Graphic Card Dilemma

Hi guys,

I'm currently in a bit of a pickle of choosing at the moment and need some feedback on current amd gpu owners and nividia owners.

I want to play 1440p val at low quality but above 240hz and recently upgraded from a 6700xt to a 9060xt. My current cpu is 5700x with 32gb ram, ssd for storage and etc.

With my current specs and previous specs frame rates hovered typically around 280ish but I would get a lot of micro stuttering which is really annoying to play with at the moment.

I've seen posts stating val is simply not a good game with amd gpu as they are optimized poorly and wanted to see if any other gamers were facing similar issue. The 9060xt is a temporary gpu while I wait for the 9070xt to go on sale as I have other plans for it however for existing owners of 9070xt or 9070, do you guys experience similar issues?

For the 5070 or 5070ti owners, do you guys have any complaints about optimization?

Thanks!

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  • +2

    val = Valorant for those wondering.

    • Thanks for the clarification for people reading

  • +1

    micro stuttering can be fixed by turning free sync on.
    locking to certain framerate (trial and error) would reduce it too.

    not a GPU issue usually.

    • I'm ideally not wanting to turn on freesync as it adds input lag, but even with freesync it still does have micro stuttering. All I can see is whenver there is a fight or skill usage or just an enemy visible there is an spike in cpu+gpu wait time which is sync with the stuttering. Frame rates are actually stable, its just skips.

      • +2

        I'm ideally not wanting to turn on freesync as it adds input lag

        Freesync doesn’t add input latency. It’s a technology that synchronises the monitor to the output of the GPU. You might be getting it confused with vsync

        • +1

          I'll give it a go, I remember I used to leave it on amd optimized, should I leave it on?

          • +1

            @darkkito: AFAIK there’s no downside to having FreeSync and it helps with screen tearing and microstutter.
            It does sound like something else is wrong so enabling it probably won’t solve your problem.

      • if you have more like screen tearing sort of stuttering, then freesync is the fix.

        if you have like a "micro second pause then resume" sort of tearing, usually suggest minor CPU instability, where CPU pause and error correction before resume.

        On AMD, usually turning off PBO (or even have a static frequency/voltage), and tune SoC voltage will fix.

        • Its more of a skip I should say which sounds like the latter, I'll give your opinon a go, freesync did nothing as expected lol

          Honestly feels worse after windows 11 update, chrome lags and freezes sometimes.

          • @darkkito: below is some setting you can trial, albeit I have plenty of success on my own side, I hold no responsibility on the stability nor longevity of your PC.

            My cat has stepped on my keyboard from this point on, I am not typing:

            assuming you have AMD R7 5700x

            CPU Frequency: 4.5Ghz (I know this is low, usually good CPU holds 4.65 or even higher, but there's minimum performance difference within single percentage and so much easier to be stable)
            CPU Voltage: 1.22v - 1.32v (must set with below setting together)
            Load Line Calibration: The most droopy one, on ASUS usually this is level1, on MSI usually is Level 7, on Gigabyte usually called low. (Read the description on side, don't assume)
            SOC Voltage: 1.1v ~ 1.15v
            VDDP Voltage: 0.9v
            VDDG_CCD Voltage: 0.95v
            VDDG_IOD: 1.05v

            all voltage can be lower (if stable), but not recommend to be higher. Load Line Calibration is crucial, droopy = better. not stable? increase voltage by 0.01v, leave LLC on low.

            Test against yCruncher, enter the command line, select number for: stress test >> enable all test >> start.
            check CPU temp using hwInfo sensor page. note: not HWMonitor. latter sucks.

          • +1

            @darkkito: another lazy/good/safe test is drop your memory frequency by 100 or 133 one step at a time, and observe if stutter is still happening.

          • @darkkito: Have you run Latency Mon? Might give some insight.

            Maybe try play around with your RAM setup too, especially if you have 4 sticks (try run with 2, Ryzen can have stability issues with 4). If it's latency, try look at all your USB inputs, unplug everything and see if that helps, then start adding them back in one at a time.

            • +2

              @freefall101: I ended up installing a shader cache loader? from reddit and that fixed all the stuttering.

              Seems to be a really common issue with amd graphic cards due to them having to run shader cache as game is played whereas nividia preloads during launch?

              Not sure if thats accurate but fixed! Very smooth gameplay after that haha

  • I'd have gotten a card that can do DLSS, personally. Especially when you get into the mid to higher range of specs.

  • Disabling AMD overlay and ReLive can sometimes dramatically reduce microstutter.
    Turning off Enhanced Sync and using regular V-Sync or uncapped FPS helps.
    Using the "Low Latency" profile in Radeon Settings can help a little

    • I've disabled any inlay and etc

  • Have you tried using DDU to wipe the drivers and reinstall?
    Did you enable XMP for the RAM?

    • +1

      XMP is definitely enabled for RAM

  • +1

    No issues for me using a 9070xt, but I usually framecap just below refresh rate. Also playing at 4k, 144hz. Even uncapped though, no micro stutters. Make sure that radeon anti lag is disabled though as I did get micro stutters when using it.

    • saw that, but already disabled too lol

      • Any improvement with the latest drivers? Also, two things, just in case.

        1. Do you use MSI Afterburner? (it can cause issues)
        2. Does Resizable bar show as enabled in Adrenalin?
        3. Do you have any monitor OSD software installed? I had the Gigabyte one and it caused me all kinds of headaches.

        Best of luck.

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