I don’t know, I just can’t impulse buy anything at the moment even on things on good sale
I saw a Tommy Hilfiger message bag I really liked today for $110. Been full price despite the fact how much I like it I just can’t bear myself to purchase it. Money is not the issue. I ask myself one question first: do I really need it? 99% of the time it’s a no
Am I too cheap?
My wife calls me too casual when it comes to personal attire. I often wear old Tshirt even going to higher end shops. I don’t like purchasing things I don’t need. Don’t know about the confidence thing or not as you said
I often wear old Tshirt even going to higher end shops
No one cares that you're wearing a Big W T-shirt at Kmart.
More like an OP T-Shirt at Nobu
I've been wearing one of those Uniqlo tees for 15 years. I feel like the material they used back in the days were better quality than the ones they made today.
If you don't need it, you're making a rational decision.
Owning too many things is a pain - storage, decisions, eventual disposal.
Would you call it rational still even on things I really like? I may have entered the too cheap zone you reckon? I have no issues spending on the Mrs and my kid though on items they like regardless of if it’s on sale or not on sale though
Yeah, not buying things you really like but don't need is emotional intelligence.
Plenty of people are too far the other way where they've bought too many things they've really liked.
It's a little strange to ask the forum. If you want the bag that much, just buy it.
Even more strangely is even if I buy something I like, the next thing i think is if I sell it how much would I lose.
I personally really not a fan of this way of thinking as everything now becomes dispensable but I just can’t stop think like that
@Aerith-Waifu: Might be time to embrace a BIFL attitude - spend more on less for things you need or significant improvements over what you have with the idea that you'll have higher quality and a longer life span.
@Aerith-Waifu: Buy it for life = BIFL
The logic behind this is to spend money in buying articles that you would appreciate and value the most; particularly valuing high build quality, comfort and material construction over more disposable low cost variants. There is also an implied expectation that these better quality articles have substantially higher longevity.
There is a brilliant section from one of my favourite authors that explains this concept so well:
https://terrypratchett.com/explore-discworld/sam-vimes-boots…
Some examples of things people choose to BIFL:
Ever since my wife and I became financially comfortable, we adopted a very BIFL approach and it has worked out incredibly well for us. We rarely (if ever) have to spend money on replacing things that are important to us, and the longevity means that these truly become "ours"… with the nicks and patina telling a story of its service with us.
@ThadtheChad: If any of you guys who aren't familiar with Sir Terry's work he was an astute and funny observer of the human condition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Pratchett
Who inadvertently coined an economic theory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory
@BrettSh: I did include Vimes's 'Boots' Theory of Socio-economic Unfairness in my post above, fellow Ankh-Morpork enjoyer.
I am absolutely a huge fan of Sir Terry's work - and it is in my To-do to go over all of his works (again) and build a physical collection of his books.
@ThadtheChad: If I adopted the BIFL lifestyle, I'd take on a bit of anxiety too.
I reckon I'd prefer to generally spend thriftily and not worry about things breaking or getting damaged, which they very often do.
@mboy: Ofcourse to each their own.
However, from my perspective I don't baby my BIFL items at all.
I would like to reiterate the qualifier that makes an item "BIFL" worthy:
high build quality, comfort and material construction
Not to be conflated with something extravagant and/or ostentatious.
What this means in the context of your comment:
Buy quality shoes = worried about wearing them in dirt/rain/mud
Just regular maintainence should suffice. E.g. my RM williams, Red Wings etc have seen rain, mud etc. They have a hardy and sturdy construction that obviously makes them a bit more hardwearing than my more inexpensive boots. I plan to get a pair of Alden oxfords when I'm in the area, and yes, that will get babied a bit, but each scuff, stain, mark tells the story.
Buy quality fashion = worried you'll get them stained, ripped, damaged
Typically quality clothes tend to not get wrecked that easily. And even if they do, there's always a way to rejuvenate them. If they're stained? Tie dye em. If they get ripped, do a patchwork fix and it will actually make it look bohemian chic. Obviously when you're BIFL-ing everything is not top shelf, you obviously would be buying inexpensive clothes for "destructive use" - e.g. gym, gardening, painting shit etc.
Buy quality furniture = worried that the kids will damage them (or visitor's kids)
Sure. I'll give that to you - but we choose our furniture knowing fully well that we have a rambunctious dog and kid(s) around, so we do accept there will be some wear and tear. However, tends to be largely superficial and depending on choice, easily rectified. In terms of home-office furniture, it would always be off-limits / restricted access (given the equipment, PCs, laptops, servers, camera gear etc) so that's just parenting.
Buy quality car = worried about where to park it
Cars are not exactly BIFL - unless you count super reliable Lexus/Toyotas etc. I didn't BIFL for my personal vehicle and went for a sporty euro - to protect it however, I have good insurance coverage and also a service like Schmick Scratch and Dent - which has been really worthwhile.
To be clear, I'm not trying to change your mind, I understand that individuals value qualities differently. What I may consider worth it, may not at all be worthwhile for you. Also, sometimes BIFL is truly a luxury to indulge in; and financial wherewithal may need to be considered in terms of what is practical.
I had a similar thing, but with a ysl bag that I really loved.
Some 4-5 months later, the price had gone up $500. Then maybe I think 8 months or so later, up another couple hundos.
If you can afford it, just get it imo.
How much is it originally? $500 is steep for a price rise
First I saw was about $1500, then $1970, now $2065.
And in 12 months it will be unfashionable.
Wait you saying it’s going up 33% per year? Would you lose 33% if you sell it in a like new condition?
@Aerith-Waifu: I'm not sure on earlier price. Price I first saw was when I started to follow it.
Probably. I don't intend on selling it. It'll be my special occasion bag.
Second hand is going for $1500 I think, depending on condition. Not bad if you bought at $1500 brand new.
@Ughhh: Oh in that case maybe not a bad idea to purchase early, have all the fun and then sell it and not losing much at all.
@Aerith-Waifu: You'll be surprised mate, this is what a lot of the wealthier ladies do.
Some models are so severely limited that only folks with established relationships with the store are able to even purchase them. These end up skyrocketing in value once the limited production run ends. It boggles the mind.
Someone who works with my Mrs was gifted an old (in mint condition) Hermes Birkin by her grandmother (they were old money). It blew her mind when she got it valued, it was proper 6-figures BMW M-series type of money. It's wild!
@Aerith-Waifu: Yeh. But it really depends on the brand, style and material.
The bag I bought is 100% calfskin.
Am I Been Too Cheap for Not Able to Impulse Buy Anything Even on Something I Really Liked
Am I cheap for not impulse buying something, even if it is something I really liked? FTFY
Yeah I had an aneurysm reading op's title
do you need it? No!
Well I can see myself use it once or twice per month if that….
Not worth it then.
A quality messenger bag is worth owning. I bought one made of solid slabs of saddle leather and it's probably the best thing I've bought, it'll last centuries.
https://www.myer.com.au/p/tommy-hilfiger-essential-polyureth…
This is the one I am eyeing on, looks nice? Lol
Is Polyurethane a breed of cow?
But if you want it and will use it every or most days, then you should get it. You can't take your money with you but you can request that bag be put in your casket.
This is gold!
If you get creamated, the bag can be your casket.
This is what 14 year old try hard drug dealers wear. You are trolling aren't you?
Next you will be telling us you wear red Nike TN shoes.
I actually really like it. Or can you suggest something for suitable for my age? I am 46 turning into 47 this year
@Aerith-Waifu: What would you put in it? Guessing phone, keys and wallet? What's wrong with your pockets?
@onetwothreefour: I tried it, 2 phones, 1 bottle of water, wallet, power bank, notebook or pads, headphone, maybe even a small scarf. And that's about it really.
Or can you suggest something for suitable for my age? I am 46 turning into 47 this year
Are you a drug dealer or aspiring to be one? If so,that bag is fine.
Otherwise I'd say a wallet, put it and your phone/keys in your pockets, and bet a respectable regular mid 40s man :)
@SBOB: I dont see the use for a drug dealer, as the bag isnt too big and there is not too much things he can put in it. More of a teenagers bag
I dont see the use for a drug dealer, as the bag isnt too big
14 year olds are not selling bricks of cocaine or boogie board bag sizes of marijuana. Most drugs are tiny and you could fit hundreds of drugs in the bag you like.
The bag also makes the teen easily identifiable as a drug dealer so randoms know they can approach them to buy drugs.
Sometimes I wish I was naive and not observant to all this shit and went through life with blinkers on.
@Aerith-Waifu: A solid well made messenger bag ideally using leather may be more suitable?
Something tan or black depending on tastes.
I'm sorry but the Tommy Hilfiger polyurethane (yuck!) screams "teenage eshay trying to act hard cuz"
@ThadtheChad: Would you mind send me a link on a good looking leather one? Please dont send LV as I will not buy something that expensive in my life……lol
@Aerith-Waifu: I don't know about this particular one, but I like this style https://www.amazon.com.au/IndianHandoArt-Leather-Messenger-B…
Looks like something a Pony Express rider would wear when carrying important documents across America. You could time travel back any time thousands of years and the bag wouldn't look out of place, a very important quality when choosing a bag in case you ever do suddenly time travel and need to look inconspicuous.
@Aerith-Waifu: Absolutely not LV, don't worry. I was thinking more along the lines of the following:
If small form factor for everyday carry is what you're after:
https://www.rockcowleatherstudio.com/en-au/collections/leath…
Alternatively, if you're looking for something a bit bigger to also act as a quasi-briefcase:
https://therealleathercompany.com/products/the-jones
You'll find styles like this all across the Internet - I'd recommend spending a bit and getting top/full grain leather, and it would actually end up being with you for many years and develop a personality of its own. Leather tends to develop a wear pattern and patina that makes each piece unique after a while of use.
Essshayy lad!
Wannabe Eshay.
Might also need a post to the fashion forum. Faux leather is generally never worthwhile.
I'm surprised they didn't market it as vegan leather.
@Ughhh: "polyurethane" right there in the name, I actually kinda admire their boldness. Usually something like that is hidden way down in the description, with as you said "vegan leather" or "leather look/style" in the name.
Agreed, had a great one that I used every working day for 10 years and this thing had been around the world ~20 times, until it finally needed replacing.
Searched for a couple of years for one that was a suitable replacement. Bought it on sale… loved it, then waited for another sale and bought two more. So now have a working-lifetime supply of messenger bags.
Surely made from leather to last that long?
Yes sorry. Leather. With good quality, but replaceable hardware.
Ok I’ll bite.
Even on Something I Really Liked
Well did you even ‘really like’ it then?
I really liked it until I saw the price. I still really like it.
How much time do you spend thinking about this bag and googling it and checking the price etc. when do you start to factor that in?
Not really just about the bag. Rather in General about why can’t I bring myself to buy the things I like without worrying too much about the price.
This goes to supermarket shopping too as I never buy anything not on sale at the shops as well.
Maybe I am just bought up that way as my grandparents lived very modestly
Maybe I am just bought up that way as my grandparents lived very modestly
Mate, you've had 46 years to build your own identity. There's no rationalising your way out of this.
You're a tightarse, accept it, embrace it and decide on a way forward:
Thank you! I like what you said!
@Aerith-Waifu: And I love that you took this so well - even though it sounds a bit mean spirited! You're alright mate.
I will jump in to say while it might just be you're thrifty, and that's great. If you go shopping for groceries and do not buy anything not on sale….that could be a sign of an unhealthy mindset, possibly even some money related fears….possibly even trauma.
But i also think some people are just like that. And i think the older you get, the less you actually care, and the less you actually truly care about owning that fancy brand whatchamacallit thing. Your brain gets wiser that the hit of dopamine from the purchase only lasts so long. It's hedonistic adaption.
BUT, if you're not buying a relatively practical item, spending the money for a quality item - like $150 sneakers instead of $20 kmart sneakers - which is almost an investment, then yeah, maybe you need to think it over, why won't you spend money on quality items or experiences?
Very good opinion thank you
Yolo
"Got a new job, it's great!"
"Don't buy stuff, but I have money for it!"
Enough with the humblebrag posts…jeez! 🙄😜
The X-Factor is I have not started the new job yet. If I am bragging I would be bragging on buying a Tesla or something and not a $110 bag
Tommy Hilfiger, chavtastic.
They admitted over 20 years ago that they don't even design in-house.
Interesting! Didnt even know that…….
We are all hoarders. Visit a slum in a poor country and see how happy people can be having nothing to loose.
I have gone back to recycling.
My ebay cart has 76 items, every day I delete some and add some more.
If it is not outrageously cheap I let it be.
see how happy people can be having nothing to loose.
Good advise.
See how happy people can be having nothing too loose or to lose?
That makes cense. Chears.
Visit a slum in a poor country
see how happy people can be
Yeah, highly doubtful mate.
People in a slum would not be happy, I have prove! Its called Parasite (A Korean movie won the Oscar)
I gained a bit of weight and I have a job interview tomorrow, I went to kmart tonight and got $25 suit pants as my old pants didn't fit! Lucky I tested my old pants tonight. I felt disgusted I paid full price for it.
Guess you can return it after the interview, just like that lady in the news buying a Christmas tree before Christmas and will return after Christmas. I really dont think its the right thing to do though
Early in Dec, I bought a full-priced shirt at David jones that I really liked, could say it was an impulse buy. I noticed last week it was on sale, $80ish cheaper. As DJ has extended Christmas return, I bought the cheaper one and now will return the original order. For the $80 I don;t mind the little extra time and hassel that comes with it.
dont accumulate for the sake of accumulation…its dumb
I think there's value in knowing yourself and the things you really like and thus spending money on those things. You buy satisfaction and enjoyment, not just the material thing. Money can be a commodity for that end - getting a bargain is a bonus. My 2 cents
I think you been too cheap on the English lessons
lol…..'think you been'?
We live in a world where fear is the biggest driver for how we operate and think about our everyday decisions.
We do not really need most of the things we think we need, but sadly businesses and tech companies rule our lives in some ways because they know us better than we know ourselves.
Firstly, you're asking on the wrong website. Most of the members here won't even look at something if it's not a minimum 50% off RRP.
I feel that because you have wanted it for so long, and you still clearly want it, then just buy it.
No one needs any of the stuff we buy, but life is worth living. What if you died tomorrow and never got to enjoy the things you wanted?
I bought a fossil messenger bag on impulse in 2013, still use it daily for work, and I take it OS holidays. The bag still has years left of wear.
lots of brag for the money for sure
Impulse buy is just another way of saying spend money on something you don't need. A Sale price is not really a bargain if you weren't going to buy it without the sale. Some people have a budget set aside for discretionary/impulse/burn money, fine if you can do that, I do that with wife (at her request) as otherwise she can't control her spending on sale or impulse buys (she has dozens of bags, some of which may only have been used once since new)
I'm very similar to you. I really like how you don't apply it to loved ones - "I have no issues spending on the Mrs and my kid though on items they like regardless of if it’s on sale or not on sale though" I would even apply it to them! My partner wanted a car, I happily bought a couple models up, but it had to be on discount!
I think there's always a boundary to find for time vs money to create efficiency. For example how much you earn per hour vs how much you save on an item.
It's a hard perspective to break, as you've probably thought this way for your whole life and you have to really want to change to be "normal" or at the very least more balanced.
IMO when it comes to shopping there are two extremes: those who spend without reason and those who reason to spend.
One can only accumulate so much crap. Unless it's a bargain
If the rest of australia thought like you then there wouldnt be a house/rent crisis… but there is. Good on you op.
A good tip someone told me is, if you really, really like something, wait 24 hours, until the initial urge dies down a bit and your more rational, if by then you still really, really want it, then get it. Youll realise after this that 99% of it is just fomo.
OP, Tommy Hilfiger semi-frequently hosts 40-50% off family and friends sales. Keep an eye on ozb, there's usually a code every few months. The discount also applies to Calvin Klein and van Heusen.
The discount stacks with sale items too. I got some insane deals last year.
Look here, sometimes we have to fight our monkey brain, sometimes we win sometimes we lose. I reckon just add it to your cart, wait a month to see if you still like it, at least in that time you are making an informed impulse purchase rather than instant emotion purchase. If it gets sold out, maybe it wasn’t meant to be. Cop it on the chin and move to the next man bag.
The state of this site is disgusting OP can't even string words together
I can't like something ALOT unless I like the price first
Oprah grew up poor and even when rich she said when she saw something that tempted her to impulse buy, she would make a note of it for next time she happened to come by there
next time she came by almost invariably that feeling had gone and it was 'meh - don't need - don't want' - walk away.
impulse buys I have made have often been a complete WOFTAM - so there's nothing wrong with avoiding impulse buys - I'd say Well Done !
Not sure but you may lack self-confidence if you need reassurance from others on meaningless personal dilemmas.