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[VIC] Free E-Scooter Hire in Inner Melbourne from 5am to 9am Weekday Mornings in February @ Neuron Mobility (App Required)

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Found out today that along with e-scooters now being made available for hire in Inner Melbourne, they are offering free rides on Weekday Mornings between 5am and 9am until the end of February. Perfect idea for an OzBargain meetup one morning for all those early risers? It's mentioned briefly in this press release as well as in a Herald Sun article and on the TV news. You have to download the Neuron Mobility app to access the orange scooters. Not sure about the white scooters operated by Lime. Normal prices are $1 to unlock and 45c per minute.

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    • +8

      NSW is the nanny state. VIC has them legal for rentals but not for private-owned e-scooters.

      NSW doesn't have them legal AT ALL

    • +1

      You really thought you did something huh?

  • +2

    NSW needs to follow this now. E-scooters still aren't legal here even in rental form

  • These work great in darwin!

    • +1

      Outrun a crocodile?

  • So are these things like solar powered or do you have to pull up in a charging bay or something? What's the deal?

    And what's to stop someone downloading the app, using a prepaid debit card from Coles, and keeping the sucker? Or adding to the pile in the Yarra? Or melting down and selling the metal? Or a funny forth thing?

    • Not real sure about the second part of the question but for the first part, the operating company takes them off the street when they have low battery or need repairs and swaps them with fully charged, working scooters.

      • Ah! I thought that might be the case, but then I figured it'd be more money than it's worth to have a cleanup crew running around after these things all the time. Must have an insanely long lasting battery or something for it to not be flat all the time. I've had an eBike (www.puriebike.com.au one of these things, there's a million scooters and bikes and stuff it's hard to know what someone means and most are unaware this sort of one even exists) for a bit over 2 years now and at this point if I'm not charging it every other day it's gonna be lucky to have 5/10k's in it before it's flashing low battery and slowing down to unusable speeds.

      • +1

        They have swappable batteries

      • +3

        The batteries are removable so they'll normally swap the battery then and there. After that they clean them and line them up together at the edge of the footpath.

    • You can't use pre-paid debit cards.

      Also the battery range is around 40km fully charged. I managed to do around 14km in an hour from riding them, also tried riding one with 5km range left home and didn't go flat when I did 6km in distance. On the app you can see how much power is left on the scooter, by looking at the orange bar around the outside of it, more orange more range. If the range is too low, you wont be able to use that scooter and it shouldn't show up on the app.

      As Dez91 said below the batteries are swapped.

    • -1

      if you want steal one it would not be hard …… they have a speaker / alarm if you try and move them, if you put duct tape over the speaker they aren't noisey as you move them down the street (one was dumped infront of my house and I moved it to the street corner naturestrip) , or into your car so you might come from Pt Cook by car to Melbourne, tape over the speaker, into the car and take it home ……. they have GPS so you might want to stop somewhere and take the SIM out, looking at what happens in the USA, people hoard them in their garages and get paid bounties for "finding" lost scooters ……
      legally probably not much different to stealing someones bike and stripping it, the amount of aluminium in one of these, the batteries, the motor much more value than the o-bikes.

      but yeah, prepaid SIM, pre-paid credit card so that you ride it to a river and dump it ….and then walk home ?????

  • Why is Aus so backwards with scooters? Come on NSW, do something!!

    • +4

      Because the government gets no $$$ out of it

      Car they get registration, and fuel excise

      • the issue is also one of these at 20kph on a foot path can kill someone and with a private scooter they aren't insured, or registered so the rider can do a runner as had already happened where pedestrians are injured and rider does a runner…. with these rentals they have the mobile phone number and IMEI of the rider at least so police could track the rider down down, maybe private ones need cheap cheap rego to cover insurance.

    • Tassie isn't. Legal on footpaths up to 15km/hr and up to 25km/hr on roads. Those whole "200W motor" rules don't apply either. If your motors are 1200W and you do 25km/hr on the road then you're not breaking the law.

  • +1

    Damn this Government!!

    • +3

      The NSW Premier is too busy killing people by letting covid get out of control to worry about this

      The ex NSW Premier is too busy sending text messages saying Morrison is a "horrible person".

      Priorities.

      • -1

        Damn straight !!

      • Let me guess, labor voter?

        • -1

          Nope.

          Let me guess, Morrison lover?

          Do you disagree with what I said? Even Morrison's mates call him horrible and a psycho.

          • -1

            @arcticmonkey: Oh yeah you’re definitely not a Labor voter 😂

    • +3

      Absolutely. Terrible laws. Vic is such a police state and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some financial pushback on fully legalizing them for personal and pedestrian path use.

  • Didn’t have a great experience when I tried one of these in Canberra. The button you push to stop didn’t release and it kept going after I jumped off, nearly went into the lake…
    Do you get fined if something bad happens to scooter

    • Stop button? Don't they just have brakes on the handlebars?

    • $15 fine for not returning the helmet. I see helmets all over the place, not sure if anyone has been fined for losing them.

      They do have brakes on both handlebars, no actual stop button.
      you have to hold your thumb on the accelerator to go, so if you release that it will slow down.

      They are tracked very well, so if you did accidently crash it in the lake or damage it, you will be held liable. (again I don't know anyone who has been fined)

      • not sure if anyone has been fined for losing them.

        Nothing stopping someone else from
        throwing it away if determined enough :-)

      • +1

        Yeah it didn’t slow down when I released it so I think it was jammed in accelerate. But guess could of just been user error haha

      • the helmets have a clip so to steal one you need to cut the clip so it would be easy to tell if person didn't return or got stolen (clip but no helmet vs no clip no helmet), not sure if if it's smart enough to check if helmet has been returned e.g clip inserted at end of ride.

        Where I am it's lots of people zooming along the beach and having fun rather than a way to pick up groceries or beer, and I don't think in my area people care about $15 when the sun is shining and they want to have some fun.

  • +2

    Anyone spotted any deals on jousting sticks?

  • Do I really have to download the app to see what part of the 'inner city' they are in?

    • You can hire and ride them throughout the Melbourne, Yarra and Port Phillip council areas.

      • they picked good areas, port phillip has 7 kms of dedicated 2 lane bike path along the beach , and you can take bike paths from port philip into the city (Melbourne) ….. I think a lot of use are visitors to the area who don't want the hassle of parking a car. If you hired one for the day when the sun shines you could have some real fun and park you car in an all-day zone ….
        Some CBD bike paths are tooo narrow , but there are enough dedicated one to get through the CBD.

  • These worked well in Adelaide where there are wider footpaths and roads and way less people/traffic. As much as I like them Melbourne is too populated and our footpaths and infrastructure cannot support these

    • You’re not allowed to ride them in the footpath, just bike lanes and roads

  • -1

    Hey, let's give the most obese nation on earth, another lazy way to get around. Because pedalling is too hard I guess.

    Dumbest idea ever. Three months is a trial, not twelve months.

    Bourke st mall is a no-go zone, according to the software on the scooter. But I saw two lemmings ride the scooters right into the pedestrian entrance of Waterfront city shopping centre, docklands today.

    Mr. Nueron talks about getting "cars off the street"…. what a load of rubbish. Who is gonna ride one of these with the Melbourne wind chill and temperamental weather for six months of the year?

    Pedestrians don't even have enough situational awareness to walk across the road, many times jaywalking or walking directly in front of the same tram they just alighted from!
    These irregular drivers are going to cause many accidents. In all the happy media about the launch today, no mention of injuries like this report from QLD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmMLR39Zho

    And what about older people? Many people I see walking around inner city can't even climb aboard a high floor tram without a lot of effort. Where is the media showing Lord Mayor Sally Capp taking one of these deathtraps from her Docklands high rise apartment to her office?

    Edit: oh wait, I found it! Here she is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2tSfLQa9Ww

    Poor cyclists now have to put up with delivery drivers on petrol scooters using their lanes too quickly, to now e-scooters going too slowly.

    Can't ride the scooters on the wrong side of Chapel St.

    Are you allowed to transit the "dark zone" of South Yarra to get from Balaclava to Burnley or does the scooter chuck a wobbly and power down?

    E-scooters are allowed on footpaths if speed limit is less than 50km/h on the street. So confusing.

    At least Chapel St has a bike lane, but Swan St Richmond is packed with patrons on the weekend, on the footpath. Then you have parked cars, and a gap of about 40cm, then the moving traffic including trams. So you will have a pack of drunk scooter riders, two on each scooter, weaving through the traffic, or weaving through the patrons?

    After 8 minutes of riding, a 2 hour Myki pass is cheaper. By the time you get yourself sorted, 2 minutes have gone by, so probs you can travel 2km for $4.50 in 10 minutes, vs walking the 2km in 20 minutes for free, plus exercise.

    Used dahon folding bikes go for about $250 in reasonable condition, so if you rented 100km of scooter rides, you could have bought yourself a folding bike for the same money.

    • +2

      E-scooters are allowed on footpaths if speed limit is less than 50km/h on the street

      Not my reading of the rules - sounds like the trial scooters are classified as a motor vehicle / "second-class bicycle" so you can only ride where bikes can, and only on roads without a bike lane when the limit is 50 or lower. No footpaths at any time. https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-s…

      Scooters classed as a motor vehicle can't be used on footpaths or use other provisions for a "wheeled recreational device" https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-r…

      • +1

        Yep, that's the first thing that the app tells you when you log in as well!

        • My reading was incorrect "It’s important to note that e-scooters are not permitted on footpaths and roads where there is a speed limit above 50 km/h, even if there is a protected bike lane. "

          So that means you can't use roads like Punt road.

          Can't take chapel St as that is Stonnington council.

    • -1

      Tassie started their 12 month trial in December with Beam and Neuron. For the first week you could go almost anywhere and now nearly 2 months later there's plenty of no go and slow zones. Give it time and Neuron will do the same around Victoria to restrict areas.

      In Hobart they've now reduced the hired scooters to 10km/h on footpaths, banned them in the CBD from 8am-6pm and for hooning/law breaking there's a 3 strike system. The first offence is a one month ban.

      Honestly the same crap happened decades ago with skateboarders.

    • +2

      Gees where's the TLDR version?

      All is see is rambling. Your rambling isn't even correct.

      You must be fun at parties.

    • -1

      There is a risk that people who haven't done enough KMs might lack the street smarts …. I cycle to work so know when or where dumb things happens with cars and pedestrians , for people that aren't street smart giving them an e-scooter that can do 20kph, bit like learning to swim by telling someone to moves their arms, kick their legs and get them to jump into the pool.

    • Rental scooter is definitely not cheap transport, but I know in bayside when the weather is good it's visitors to my area that find them appealing ….. as a serious mode of transport would you depend on a ride home based on "lucky I found a scooter" or now to ride to office "lucky I found a scooter" ….. vs now to walk home, or get an uber, or public transport or "sorry I'm late for work, there were no free scooters close by" ……………… the CBD is dead, they will do anything to get people back in and add some vitality … some of the dumb things they put on docklands, and most people don't want to come back in …$38 pw for train ticket, dry cleaning work clothes, and 2 hours fo your life gone commuting ……

      if you need a scooter daily, you will buy one, if you are visiting and just want some fun you rent one ….like bikes, $40 to rent a bike for the day ok for ride along the beach and around the lake when visiting bayside…. if you need it daily to get to work you buy one …. I have 2 bikes

  • +5

    Thank you. Went for my first morning ride on these beauties.
    Amazing way to commute in town.

    • It is only the fee to unlock them free? or was it 100% free (unlocking and riding)? Cheers!

      • +1

        100% free. (Unlocking and riding)

        • Thanks!

  • I finished my ride at 9:03, it was still free. Is there a time limit for these free rides?

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    • +2

      Sounds like if you start the ride before 9am and continue riding after 9am the ride is still free. I wonder how long they let you keep riding without paying? Someone with free time may want to experiment. This potentially makes the deal more appealing!

  • I much prefer the Lime scooters. The neuron ones ride horribly

    • +2

      I totally agree. Lime is faster, the bell sound is louder and I think they are easier to maneuver.

    • LIME has front suspension and larger diameter tyres ,

      seems if you could hack one , you could ride one and because it looks like rental low cost per km and no hassle from police, LIME are specific rental and electronics tightly linked (controller talks to battery to unlock they are made by OKAI https://eu.okai.co/pages/es600-next-generation-sharing-elect…) leave the paint work and police would think you are riding a rental, just need to bike lock so a juicer doesn't collect it

      • Lime's scooter is not made by OKAI. They are made by Lime. All firmware and hardware is Lime.

  • +1

    Watch out for the bully coppers in Melbourne. They started fining people now on their private scooters… Just saw a poor girl being picked on and fined and coppers told her only neuron and lime scooters are legal

    • Fantastic. Maybe they can start fining drivers jumping the green on hook turns, or blocking intersections too.

      I was under the impression that all three were in the "too hard and/or don't care" basket/

    • +1

      Vic police running a protection racket…surely not

    • -1

      so they should, these e scooter riders are inconsiderate p*icks

      • +1

        think issue is rental scooters are allowed but private not ….. so what is the reason, also I used to see lots of private scooters when cycling to work it would be sad if those riders get singled out now as for some people it's how they get to work, so now it might be car, bike or public transport …. public transport is $38 per week vs charge your private scooter

  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10500099/E-scooter-…

    this wont help for making e scooters legal

    • They don't ban cars despite people dying in them every day.

      And it wasn't one of these ones being trialled.

      But yes, unfortunate for sure.

      • not all areas are suitable for a scooter, some areas aren't even suitable for a bicycle ….. it's no fun when a car traveling 60kph passes 50cm away from you on the road, worse with trucks passing, on a scooter I would poop myself ….

    • +1

      i saw that, very sad story.
      also unfortunately no helmet. please wear your helmets. i see plenty of people in the city riding the neuron's or limes and they don't put their helmet on…why would you not do that???

  • +3

    Just letting everyone know, I started my ride at 8:55AM and finished at around 10:20AM, no charge - it was free. Very fun to ride, now I want one for my own use (was on holiday and legal in QLD).

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