Really good deal, ATL I'm pretty sure?
Seen the other lowest price posted here at $399
Excludes NT, WA Remote
Really good deal, ATL I'm pretty sure?
Seen the other lowest price posted here at $399
Excludes NT, WA Remote
trust in intel reliability has diminished.. intel changing motherboards almost every CPU release. and power usage sky high
7600 same performance half the price
Ryzen 7600 is around $320? Not exactly half the price of the 14600K.
The 7600x is floating around $350 now which is better value when the Intel was $400+
https://www.centrecom.com.au/amd-ryzen-5-7600-52-ghz-6-core-…
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/59327/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-…
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2749/bench/Average-p.…
Looks like 14600K beats out the 7600X in just about everything.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2749-intel-core-14th-gen-cpu…
Why link to reviews that are almost 2 years old? Here's a newer one from the same source in Dec 24: https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2936/bench/Average-p.… (https://www.techspot.com/bestof/cpu-value-24-25/) . Software and games change, most notably Windows fixed a major regression with AMD CPUs and Intel's security patches and BIOSs to stop them from killing themself degraded their performance.
does anyone build intel systems anymore?
I need the iGPU for it to work as an office PC and also support gaming shall I decide to play in the future and buy a dGPU
AMD started to include iGPUs on all desktop processors (excluding F series) with 7000 series though…
Yes, and here’s why:
I’ve always been team blue (and many like me) because of one simple fact - I dabble in gaming on the weekend but I work during the week, quite often on the same rig. I limit myself to the top mainstream processors, so no Xeon or Threadripper at home :( I don’t give a rats fat about FPS difference at 1080p. At 4K, it’s my GPU that’s burning, not the processor.
What I do care about is render times, image exports, file decompression and all those kinds of things that actually stop me from using the PC, or progressing with my task. Those things hold up my workflow and make me wait. The gaming FPS doesn’t cost me any time, or force me to sit around and doom scroll while it does its thing.
I’ve relied on a few sources for benchmarks, including Puget Systems (a workstation vendor in the US), for the last few hardware refreshes, and I put more weight on the scores for Lightroom and Premiere.
For certain usage patterns, Intel is still on top. For others, AMD is king. But for me, who still buys Intel, it’s the best choice.
One thing: Puget Systems have had higher failure rates with Ryzen 5000 and 7000 series CPUs than Intel Core 13 & 14 gen processors. That doesn’t fit the whole Intel CPU zaps itself narrative.
This is no doubt due to their care and attention when validating the builds, including setting appropriate power limits and voltages. They don’t just slap them together and let the mobo milk it for all it’s got like most other “pc builders” and the kid down the street. Having personally done this process on my own i9 to prevent the motherboard being stupid (before the issue was even discovered), it’s as stable today as the day I got it.
Sure their data probably isn’t capturing many failures due to the infamous broken microcode, and doesn’t take into account everyone else who just slaps it together. What it does capture though is an even playing field, which we should see now that the microcode fix has been out for so long. (besides ofc the brand new 0x12F that addresses near idle workloads running for a few days) And let’s face it, AMD have had their own issues with microcode lately too - Google’s discovery that they could apply custom (ie malicious) microcode on AMD is a good example.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2024/08/02/puget-systems-p…
For those who still don't know about the issues in 13/14th Gen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1egthzw/megathread_f…
I have a i5-13400F with stock intel cooler - could this explain why my cpu sometimes idles at around 60C? Seems a bit too high, even for the stock cooler. But beyond this, I have not noticed any instability in my PC.
Stock cooler is bit weak when the CPU is stressed but Idles at 60 degrees is not normal. Can you check if you install the cooler properly? Also a thin layer of thermal paste on top of the CPU is critical. Software wise, check your task manager in the OS to see if there is anything running in the background.
It could be normal if he's living up in like Darwin without any cooling
@Tanvry: I'm living in QLD - it's moderately cool here at this time of the year, but the problem started very suddenly. Perhaps the thermal paste has degraded or was never applied correctly in the first place or something. I guess I am here seeking validation on that theory :)
@pyr0maniac: You may undervolt your cpu as well and update your motherboard bios since Intel was aggressive on using high voltage to keep high frequency.
@BennyHe2018: I did a BIOS update just last week and noticed no difference. Did not consider undervolting, will give it a try, thx!
@pyr0maniac: yeah shouldn't be normal, over 60deg on a 13400F those ones dont' even boost / heat up very aggressively unlike their K counterparts
Please share your thoughts, is it worth upgrading from a 12700k ?
(I use it for casual AAA games and general use, paired with a RX 6800)
Absolutely no. Keep your 12700K and it should survive until you build your next rig.
you're probably not cpu bound with the 12700k so no
AMD is …bettter?