Next Friday, 19 September from 9AM, we’re celebrating National Tradies Day by shouting brekkie for the first 50 legends in hi-vis or work gear at every Chargrill Charlie’s store.
Just rock up, say “Tools Down. Rolls Up.” and your roll of choice, regular hot chips, and 600ml drink are on us!
Referrer and Referee both get $15.
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Dude, its a roll and some chips. Chill.
Except it's not.
Free training. Paid whilst being trained. Tool allowances. Endless tax-write offs.
Meanwhile white collar workers, medical and teachers etc. have to study their ass off in school, get into a uni, build a huge HECs debt, do unpaid industry placements (often having to relocate and pay rent away from home).
Tradies get shit handed to them from the start.
You're right, a roll is a little over the top. It should just be free chips next time.
@solidsnek: Don't worry. A tax payer subsidised tax write-off and an ABN discount on a Ford Ranger will make up for the roll.
@PainToad: Amazing point.
Clearly "Chargrill Charlie's" is a part of the pro-tradie illuminati that has set up these evil injustices. They definitely are not trying to entice a tradie clientele whom would spend a large amount of money during work hours. It couldn't be that.
There is clearly a larger conspiracy at play…
LMAO
Do you have any idea what an apprentice earns? It’s bugger all. Paying for their own tools as well, long days, hard labour and bugger all money?
It’s not all that it’s cracked up to be and I’d be interested to hear more about all these hand outs.
First 6 months are gruelling….
Do you have any idea what an apprentice earns?
They're lucky to earn anything. A uni student isn't paid to learn. They have to work a job to survive and are left with a HECs debt. Tradies get a free education and are paid at the same time.
Paying for their own tools as well,
They get a tool allowance. Uni students don't get any assistance with textbooks, computers, equipment etc. Then pay for relocation and accommodation expenses during work placement (up to several years over the length of the course). That would cost wayyyy more than a few tools.
long days, hard labour and bugger all money
Uni students do classes, endless late nights studying and doing assignments and work.
@PainToad: That's a lie I used to get both an allowance and assistance for studying at uni. We can also get scholarships. And most of the equipment is supplied by uni. So let's not make up crap.
@SarcasticEmu: A very small portion of people from certain socioeconomic groups, high achievers or mature aged students do get some help. But the vast majority of school leavers get absolutely no assistance (besides debt).
@PainToad: About 40% of uni students receive Youth Allowance or Austudy.
Since 30% of uni students are international (and therefore ineligible), that means up to 64% of eligible domestic students are getting these payments.
On top of that, some students are fully supported by scholarships or choose to work full-time actively so they don't need the payments and are actively deciding against them.
So what sort of magic number did you pull out of your ass to end up with just a “tiny fraction”? Or did you type nonsense and hoped you were right on the internet? Let me guess you're an arts student or worse a law student.
I'm not saying we rolling around in money, but, it's not like we're getting nothing either.
@SarcasticEmu: I said "the vast majority of school leavers get absolutely no assistance".
Those under 22 (thus school leavers) are classed as dependants. Unless there's some extreme (violence, serious risk to safety etc.) reason they can't be living at home, which I would hope the majority wouldn't fall under.
So if they're dependent, their eligibility to Youth Allowance is then means tested against their parents (even though they are adults).
If the parents earn more than $65,189, Youth Allowance is reduced by 20 cents for every dollar over this amount.
At $128,000 of paternal income, the child receives zero Youth Allowance.
The average salary in Australia is now $104,520. So if both parents are working (which they likely are if their child has left school), it's very likely the combined paternal income would be over $130,000 and thus receive zero assistance.
@PainToad: Argue all you want, people have bias, statistics don’t.
Sure, I didn’t fully exclude part-time students at first (which is tricky), and there are other factors that influence the numbers.
But once you look properly, it’s clear: 80%+ of full-time domestic students are on government payments.
So no, it isn’t nearly as rare as you claim.
And by the way, since you’re relying on averages, you’ve just outed yourself as a completely math-illiterate baboon.
@SarcasticEmu: Can't you just admit you didn't read what I actually said?
I'll say it again for you.
I said "the vast majority of school leavers get absolutely no assistance". All of the "statistics" you sprouted (with no source btw) are for all domestic students, not just school leavers like I'm talking about.
So that put it more like 80%+ of full time domestic students actually being on a government payment.
Show me source for this BS.
So take you're magic numbers and leave.
What "magic number"?
These are facts. Not magic numbers.
@PainToad: According to the report I link to below, of the 567,700 young people surveyed, around 31% (roughly 176,000) receive Youth Allowance.
There are 500,000 students under 24, and 74% of this group are domestic students, around half of those domestic students are studying full-time and are eligible. Now since some of these groups aren't mutually exclusive it's very hard to get the exact number.
Even then it's to assume these numbers will be above 65%+.
It’s important to note that this figure does not exclude students who may be ineligible for Youth Allowance, such as those working full-time, receiving scholarships, or enrolled in non-eligible courses or receiving an entire different payment.
This brings us even closer to estimated 85% of people who choose to get payment getting the payment.
I'm not entirely sure but I believe there's means tests outside your parents income, since it in some case it would be unfair for some students to be means tested this way. For example some might be distant from their parents, so it would not matter how much the parent earned.
In my case mine was only tested against one parent, and solely based on my dad's income.
Source:
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/children-youth/income-suppor…
@SarcasticEmu: Wow mate that is truely terrible and misleading use of statistics.
Your statistics of "31% received student payments" is
1) Students 16–24, so a heap of not school leavers.
2) The statistics aren't just for uni students. It includes, high school students and apprentices.
Yet you’re applying it to only Uni students.
such as those working full-time, receiving scholarships, or enrolled in non-eligible courses.
You're still not acknowledging parents' incomes affect Youth Allowance.
Truely wild takes mate. Done talking bout this when you just spit out complete bullshit constantly.
@PainToad: You described it as a “tiny fraction.”
But even taking the lower bound, 31% of domestic students receiving a payment, that’s nowhere near tiny.
Nearly a third of students is, by any reasonable standard, a substantial portion.
And if we look at another report on factors affecting higher education completions, the figure is even clearer: 78% of Commonwealth supported students are on Youth Allowance, which is what I said.
Given that I was only offering a rough back-of-the-envelope estimate, since estimating the real number is hard, that’s remarkably close.
So, whether you look at the adjusted or unadjusted numbers, your claim doesn’t hold.
The real question is whether you want to acknowledge the evidence and move on, or keep doubling down on an argument that you already lost and act like a child who didn't get their way?
@SarcasticEmu: The guy has multiple accounts is down voting comments he disagrees with what a loser.
Anyway here's the report I grabbed the 78% figure from for anyone interested:
https://www.education.gov.au/download/5038/factors-affecting…
@PainToad: Bollocks. Apprentices are working on a job site generating profit during their apprenticeships. Of course they should be paid. Uni students are not comparable.
Apprentices are working on a job site generating profit during their apprenticeships. Of course they should be paid. Uni students are not comparable.
Fourth year uni students in many industries work basically full time for free in the industry to get clinical hours up. Generating income for businesses.
Tradies seem to have zero idea how the real world works outside of their bubble.
Just wait another 10yrs and see how much free shit is being handed to them. There aren't enough (apparently) apprentices coming down the pipeline, so the government will be desperate to get more by throwing any incentives.
It does drive me a bit crazy how business expenses are such a total rort. My colleague was constantly upgrading his family's phones, laptops, cars, because his wife and kids are listed as "board members"
Endless tax-write offs.
Yep, endless. And white-collar workers don't have any.
Yep.
Because if you don't kiss the ass of a tradie they get upset and throw a brick through the window.
Can someone help find me a deal for a hi vis vest plz
kmart but cost of vest is same as cost of a meal ….may be borrow from lollipop person at school crossing, they finish at 9am.
people are questioning why this for tradies, but I suspect more than 50 turn up at each store & the additional will buy something so it's business for the store, likely smart marketing
tradies do appear to be treated like Gods & while I have no doubt there are some very good ones out there (no disrespect), some of the work I see is unbelievably poor more so when you consider what some of them earn, which is a shame as the poor ones are giving them a bad rep
We are the only country that treats tradies like royalty and pay them like executives. They in turn fully take the p!ss and provide terrible service and workmanship.
Guess I know where my builders will be on Friday when they say they can't get there until after 10. 🤦
Sounds about right, all you have to do is wear hi vis and call yourself a tradie and you probably would have the same knowledge as most qualified tradies.
Guess we start calling traffic controllers tradies now too..
Tradies are definitely responsible for the majority of Chargrill Charlie’s lunch sales, they’re allowed to give back to their biggest supporters… relax
Wow that free roll escalated quickly . Tradies are no doubt a massive percent Off CC's luch time traffic . People are so uptight . Relax
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Why do we treat Tradies like they're special? They do a job. They are paid for it. That is all. They're not first responders. They're not doing life saving medical research.