Poll option changes - does the vote count get reset?

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  Ozbar Gain on 04/12/2023 - 15:42

  No

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  scotty on 04/12/2023 - 15:44

  +1

  the changes don't seem to appear in revisions

  Revisions only really store the main text content, and other associated data / meta-data related to the post have to be masqueraded into text content before storing into text history. Not all associated data are implemented for revisions.

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  Drakesy on 04/12/2023 - 15:52

  +1

  i mean, fair point

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  AustriaBargain on 04/12/2023 - 17:00

  It's not exactly NewsPoll, there's no scientific basis behind polling on OZB. It doesn't really matter if options are changed does it?

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    ssfps on 04/12/2023 - 19:11

    +1

    If the text is changed it matters in that it's gone from being an OZB poll to an OZB list of meaningless numbers.

    there's no scientific basis

    It's empirical data, that's scientific. Maybe you meant to say it's not rigorous or controlled enough to care about?

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      AustriaBargain on 04/12/2023 - 19:13

      It polls only OZB users who are logged in at a certain time, and the questions are usually very leading, and being able to see what other people's responses and comments are is even more leading. OZB is probably one of the worst pollsters in the country. NewsPoll, despite being owned by News Corp, is regarded as one of the best, even if they were way off in their recent election polls. But their methods of polling representative samples in a non leading way are as highly regarded as almost any other pollster in Australia.

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        ssfps on 04/12/2023 - 19:17

        I don't think anybody believes ozb polls are trying to be representative of the general AU population, no idea why you think that.

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          AustriaBargain on 04/12/2023 - 19:19

          @ssfps: If one result was leading in the poll it could be due to people seeing that one was more popular and voting for it. By switching the questions half way through it could actually get people to vote the other way, because now they believe the other result was more popular. I bet if I ran some experiments around this that the hypothesis could be proven at least once.

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            ssfps on 04/12/2023 - 19:23

            @AustriaBargain:

            the hypothesis could be proven at least once.

            My favorite science is the stuff that was proven once.

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              AustriaBargain on 04/12/2023 - 19:28

              @ssfps: In scientific inquiry, the ability to demonstrate or validate a hypothesis at least once through experimentation or observation is crucial. When a hypothesis is supported by evidence from experiments or empirical data, it contributes to the development of scientific knowledge and understanding in various ways:

              Validation of the Hypothesis: Confirming a hypothesis through experimentation or observation provides evidence that supports its validity. This helps to establish the credibility of the proposed explanation or theory.

              Building Scientific Knowledge: Each validated hypothesis adds to the body of scientific knowledge. It contributes to the understanding of specific phenomena or processes, allowing scientists to build upon existing theories or develop new ones.

              Predictive Power: A hypothesis supported by evidence enhances the predictive power of scientific theories. It enables scientists to make predictions about future experiments, observations, or occurrences related to the phenomenon under study.

              Reproducibility and Consistency: When multiple experiments or studies confirm a hypothesis, it enhances the reliability of scientific findings. Reproducibility of results by different researchers strengthens the confidence in the validity of the hypothesis.

              Refinement and Revision: Sometimes, validating a hypothesis leads to modifications or refinements of the original idea. New evidence might prompt scientists to adjust their hypotheses, theories, or methodologies, fostering further investigation and improvement in understanding.

              Scientific Communication: Validating a hypothesis allows scientists to communicate their findings to the broader scientific community. Peer-reviewed publications and presentations disseminate new knowledge and stimulate further research and discussion.

              While confirming a hypothesis is an essential aspect of scientific investigation, it's important to note that science also acknowledges the importance of falsification. In some cases, evidence may disprove a hypothesis, leading to the rejection or modification of the initial idea. This process of falsification is integral to the scientific method, as it refines scientific theories and leads to a deeper understanding of the natural world.

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                ssfps on 05/12/2023 - 00:32

                @AustriaBargain: Spewing chatgpt crap doesn't absolve you of being a typical /r/iflscience "i'm pickle rick" tier "scientist".

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                  AustriaBargain on 05/12/2023 - 00:43

                  @ssfps: I'm sure I don't know what a pickle rick is.

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    Lord Fart Bucket on 04/12/2023 - 19:43

    +1

    These polls do matter, they’re used as well to distribute money to charities. Not saying there’s anything dodgy going on there, just highlighting they are not meaningless.

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  Moderatorhamza23 on 04/12/2023 - 22:03

  Does the vote count in this instances gets reset?

  Changing the wording does not reset the votes. The votes remain per line, regardless of what wording is there.