or some light mountain biking…

    Is it a "quiver killer"? To me, yes, because I find it that good to ride…

    The Belgie is a little more road focused than gravel - I was tossing up between the Belgie and the Kevin when I bought mine, and despite riding similarly, the Kevin was a better all round bike for my purposes.

    I could have gone down the Waltly path and had a custom frame built from their geometry, but I like the relationship I have with the owners of Curve, and I think they've built a great product and brand, and give a lot to the market they are in

    At a guess, they'll have the rest of the frame line-up on sale in the coming few days of Curve-mas.

    I'd have no hesitation whatsover of recommending one of their bikes.

  • Ciderfizz44 on 03/12/2023 - 11:32

    Thanks, bought 10

  • Rich73 on 03/12/2023 - 12:18
    +3

    Belgie is an endurance focused bike that can dabble in light gravel, e.g. like a Trek Domane.
    This is nice bike, with good kit on it. 6k is a fair price. Everyone insinuating it's a rip off because the frame is made in China, needs to remember that it's made to Curves spec with their QC (by a factory Curve has a ongoing relationship with), and if the bike has an issue they'll fix it at this end. I have mates who have curves (Kevin's), and they have a high regard for the customer service, and love the bikes

    • hmof on 03/12/2023 - 19:34
      +1

      All Ti bikes are made in China except very high end bikes from Baum, Prova and similar high end makers in the US and UK.

      • unrealshots on 03/12/2023 - 22:15
        +1

        Curve have never said their frames are locally made. I know they've had a few prototypes made in house, but they've always been very open with me that the frames are welding offshore, and that they also have a global warehouse in Asia - I think they said Hong Kong, as they're very high l much a growing brand name.

        I'm just hoping they have G4Ts on sale before Christmas, I'd love a set of dedicated road wheels

        • 8azinga on 03/12/2023 - 22:31

          What price would the G4T's need to drop to to get you to buy and what spec?

        • hmof on 04/12/2023 - 10:20
          +1

          I agree, there's no secret as to where they are made. I have no problem with a Chinese made Ti frame, I have owned one myself in the past.

          I think you can buy a wheel like the G4T for much cheaper directly from Farsports/Wheelsfar and similar brands though.

  • seabombs on 03/12/2023 - 12:46
    +2

    I have a Van Nicholas that I bought second hand ~5 years ago. Feels great to ride and the frame at least should last forever. Love the look of Ti bikes too.

    At my level the carbon vs Ti pros and cons are mostly meaningless. Main drawcard is it's a great conversation starter at the cafe after the ride…

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 04/12/2023 - 09:11
      +1

      One of my riding group has done the same. The Van Nicholas is a nice looking ride.

  • ninnypoop on 03/12/2023 - 13:46
    -1

    Anyone know where to pick up a well priced 29" MTB carbon fork? I've been looking at Chinese factory forks but am a bit concerned on quality control (though I've heard good things and at the end of the day most of these frames/forks are made in China anyway).

    Otherwise might go a steel Surly fork. They are more in my budget. I know they are built like a tank but a carbon fork would be nice.

    Specifically looking to replace my suspension fork with a boost carbon fork (29x110; AtoC: ~470mm).

  • Thaal Sinestro on 03/12/2023 - 16:04
    -2

    So much for a cost of living crisis. Everyone is splashing out on $6000 bikes they will only occasionally use. 2500 click throughs.

    • AustriaBargain on 03/12/2023 - 17:08

      Doubt my car is even worth $6,000. Well it is for some reason according to car sale websites, but it shouldn't be.

    • 2ndeffort on 03/12/2023 - 17:09
      +5

      I've just recently spent more than that but on a new Carbon Fibre frame setup. I spend hours every week on my bike and if I didnt have to spend so much time at work I would spend more. I'm planning on riding on most days over the upcoming Christmas hols. My bike club will organise group rides every day.

    • abctoz on 03/12/2023 - 17:25

      well there’s a significant % of households who own all teh assets they’re swimming in cash apparently

    • maverickjohn on 03/12/2023 - 21:27

      I put up the deal on a giant talon 1 and 2 for a similar percentage off but all under 1k and no where near the reaction this post is getting.. oh well lol it seems people have more money than I thought

      • DONMAI on 03/12/2023 - 23:55

        The savings on this one is more than a couple Giant Talons at full price! I'm waiting for a westpac investment adviser to tell me to hit BUybuybuy

        • maverickjohn on 04/12/2023 - 02:23
          +1

          I know hence why my comment. I guess this may be a high yield for some

      • 2ndeffort on 04/12/2023 - 22:08

        Giant Talon looks like an entry level hardtail MTB, totally different type of bike for a totally different type of rider and a totally different type of riding.

        • maverickjohn on 04/12/2023 - 23:04
          +1

          It was more around something of a similar discount (percentage wise) on a budget level of under 1k. I get they are different was just interesting to see this one being so popular at the price it's at

    • DashCam AKA Rolts on 04/12/2023 - 09:08
      +2

      So much for a cost of living crisis.

      My thoughts everytime there is a deal for a new iPhone or flagship Android.

    • hmof on 04/12/2023 - 10:23
      +2

      What makes you think they'll be only occasionally used?

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