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[VIC] Free E-Scooter Hire in Inner Melbourne from 5am to 9am Weekday Mornings in February @ Neuron Mobility (App Required)

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[VIC] Free E-Scooter Hire in Inner Melbourne from 5am to 9am Weekday Mornings in February @ Neuron Mobility (App Required)
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melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 18:35 rideneuron.com (2424 clicks)
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Found out today that along with e-scooters now being made available for hire in Inner Melbourne, they are offering free rides on Weekday Mornings between 5am and 9am until the end of February. Perfect idea for an OzBargain meetup one morning for all those early risers? It's mentioned briefly in this press release as well as in a Herald Sun article and on the TV news. You have to download the Neuron Mobility app to access the orange scooters. Not sure about the white scooters operated by Lime. Normal prices are $1 to unlock and 45c per minute.

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  • jv on 01/02/2022 - 18:38
    -6

    How long will they last?
    They've already started to throw them into the Yarra…

    • jaygee on 01/02/2022 - 18:59
      +33

      Honestly it's kind of annoying that we are so far behind European countries on this - they are everywhere and people don't throw them into rivers or trees.

      I don't see it working out here so just let us Ride our own damn scooters Dan!

      • prhino on 01/02/2022 - 19:22
        +40

        It's annoying that us Australians are so immature/moronic

        • uncoelite on 01/02/2022 - 19:41
          +6

          it's not necessarily the entire nation, but the people within specific cities. Neuron scooters/bikes are in a number of smaller cities all around Australia that aren't Syd/Mel, and they exist perfectly well.

          For the last 2 years I've been using them extensively in Darwin on my trips up there and people all round seem to think they're good

          • Diji1 on 02/02/2022 - 08:22
            -1

            @uncoelite:

            so immature/moronic

            not necessarily the entire nation

            Of course, it's not like everyone voted for privatisation because they were brainwashed by ads.

            Not at all.

        • Cyphar on 01/02/2022 - 20:33
          +9

          Its not Australians. Its Victorians & NSW'ers. Head up to QLD where these are all over the place and people don't do stupid shit with them.

          • i0k-0RU2zd10c on 08/02/2022 - 11:38

            @Cyphar: There are only 2 cities in Australia that matters (in order of importance):
            - Sydney
            - Melbourne

        • arcticmonkey on 01/02/2022 - 21:55
          +11

          Exactly. No wonder Medvedev had a go at us. Australia is full of idiots.

          • jaygee on 02/02/2022 - 00:52
            +3

            @arcticmonkey: Yea but to be fair, that bloke complained about literally everything under the sun.

          • Diji1 on 02/02/2022 - 08:28
            +2

            @arcticmonkey: This is a nation that voted to remove half of the education budget from their own children's education.

            Not because they cut the education budget. Rather it was so they could give the money to the wealthiest schools that didn't require it to be educated.

            You are going to have a generation that is even stupider than this. And these are people that already appear incapable of making rational decisions already unless your aim is to dumb down your own children.

            • PukeyLuke on 02/02/2022 - 10:24
              +2

              @Diji1: @Diji1 The subject of this post is "Free E-Scooter Hire"!!

            • Daz91 on 02/02/2022 - 13:22
              +1

              @Diji1: If you think education budgets have anything to do with learning outcomes please have a look at the USA

      • salin on 01/02/2022 - 19:23
        +1

        British did exact same thing like Aussie….
        But they are not European Union country anymore.

        • Lanushi on 02/02/2022 - 10:55

          So you're saying… it's the British ancestry that results in scooters being trashed!

          /s

          • salin on 02/02/2022 - 11:39
            -1

            @Lanushi: I did not say that, I just cited the facts.

      • King Steuart on 01/02/2022 - 19:28
        +6

        How does the price compare? 45c a minute seems a bit steep for a scooter ride to ballarat

        • Gavman on 01/02/2022 - 19:39
          +1

          U can pay $10 and ride all day

          • Clarky77 on 01/02/2022 - 19:50
            +5

            @Gavman: Ok at least it's capped! Is that only if you keep it all day or can you stop/start and know the max daily charge is $10?
            If they were close to my house and I could ride them to and from work and for any reasonably close trips $10 per day would be great or a longer membership if it was discounted (maybe free weekends if you pay for 5 days) but I saw 45c per minute and thought "No Way!"
            I couldn't see any info about how far around Melbourne they plan to have them but it would be great to see them spread a bit wider than CBD and close by.
            But as others have said how about letting us buy and use our own at least up to 28kmh. How about legislation attempting to be ready for technology for once (it's a bit late now) instead of playing catch up (uber anyone)

            • King Steuart on 01/02/2022 - 19:54
              +16

              @Clarky77: Even though Clarky77 sounds like he just did a line, I agree with everything he said.

            • jv on 01/02/2022 - 20:20
              -2

              @Clarky77:

              and know the max daily charge is $10?

              They aren't capped unless you get a pass…

          • firestint on 01/02/2022 - 20:51

            @Gavman: $15 per day for Neuron. To be precise, 90mins

        • Lanushi on 02/02/2022 - 10:56

          Are you travelling from Melbourne? god damn

      • 8200 on 01/02/2022 - 21:09
        +5

        Europe is not convict stock

        • AuSlade on 01/02/2022 - 21:35

          That made me chuckle. Nicely done :)

      • SimAus007 on 02/02/2022 - 09:30
        +1

        I took one for a spin in Melbourne yesterday, great to see them here.
        As for idiots throwing them into the river, I haven't seen it yet but how do you solve stupid? I didn't see any in the river when I was in Brisbane 2 weeks ago and I used them all along the river. They are huge in Brissy.

        • PukeyLuke on 02/02/2022 - 10:28
          +1

          They would be at the bottom of the river, so hard to see.

        • Lanushi on 02/02/2022 - 10:58

          They've been well established in Brissy for a little while now. I had a ride on one when I was there last month. From what I can tell, they are pretty heavy and would be difficult to dump into the Yarra. Then again strength is tenfold when a group of drunken idiots do it.

        • garage sale on 18/02/2022 - 20:55

          considering the heavy metals in the batteries, people that throw them into rivers have little care for the environment. The scooters aren't as bulky as the O-bikes were so don't seem to pose a problem on foot paths (yet) ….also they get picked up in the evenings to be charged, so effectively cleaned up each night unlike o-bikes accumulated in some areas,

          the limiting factor is you ride to somewhere, and if someone rents it while you are in a shop you walk home ……. also because they are collected for chargeing in the evening , how do you get home after dinner or shopping ……. the LIME scooters in the trial have removable batteries (juicer has to release battery, has conceiled electronic catch). If they can keep them off footpaths where pedestrian walk it might work, some already use GPS to detect if people are riding on footpath and sending SMS and the alarm complains.

          This has more potential than the o-bikes ……

          • SimAus007 on 19/02/2022 - 09:11
            +1

            @garage sale: I ride them to where I'm going then if I know I'm going to use it again within a few minutes I book as soon as I've finished riding it, which stops anyone else booking it and stops it from appearing in the app.
            The only complaint I have is that they are quite expensive. It's much cheaper generally to grab public transport for the times I've used them.
            I wouldn't want to use them on a daily bases or it'd be quite a cost over a month.

      • md333 on 02/02/2022 - 12:34
        +1

        If you can make it to WA you can ride your own now (new laws).
        Unfortunately you are not allowed to come to WA.

    • [Deactivated] on 01/02/2022 - 19:21
      +4

      I watched a video with someone saying they were heavier than bikes, so would be harder to throw in the river or trees. I thought to myself, are you really going to challenge people like that? That's not going to end well.

      Another random thought, 5-9 in the morning, so coming home from a long night drinking. What could possibly go wrong?

      Best scooter video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S590YX6XlMM

      • chartparker on 01/02/2022 - 20:17

        That was our illustrious Mayor who actually said that yesterday in an interview. I'd be embarrassed but then again she's a politician

    • Soldier on 01/02/2022 - 19:42
      +2

      well the process is different, you need to take a pic of where you've left it. I guess randoms could pick them up and throw them, but they beep when they're not unlocked and sense movement

      • BobLim on 01/02/2022 - 22:14

        Do they call someone to come and move them if they're left in the middle of the path?

        • melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 22:31
          +1

          There is an online form to report badly parked scooters https://www.rideneuron.com/bad-parking/

          • BobLim on 01/02/2022 - 23:04
            -5

            @melbourne guy: Quicker and more effective to chuck it in the river though hey? Not that I'm endorsing such a thing…

        • SimAus007 on 02/02/2022 - 09:48
          +1

          I reported one yesterday parked in the wrong location, very easy, just scan he QR code with their app. They moved it very quickly.
          I couldn't move it as an alarm sounds and it's not easy to move anyway.

    • kaleidoscope on 02/02/2022 - 13:34
      +1

      I don’t know why the neg on this, but it’s true. I used to take the bike trail that goes along moonee ponds creek and these yellow bikes thrown to the creek was not uncommon sight

  • meong on 01/02/2022 - 18:40
    +1

    Is it finally legal to ride e-scooters in VIC?

    • melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 18:41
      +15

      Riding your own personal e-scooters is still illegal. These hire schemes are government approved trials and are exempt from the laws which would normally ban their use.

      • TEER3X on 01/02/2022 - 18:44
        +6

        See them zooming around Melbourne CBD all the time, that and those delivery ebikes. Almost none of them riding safely. They're going to get themselves killed or injure pedestrians.

        • Clarky77 on 01/02/2022 - 19:55
          +4

          10 years ago I used to catch a train through the city and the number of ppl carrying small e-scooters blew my mind and the tech was nowhere near what it is now. Guys in business suits mainly using them for the trip from the station to the office. I ask everyone I see riding them around where I live (inner West Melbourne) if they've had any issues with police and none have had any issues of the ones I've spoken to at least although most said they try to keep in the bike lanes when possible. Still I'm gonna wait until it's legal I can't afford the fines if I did get unlucky.

          • AuSlade on 01/02/2022 - 21:40
            +2

            @Clarky77: Dude, you're going to be waiting a long time. If in 10 years, nothing has changed, I can't see much happening in another 10 years. Not for private e-scooters. These ride sharing ones will come and go over time with various companies bringing them in, going broke and the cycle repeating. The Govt. needs something to tax, and blame if it all goes wrong.

          • jv on 02/02/2022 - 13:41
            -1

            @Clarky77:

            most said they try to keep in the bike lanes when possible.

            Riding on the road with an unregistered motor vehicle is around an $800 fine.

            If you have an accident you likely will be up for many $1,000s if not more in liability as you'll have no insurance…

            • Clarky77 on 02/02/2022 - 14:11
              +1

              @jv: Yeah it's insane! If the police decide to fine you with all the different offences that they can if you are seen on a public road it's close to $2k I believe. A couple months back on another thread (I think it was a JBHiFi e-scooter offer) a couple people shared the exact info. You could get away with it for a couple years and only get pulled over once and you would've been better off catching an Uber everywhere. You really are playing roulette if you risk it in Victoria ATM but we all know how much our government loves gambling revenue ;p

      • PainToad on 01/02/2022 - 19:00
        +1

        exempt from the laws which would normally ban their use.

        Unfortunately this doesn’t stop them from causing countless injuries to riders and pedestrians, parked ones from blocking footpaths for disabled people, parked ones from being a trip hazard for the visually impaired and generally making an area look shit with them left every where.

        • melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 19:10
          +11

          Surprisingly, some thought has been put into this. If you park them correctly in designated areas, you get a 50c voucher to put towards future rides. I think the incentive needs to be higher, but it's a start.

          • Clear on 01/02/2022 - 19:18
            +1

            @melbourne guy: Hasn't been much of an incentive for people to do the right thing in Tassie sadly. Fortunately Neuron/Beam are working 24/7 to sanitise, swap batteries and park them correctly at least.

            • garage sale on 18/02/2022 - 21:04

              @Clear: creates jobs for people in a certain demographic …..

              • Clear on 18/02/2022 - 21:24
                -1

                @garage sale: Neuron just went and sacked 95% of their workforce with school holidays being over.

          • Ceri on 01/02/2022 - 19:50
            +2

            @melbourne guy: Its a start but 50c is tiny.. If the parking area is more than a minute away, it's basically the rider's loss..

          • jv on 02/02/2022 - 13:44
            -1

            @melbourne guy:

            you get a 50c voucher to put towards future rides.

            WOW !!! that will give you around 1 minute and 8 seconds of free riding time…

          • Little Wog on 02/02/2022 - 14:22
            +1

            @melbourne guy: The cashbacks vouchers only work for pay by minute ride, can't use them on the passes.

            • Parking reward: 50c
            • Helmet reward: 50c (Take a selfie with the helmet on)
            • Free ride for 10mins: $5 (referral)
            • Safe Rider Quiz Award: $5
            • Vaccination Campaign: $5 ($10 in total)
    • jv on 01/02/2022 - 18:44
      +4

      Is it finally legal to ride e-scooters in VIC?

      Only the hire ones and only in 3 areas in Victoria

      • Clear on 01/02/2022 - 18:47
        -1

        Come to Tassie and you can catch the free ferry for eScooter riders across the river with me and then a nice romantic ride on the road through the suburbs ;)

    • FDA2021 on 01/02/2022 - 19:01
      +1

      Lol I had no idea VIC bans e-scooters. I've never heard of that law

      • melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 19:08
        +5

        There are existing laws that have applied to powered scooters for years. Any motorised scooter that can travel more than 10 km/h or has a power output of more than 200 watts is banned.

      • ialam99 on 02/02/2022 - 06:30
        -6

        In Melbourne, most things are against the law. Welcome to the most locked down city in the world.

      • jv on 02/02/2022 - 13:45
        -1

        I've never heard of that law

        The law existed even before e-scooters…

        They are unregistered motor vehicles.

      • garage sale on 18/02/2022 - 21:06

        lots of e-scooters pass me on the bike path when I cycle to work in Melbourne, thought they must be legal

    • Gavman on 01/02/2022 - 19:21
      +3

      Yes if u pay and hire these commercial ones… no if you have ride ur own. Very Lame laws when it comes down to it but it’s a 12 month trial to gather data so hopefully they make it legal for all after that.

      • BobLim on 01/02/2022 - 22:17

        IMO all "trials" should have a clearly defined aim and measurable success/failure criteria - any clues?

        • Daz91 on 02/02/2022 - 13:26

          Replacement of car journeys, first/last mile transit links, carbon emission reduction, increased patronage of local businesses

    • Cyphar on 01/02/2022 - 20:33

      Speed is capped at 20km/h.

      • Skyllian Blitz on 01/02/2022 - 20:48
        +4

        Too slow for the road and too fast for the footpath. One was taking up a lane on Johnston St, every move he made was as if he wanted to be wrapped around a bullbar.

    • 8200 on 01/02/2022 - 21:18

      I see a loophole 👌

    • TommyGun on 02/02/2022 - 00:24
      +5

      This country is getting ridiculous, at least Victoria. The amount of laws and red tape, tick the box, treating it's citizens with contempt is really starting to get to me. Setting the bar to the lowest standard penalises the majority of pragmatic intelligent people who just want to live their lives. Rant over.

    • SimAus007 on 02/02/2022 - 09:50
      +1

      Only the rental ones are legal so far and only to be used in 3 council zones, Melbourne, Yarra, Port Phillip.

  • TEER3X on 01/02/2022 - 18:42
    +2

    Found out today

    That you watch the news on tele.

  • nezumi on 01/02/2022 - 18:46

    While it shouldn't be an issue, everyone should be aware that if you are riding one of these, the police can stop you for a random breath test (unlike on a pedal bicycle), and there are fines if you are over 0.05 BAC.

    • Maz78 on 01/02/2022 - 20:23

      Errr. Pretty sure it's the same for a bicycle -> You CAN be breatho'd and need to be <0.05

  • tonyjzx on 01/02/2022 - 18:46
    +2

    what i find most interesting is how 200mw plus units and greater than 10km/h is banned for private users BUT not for Lime

    curious how that works

    • melbourne guy on 01/02/2022 - 18:51
      +5

      Government is likely worried about the fact personal e-scooters can sometimes travel as fast as a car. The ones in the trial have a 20 km/h limit.

      • Little Wog on 01/02/2022 - 19:53
        +4

        They can travel faster than cars, in CBD's and shopping centres. :p

        They can zone cap them, they will say. "you are entering a low speed zone" and slow you down.

        Low speed is 15km/h, if it's zone specific it could be 10km or 12km and high speed 25km/h. (this is in QLD though)

      • BobLim on 01/02/2022 - 22:19

        There's also presumably a strictly limited number of them

        • Little Wog on 02/02/2022 - 01:06

          They started with 250 where I am and added another 75.

          Only time they are hard to come by is holidays / long weekends. You shouldn't have a hard time finding one. On the app, you can actually reserve one which will give you 15mins to claim it.

          • BobLim on 02/02/2022 - 02:03

            @Little Wog: I was thinking more along the lines of, next time there's a Xiaomi scooter deal on, 500 additional scooters could be on the roads the following week, or a much cheaper model comes out and almost everyone gets it etc.

            Big potential for a sudden and massive increase, assuming most people follow the rules and that's the principal reason they haven't purchased one already (e.g. myself)

    • PainToad on 01/02/2022 - 19:01
      +1

      BUT not for Lime curious how that works

      $

  • blurg64 on 01/02/2022 - 19:14

    Not sure if this is old news - but there are some pretty stiff rules now if you are on an escooter and have a driving license whilst the trials are on - https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-s…. Lots of ways to lose your license :(

    • pharkurnell on 01/02/2022 - 19:34
      +1

      Its old news….

    • CommuterPolluter on 01/02/2022 - 20:24
      -2

      Shit like this is why I will never transfer my license to Victoria.

      • jaygee on 02/02/2022 - 00:56
        +1

        Do you really think your licensed can't be suspended or something just because you have another states license??

        • CommuterPolluter on 02/02/2022 - 08:24
          +1

          Yes, my license needs to suspended by the authority which issued it. They can only ban me from driving in Victoria.

          • jaygee on 02/02/2022 - 10:34

            @CommuterPolluter: "They can only ban me from driving in Victoria."

            Uh.. so same thing if you live in VIC then?

            • CommuterPolluter on 02/02/2022 - 10:46

              @jaygee: Yes if you don’t leave the state in that period, no if you do. Moreover, I wouldn’t need to reapply for my license at the conclusion of the period.

              It’s really a moot point as I’m not engaging in behaviours which are going to result in losing my license. It also depends on the particular offence whether your home jurisdiction will also cancel the license.

  • Ceri on 01/02/2022 - 19:40
    +4

    Nice. Hope this takes off so we can see wider adoption across the metro cities

  • Laziofogna on 01/02/2022 - 19:40
    +2

    Just for a moment I read it was 9 pm and thought it was interesting.

  • Little Wog on 01/02/2022 - 19:43
    +9

    The are great, but highly recommend using the passes if you plan to use it over the weekend or plan to ride it around for more than an hour.

    If you're paying per minute 1h30mins = 90mins = $40.50 + $1 scooter hire

    1month pass: 90mins per day = $45 per month.

    If you do get a pass and ride at night make sure you log off before midnight and then log back in after. If you ride it for 89mins and stop your ride at midnight. The time from the previous day ticks over thus giving you 1 minute to use the next day.

    You can't ride them if your under 18 or under the influence of alcohol, but they did make sure you can now visit most of the schools, pubs and bottle shops on the map.

    • Tleyx on 01/02/2022 - 22:13
      +3

      The oer minute socks it should be per km as the per minute means people are penalised for riding sensibly in a higher charge

      • Little Wog on 02/02/2022 - 00:53

        If you stop and talk to someone without ending your trip, you are charged for it.
        They send you a reminder though, but you can't use your phone while riding that's an offence :P

        So if your paying per minute, you want to get from A to B asap.

        • Tleyx on 02/02/2022 - 13:16

          That's the other thing if you accidentally forgot to end your trip it still charges you even though they know the phone and the scooter is not next to each other

  • jaimex2 on 01/02/2022 - 20:09
    -8

    I thought these weren't legal in the nanny state?

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