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16GB Nexus 7 from EBGames for $297.97 - Includes FREE Transformers 3 (+$25 Google Play Credit)

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16GB Nexus 7 from EBGames for $297.97 - Includes FREE Transformers 3 (+$25 Google Play Credit)
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ragflan on 06/07/2012 - 10:12 ebgames.com.au (5853 clicks)
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Nexus 7 16GB is currently selling for $299 from Google Store + $19.99 shipping for a total of $318.99. You can get the 16GB version from EBGames for $297.97 with a free copy of Transformer 3 and $25 of Google Play Credit. Only marginally cheaper but if you had any trouble with the device, bringing it to EbGames would be easier than shipping it back to Google I guess.

EBGames also charges for shipping but you can pick it up.

NOTE: This is a PreOrder. EBGames says that tablet will be available on 27th July.

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        • scrimshaw on 06/07/2012 - 15:07

          I'm not sure why people would wanna keep that many movies in a tablet.

          Convenience, mostly. Why do people buy large capacity MP4 players like iPod touches and iPod classics? Same reason, they don't want to sync and transfer all the time, which can be time consuming.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 15:11
          +1

          I'm not sure why people would wanna keep that many movies in a tablet..

          I wasn't sure either, until I started using my tablet on plane trips. I usually won't know what I feel like watching 2 weeks ahead of time, so I'd rather copy as many tv shows or movies as possible to the tablet so I can decide later.

        • syl on 06/07/2012 - 15:48

          Transfer 64 gb worth of movies in 1 go will take around the same time if done separately.. If you transfer it into microsd….. Via tablet, & it will take longer.

          Its movies you're talking about.. You don't watch the same movie more than twice, do ya? Well, Def not transformer they're giving us for free.. Once is enough

        • atlas on 06/07/2012 - 16:01
          +1

          The point is - for times when you will be away from your computer more than just a day then having the extra capacity is very useful.

          If you have a 20 hour flight to Europe, a single movie ain't going to do it for you. Hell you can probably knock off about 6 movies, which would easily take up 40-50 gigs. Or alternatively a few seasons of Family Guy or whatever floats your boat. And that's not counting the return flight home, or any time in between.

          Decent airlines these days also have USB/power outlets built in to the seats (even in economy) so power is usually not an issue either.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 16:02

          Step 1: Select all the movies and TV shows you want and paste it to the SD card all in one shot.

          Step 2: Go to bed.

          Step 3: When you get up the next day, all your movies and shows are ready to go anytime, anywhere. No waiting around, no need for a laptop to store the other movies/tv shows.

          When you're travelling, you don't have your 2TB media center with you.

          You might be at a friend's place and you all suddenly decide to watch something. Oh look, you have a whole selection right there on your tab. You can either pop the card out and copy it to their computer, or just grab the HDMI cable that you kept in your car glove box for situations like that.

          Was Transformers 3 that bad? Hmm.. I could have sworn I watched it, but I really can't remember anything from it.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 17:59

          Alternative:

          Bring your portable hard drive that has some of your movie collections (250GB, 500GB or 1TB) and use the USB OTG method and watch it. If you have USB3 drives, copying files won't be so painful normally.

          I just want to point out USB OTG is more useful. I dislike copying large files to microSD cards. 10MB per sec (and my best card reader can only do 20MB a sec). Just because you are using a tablet does not mean you have to do things the slow way. You use your tablets to make things easier for you (wireless movie streaming, quick Web browsing etc…). Take full advantage of Android ICS.

          Don't make microSD sound like something amazing coz. it is not. Google did cripple the USB OTG support for this device (that's a bigger issue for me than no microSD slot).

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 18:09

          I just want to point out USB OTG is more useful.
          Yes, if the device supported it. The Nexus 7 cannot mount volumes over USB-OTG.
          http://www.anandtech.com/show/6061/mhl-and-usbotg-on-the-nex…

          I highly doubt the tablet will be able to power the hard drive anyway. If it can, the hdd will drain the battery in no time. Tethering a tablet is a bit of a hassle anyway.

          I dislike copying large files to microSD cards.
          I always do it before I go to bed, or while I'm doing something else. I don't notice
          the speed that way.

          Don't make microSD sound like something amazing coz. it is not.

          You yourself know that having a midroSD slot is better than not having a microSD slot.
          If hypothetically there was a version Nexus 7 with a microSD slot and one without, and the microSD version cost $10 more, which would you buy?

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 18:17

          Current Tegra 2 tablets can handle them so I don't see why Nexus 7 cannot.

          If microSD version costs $10 more. If people can figure out a way to enable proper USB OTG on Nexus 7, I will take a $10 saving. I already have a really small fingernail size microSD reader. Besides, I don't use microSD cards on my tablets.

          I prefer to watch 1080p files. I just don't see the point copying movie files at 10MB/sec.

          microSD is least of Nexus 7's problem. In order of issues: USB OTG, HDMI… then microSD. Nexus series devices never had microSD.. so why you think Google will change it now?

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 18:30

          One of the cool features in Honeycomb (and ICS) is USB OTG. It is one of the features that i-Devices cannot do. If USB OTG is done properly on Nexus 7 (which will run Jellybean), then I doubt people will complain about lack of microSD (just get a thumb size microUSB reader - you sometimes get one for free when you buy a decent microSD card).

          Besides, if you really like to show movies to your mates, pretty sure USB OTG with a portable hard drive is a better approach.

          I would rather lobby Google to allow USB OTG properly than ask them for microSD slot with a crippled USB OTG.

        • syl on 06/07/2012 - 18:43

          Netsurfer
          Exactly. I do prefer external slot but it's not gonna happen. Class 10 or the fastest microsd is sooooooooo slow thru my phone. Sharing movies via micro sd…. Bet my frds gonna complain

          Sleep and forget? Why not just get a tiny 64gb usb stick. Take it with you and forget.

          6 movies for 60gb. My s2 struggles to play 4gb movies.. Voice out of sync… It's a 720p display I think… Why put something bigger.

          I reckon the worst thing about this nexus 7 is…. No video out!!! I bought 3 nexus 7 (frd, & gf, and myself).. Found out after purchase.. Very disappointed!!!!

        • Zed on 06/07/2012 - 19:51

          I just read that nexus 7 can be rooted, and as well, a program called stickmount in google play will enable usb flash stick loading.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 19:53
          +2

          Current Tegra 2 tablets can handle them so I don't see why Nexus 7 cannot.

          Can you name me a tablet that can power a hard drive via USB OTG? I'm not talking about a large tablet with a full-sized USB port, I'm talking about a small tablet that uses an OTG cable, because that's what the Nexus 7 is.

          Also, do you realize that spinning hard drives are a large battery killer?

          Are you seriously claiming that connecting a bulky external hard drive that drastically shortens your battery life is a good alternative to having a micro SD slot?

          I just don't see the point copying movie files at 10MB/sec.

          When I copy large files, I don't sit down and stare at the progress bar, so I'm OK with 10MB/s. It's a tiny sacrifice for not needing to use my tablet with an obstrusive dongle hanging off it.

          microSD is least of Nexus 7's problem. In order of issues: USB OTG, HDMI… then microSD.

          How is USB OTG more convenient than microSD? It's more flexible, but it's also more of a hassle if your aim is to watch videos on your tablet as you'll have a usb stick hanging off an OTG cable dangling from your tablet.

          Nexus series devices never had microSD

          The Nexus One did.

          If USB OTG is done properly on Nexus 7 (which will run Jellybean),

          If? The Nexus 7 does not support mounting volumes over OTG, as described in the link I pasted above. I suppose if you root your device and install some hacks it will, but out of the box, it does not work.

          Besides, if you really like to show movies to your mates, pretty sure USB OTG with a portable hard drive is a better approach.

          As I said before, it is not likely that a portable hard drive can be powered by the N7. This is irrelevant anyway, as the N7 does not support mounting volumes over USB OTG.

          If it were on a microSD card, i can pop it out of a tablet and pop it into the tiny USB reader I have that fits in my wallet. It'll then work anywhere with USB MSC. No need to carry a bulky fragile hard drive.

          I would rather lobby Google to allow USB OTG properly than ask them for microSD slot with a crippled USB OTG.

          In a perfect world it would have both microSD and USB OTG. In a less perfect world, it would have microSD and no OTG, as everybody knows how to use microSD. One step below that would be OTG and no microUSB. Unfortunately we're one step below even that at the moment.

          I think Google purposely limited the functionality of the device so their partners can compete. If they added all the bells and whistles to the $199 Nexus 7 and sold it at cost price, no other manufacturer would be able to compete. Google would be competing with its own partners, pissing them off.

          syl:

          Sleep and forget? Why not just get a tiny 64gb usb stick. Take it with you and forget.

          Because I can do the same with a tiny 64GB microSD card, with the benefit of having it inserted into my tablet at all times. It's the best of both worlds as the microSD card can be turned into a tiny USB stick - smaller than the smallest USB sticks available - but not vice versa.

          As I've mentioned many times before, different people have different needs. Your needs in particular are in the minority. Just because you use USB OTG doesn't mean everyone else cares about it. I'm very certain the general non-techy public would get more use out of microSD than OTG.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 19:54

          I just read that nexus 7 can be rooted, and as well, a program called stickmount in google play will enable usb flash stick loading.

          Yup that was in the link pasted above. Good for techy users, but it won't help the general public.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 20:35

          The following review said a cheap Chinese tablet can do USB OTG with a hard drive.
          http://www.verygoodreview.com/android-tablet/ramos-w6hd-revi…

          If I want to bring movies to my friend's place, I would bring a portable hard drive.

          If you absolutely must, then get a pocket wifi (since pretty much all of them has a microSD slot). I don't see any point copying movies at 10MB/sec (personally, even USB 2 is too slow, I normally use either eSATA or USB3).

          The main thing for this tablet is ability to playback 720p or 1080p movies. You won't be able to fit too many of those on a SD card. Some of my blu-ray rips are 30GB each (ripped from my original blu-rays).

          You mentioned a miniSD card is enough to hold your "whole collection". Then, why do you need to wait overnight to copy them?

          When I want to show my friend my collection (or vice versa), it is always portable hard drives. Just plug it to TV or blu-ray drives (or media player or media centre). 1080p. This - use my tablet to show my movie collection is flawed.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 20:52

          Notice how you only talk about you? Everything is you, you, you. The Nexus 7 is not for people like you. It's for the general public. You should buy something else.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 20:55

          Very early on, I already mentioned, if you MUST, get a pocket wifi. That's $40-$50 when they are on discount.

          And, once USB OTG issue is sorted, get a thumbsize microUSB reader if you must. That's $1-$2.

          I am trying to tell people that lacking microSD on this device is not a HUGE deal. Think about it, iPads don't have it. People still buy them. If microSD is so important, Android tablets would have completely taken over the tablet market.

          The true power of this device is 1080p high profile mkv streaming (wirelessly). For that, you can stream a HUGE file and ALL movies on your collection. No copying needed. It is more impressive to stream your friend's 1080p mkv that's 8GB or 30GB (if it is a true rip) than show him some movie files that's 500MB-1GB each.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 20:59

          Very early on, I already mentioned, if you MUST, get a pocket wifi. That's $40-$50 when they are on discount.

          You are not supposed to use any transmitting devices on a plane - that includes a pocketwifi. That's a poor workaround anyway - you shouldn't have to recharge your storage device!

          And, once USB OTG issue is sorted, get a thumbsize microUSB reader if you must. That's $1-$2.

          USB OTG will only be solved by rooting. That's not what the general public wants to do. It's fine for techy people, but that's not the point.

          I am trying to tell people that lacking microSD on this device is not a HUGE deal.about it, iPads don't have it. People still buy them.

          Can you buy a 64GB Nexus 7? You can buy a 64GB iPad.

          Apple also sells an image and status. It doesn't matter how crippled it is, some people will still buy it for the image.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 21:04

          If you must have a microSD slot and you don't want to root the device, then don't get this tablet. It is as simple as that.

          How often do you travel? Every week? If yes, why bother with this? You definetely can afford a 7 inch tablet that has a microSD card slot.

          All I am trying to say is, microSD shouldn't be an issue for most people (if you really think about it). If it is a huge deal breaker for you, then easy, don't get it. We also don't know whether Google will just patch the OTG issue or someone will release a program where you just double click and it unlocks or enable the OTG.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 21:13
          +1

          If you must have a microSD slot and you don't want to root the device, then don't get this tablet. It is as simple as that.

          Exactly - this device is not for everyone.

          All I am trying to say is, microSD shouldn't be an issue for most people (if you really think about it).

          Er, this entire conversation started specifically referring to people who want to store lots of movies on their tablet. Now you're trying to steer it to suit your reasons. Jumping in the middle of a conversation without reading the whole thread then trying to steer it to suit your reasons doesn't really help anyone.

          For people who don't want to store lots of media on their tablets, this is a great device. But that's not what the whole conversation was about!

          And to continue on your point, if you think no microSD shouldn't be an issue for most people, no OTG would be an even smaller issue for most people. iPads don't have OTG the same way as Android. People still buy them. ;)

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 21:18

          Store a lot of movies in the tablet.. That's what I found odd. My mates always bring a portable hard drive when he wants to show me his collection. Never had a mate who bring a 32GB microSD card to show me his collection.

          If you REALLY want to watch movies on a plane, get the new iPad.

          I don't travel that often.. and if I cannot watch movies on a plane, I am not going to be terrible upset about it. Obviously, it is very important for most people. If so, then this tablet must be doomed. Interestingly, Amazon Kindle Fire sold quite well.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 21:20

          …or a cheap tablet with a microSD slot. ;)

          The Tab 7.7 with 2 genuine cases and dock at $359 delivered is a pretty good deal for those who want a smaller tablet with micro SD.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 21:22

          Mate, do you see me positive vote this deal? No right?

          I am basically saying even without microSD slot, I will not positive vote this. However, at the same time, I am indicating lack of microSD slot is not a big deal.

          Tab 7.7 at that price is not cheap by the way (the dock the deal does not have HDMI port, otherwise the deal will get a + from me).

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 21:32

          Once again, this is going off-tangent. Have a nice OZB weekend!

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 21:32

          My main issue with Nexus 7 is actually price. We are paying too much for this. $199 for a tablet that can wirelessly stream 1080p mkv, IPS screen, quad core CPU, even with just 8GB storage would get a + from me.

          Galaxy Tab 7.7. The eBay resell value for a second hand one (if you throw in a case) would be around $299/$300. You might think that's not too bad, but Galaxy Tab (gen 1) can fetch around $270-$290 easily. It is odd, but I guess people do value having 3G capability in a tablet.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 21:44

          Price is very subjective. Some people will find $297 a fair price, others won't. What alternatives are there at $297?

          http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/06/ask-lh-why-does-the-nex…

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 22:50

          You win / I give up / I surrender. MicroSD slot is very important for most people (or basically everyone in the world except me). We pay 20% more is not too expensive for most people (again everyone in the world except me). I have a very biased view. Have a good weekend.

        • atlas on 07/07/2012 - 23:10

          netsurfer - I agree I would not use my tablet to 'show off my movie collection to my friend'. That would just be ridiculous. We also never claimed that we would use a micro SD for that purpose so you seem to be arguing with yourself.

          The micro SD is purely to allow the user to WATCH content on the go, be it on the train or in the air. I would not put my entire collection on there - I just put what I want to watch.

          Yes I could use USB OTG to power a flash drive but that is unnecessary clutter. You definitely cannot power a hard drive from a normal tablet.

        • netsurfer on 08/07/2012 - 18:30

          You can use USB OTG to power a fingernail size microSD reader (http://cdn.slashphone.com/sp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/lexa…). That won't be unnecessary clutter. Your definition of "normal" tablet is a 7 inch tablet (now, that is bending the truth a bit don't you think).

          If you got your Galaxy Tab 7.7 for $340 (or $359 with the cases and dock) or less than $300 (because you have 20% cards or you are a GG VIP), you don't need to bash N7 to make GT 7.7 looks good. Besides, it is because of N7, GT 7.7 is now priced more reasonably. Just be happy, it is a good tablet.

          For non-tech people, I found they will not bother with copying movies to microSD and watch movies that way. To them, they prefer an interface (e.g. an app) where you type in the movie (or go through well defined menu system to locate the movie), and it will then show you the movie. For my parents, that's the only way that's acceptable to them. Even wifi streaming the collection on the NAS would be a bit difficult for them (and that's just click on folders, scroll and find the one they want).

          If you are a tech person (or have good understanding of how IT devices work), surely you can figure out ways around the microSD issue. Also, with technology, it is important to be open minded. Another alternative solution: if you have an Android phone or iPhone with you, you can use bluetooth to share files if you have to. If you then want to complain about battery life or electricity, leaving the computer overnight to copy files at 10MB/sec isn't exactly saving electricity.

          Think positive. There are other ways, you can figure them out.

        • netsurfer on 08/07/2012 - 22:06
          -1

          Copying movie files to microSD overnight (because it is slow) so you can watch it on your tablet next morning is a workaround, not a cool feature. It exposes one of the weaknesses of tablets.

          Apple, Amazon, Google all try to sell you cloud based contents (we don't get unlimited wireless data plan here, unlike in the US and Asia). This is a tablet designed for the US. US people also get pretty good deal from Netflix. Some of my mates use US VPN and have a Netflix account and these people are IT people (doubt anyone of them would bother copying movies to microSD). Lots of non-IT people here have been watching contents via streaming from Internet direct to a tablet or PC for at least a couple years here.

          No point showing off a painful workaround here. Tell people something that's really cool that you can do with your amazing microSD slot to impress us.

        • eug on 08/07/2012 - 22:12
          -1

          You can use USB OTG to power a fingernail size microSD reader

          So plugging a microsd card into a USB reader into an OTG cable into the tablet is easier than plugging the microsd card directly into the tablet?

          Is it that hard to admit that having a microSD slot is more convenient for everyone than a long-winded OTG solution?

        • netsurfer on 08/07/2012 - 22:27

          eject the card (using fingernail), put it in a card reader (or in a microSD to SD converter than to the reader), copy files, wait hours, take it out of the card reader, take it out of the converter, open the microSD card slot, insert it….

          vs.. just unplug it with the card reader attached, put it in the PC, copy files, then connect it back.

          I think the problem is the copying time more than anything else.

          Can we talk about features a high end tablet is meant to do, rather than a feature that (1) a $95 tablet with Mali400 GPU can do easily (1080p mkv playback) and (2) a rather painful way to watch a movie? I've also provided bluetooth workaround AND I also explained why there is no point keep talking about a solution that exposes weaknesses of tablets in general.

          I told you that US people can watch Netflix on the go, just because we cannot (because it costs too much) doesn't mean that's not a good/nice feature. It's what our tablets meant to do. A lot of non-tech people would only watch contents wirelessly (even here).

        • atlas on 08/07/2012 - 22:58

          Netsurfer - I really think that you just like arguing for the sake of arguing.

          Hopefully a mod just puts this thread out of its misery.

          Anyways I shall continue to entertain you and offer the following:

          1. Attaching a micro-SD card via a card reader via a USB-OTG cable does not solve your 'problem' of waiting for hours for slow file transfers. You still need to copy the files to the micro-SD, which in actual fact is not too bad if you have a class 10 card which guarantees a minimum 10mb/s write speed. This is often faster than any cheap and nasty USB flash drive that you buy from HN/BigW.

          2. Wireless streaming is great if you (1) have a unlimited mobile data plan and (2) have excellent continuous network performance. Unfortunately we have neither in Australia.

          3. I don't see why you keep touting complicated workarounds like 'bluetooth' when clearly there is a proper solution available.

          4. This argument is pointless for people not intending to watch movies/tv shows on their tablets. We only ever persisted with this notion for those WANTING to watch things on their tablets.

          5. It's funny that you refer to features of a high end tablet when clearly the Nexus 7 is not aimed at that market. Given its functionality I can only see its main 'features' being portable web browsing and gaming. I daresay it won't be used for much more.

        • netsurfer on 08/07/2012 - 23:20

          My point is, watching movies from microSD is old school. It is a desparate thing to
          do. This behaviour is backward, rather than forward use of technology. You wouldn't do this if you want to watch a movie on your laptop or TV, would you?

          If people really want to do it, I will try to offer solutions. However, it is not something I would recommend. The card reader from Lexar for the card is good, not some cheap and nasty card reader (and you get it when you buy their class 10 microSD). But 10MB/sec.. gosh.. that's so slow.

          I don't use microSD on my GT 7.7 or A500 or the new iPad (no microSD). I probably will get N7 when it is available at retail stores. Like I mentioned way back, wireless stream 720p/1080p mkvs from my NAS or watch movies/TV shows directly from Internet is what I use my tablet for in terms of watching videos (though I do other stuff more - not really a movie person). I am the type of person where all my portable hard drives must either have USB 3 or eSATA so you know copying movies to microSD is surely a no-no for me.

        • syl on 10/07/2012 - 16:47

          Saying micro sd card is convenient and all but in your other reply you said you could use ntfs App or some shit and run a usb to show your friends 1080p movies. Mate, what do you actually use this for? Seems you're using your tablet just to show movies to your friend.
          Ppl nowadays don't talk to frds…. They show movies… Fk… I'm getting old

        • eug on 10/07/2012 - 17:21

          You must be new to internet discussions. It's called "giving examples". Stop trying to bend things to only suit your way of thinking - you need to realize that different people use their tabs differently to you. You might not find a micro SD slot useful - that's fine. You might not see the need to store lots of videos on your tab - that's fine. But other people do. It's not all about you.

          A microSD slot allows you to store a lot of media on a microSD card in your tablet.

          That means you can have multiple seasons or a whole bunch of movies with you, wherever you go. You can watch it on a 14-hour plane trip, while waiting in transit, while going to work on public transport, or if you happen to be at a friend's place and everyone wants to watch something, you might have a suitable video right on your tab or micro SD card. You can then either plug in your tab to their TV with a hdmi cable, or plug the microSD card into their TV with a tiny card reader. Surely you don't carry an expensive, fragile portable hard drive everywhere you go.

          If you decide that you don't really need a big screen on the bus, just pop out the microSD card and pop it into your phone. You now instantly have all those videos, or 60 gigs worth of music, all on your phone.

          Those are called examples. They describe some scenarios where a microSD slot can be useful.

          Therefore, having a micro SD slot is a benefit. YOU might not find it useful, but many other people will. Remember, other people exist too, and they don't all think the way you do.

          Ppl nowadays don't talk to frds…. They show movies… Fk… I'm getting old

          Surely you know of the existence of video and DVD rental stores. They've been around for decades. What do you think people use them for?

        • Marrk on 10/07/2012 - 19:11

          6 movies taking up 40 - 50GB? There is no point in putting such large video files on your tablet, especially if it has a 7.7" screen. All of my movies are around 700MB to 1GB each (90 minutes - 2 hours), and the picture quality is pretty decent. You could probably get around 15 movies on the 16GB Nexus 7, if you pushed it.

  • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2012 - 11:08
    +1

    One thing people need to be aware of is that this tablet actually runs jb in phone mode according to xda.

    • gbnz on 06/07/2012 - 11:13

      Id take a lot of stuff mentioned on XDA on stuff not released with a grain of salt.

      Heck most stuff on there that isnt written by one of the more repuatable people or sticky owners isnt worth reading.

      • Marrk on 10/07/2012 - 21:40

        I have seen a couple of video reviews of the device (from TechnoBuffalo and PhoneDog on YouTube), and this appears to be the case. You cannot view the homescreen in landscape mode, you can only view it in portrait mode, which I find a little annoying.

    • superforever on 06/07/2012 - 11:14

      Is it JB is designed for both phone and tablet. It will look exactly the same just like using a big phone.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2012 - 11:18
        +1

        Perhaps, comments mentioned that the UI on a video was phone, not tablet. I've not looked into jb much but maybe they've finally integrated them both into one? Or maybe very similar now.

        • sane on 06/07/2012 - 11:29

          The one thing that is bad - the launcher won't rotate to landscape mode it seems. This is daft, but widely reported.

          Hopefully it will be fixed, I use by tablet in landscape all the time.

        • ragflan on 06/07/2012 - 11:32

          Jellybean scales to the size of the display. More info here: http://blogs.computerworld.com/mobile-and-wireless/20653/and…

          The launcher maybe portrait only but that's easily fixed by using Nova or Apex - definitely not a deal breaker. The tablet UI comes into play when you use Gmail, YouTube or any of the apps that do have a tablet specific UI. I need to find the source where Matias Duarte is explaining Jellybean and Android UI.

        • rasun81 on 06/07/2012 - 11:33
          +1

          that was fixed by XDA - refer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749501

          Single OS for tablet and phone from ICS onwards - smart applications can detect and utilize tablet mode (facebook/gmail is very good example)

        • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2012 - 13:42

          But my ICS on my Xoom and my SGS2 are different. Notifications for instance show up on top on phone and drag down where as Xoom is more akin to Windows toolbar (bottom right and open as a small pop up)

    • Shwayne on 06/07/2012 - 11:37

      You can modify the density in build.prop to convert it to a fully fledged tablet.

  • tsunamisurfer on 06/07/2012 - 11:27
    +2

    Good deal…especially when it includes an upgrade of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley over Megan Fox.

  • n00bi3z on 06/07/2012 - 11:33

    So very tempted….but already have a Nook Color =[

  • sydney98 on 06/07/2012 - 11:38
    +4

    Let Google rock the tablet market :). Then Apple and other price will come down …

    • Kelalako on 06/07/2012 - 11:47

      so that we can finally buy apple products and begin to be one of those people who brag about it.

      • scrimshaw on 06/07/2012 - 11:49
        +5

        Apple will never lower their price. Once they do, it's very difficult to bring it up again without pissing off their customer base.

        • StewBalls on 06/07/2012 - 11:56
          +7

          They really don't need to lower their prices either, Apple have successfully built up a very gullible customer base that are happy to pay top dollar to buy into the lifestyle hype.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 12:06

          Apple will never lower their price? They just dropped the entry price of an iPad by $100 to US$399 a few months ago. They could have stopped selling the iPad 2 but instead, presumably faced with competition by cheaper Android tablets, they decided to keep selling it at a lower price.

          They obviously don't want a repeat of what happened in the smartphone world, where they completely lost their market dominance to Android.

        • gilbarc on 06/07/2012 - 12:20
          +1

          They obviously don't want a repeat of what happened in the smartphone world, where they completely lost their market dominance to Android.

          Actually, iOS never had market dominance in the smartphone world. Back when Android overtook iOS, they were in 3rd and 4th place respectively (behind Symbian and Blackberry).

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 12:22
          +1

          Symbian and Blackberry? We're talking about smartphones here. ;)

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 12:26
          +4

          Apple don't want to win a price war. A price reduction will generally be bad for Apple from marketing point of view. If people know a product will not drop in prices for a year or so, then they won't be waiting for discounts before buy it.

          Apple is very good at marketing. Even when they have a mini fire sale for previous gen devices (when the new gen devices come out), they limit the quantity.

          If anything, Apple will launch a new product to compete, rather than lowering current iPad prices.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 12:33

          er, you do realize that when Apple launched the new iPad, they lowered the price of the current iPad and continued selling it?

          …just like the iPhone 3GS.

          They have to fight with price as well, now that consumers are getting smarter.

        • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 14:51
          +3

          There are two reasons for Apple to do that:

          1. To let iPad 2 owners feel that their devices only dropped $100. And, more importantly, their devices (smart phones/tablets) are valid in the market for 2 years.
          2. Clear some excess stock AND try out a new CPU manufacturing process (aimed at reducing cost and for their next gen CPUs).

          Good marketing.. if you ask me.

          In tablet land, Apple don't need to fight the price war yet. Pretty much most reviewers, if not all, agree that Nexus 7 is to compete with Amazon Kindle Fire.

          I hope Nexus 7 will make a difference. At least in the US, there is now a $199 USD mainstream Android tablet which can do 1080p high profile mkv streaming with ease. You can already do this with cheap Chinese tablets, but the build quality for those do vary. You can do the same with Galaxy Tab 7.7. Once you tried wireless 1080p mkv streaming on the tablet, you will really like it (and I doubt you will bother with 16/32GB microSD anymore).

          With the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 price drop, and Nexus 7 not priced competitively enough in AUS, it makes it hard for us to pull the trigger and buy one of these.

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 14:55

          To let ipad 2 owners feel like their devices only dropped $100? That's stretching the imagination a bit. :)

          Clear excess stock? They're still manufacturing the ipad 2. It's just $100 cheaper now.

          Look at the recent macbook launch. They've dropped the price on those as well. There's no ignoring the fact that Apple is competing on price as well now - ultrabooks are an atractive alternative to MBAs. There is no reason for them to drop the price on their gear if they weren't afraid of slowing down their growth.

        • StewBalls on 06/07/2012 - 15:00

          To let ipad 2 owners feel like their devices only dropped $100? That's stretching the imagination a bit.

          I honestly don't think that's drawing a long bow eug. It's a brilliant marketing strategy, what other customer base would be happy to pay 80% of the previous RRP for outdated technology? Apple are just strategically leveraging this phenomenon!

          To answer your following question, new model was coming out so something had to give…just dropping the price by the $100 (~20%) is a nifty way to satisfy all parties but not shift the profitability of the incumbent device by a huge margin; whilst also allowing recent purchasers to feel that their device will retain decent resale value! :)

          It's diabolically clever on a number of levels, including making ongoing use of established manufacturing facilities & processes…since tooling up & streamlining these (along with the associated logistics) is a significant expense to most manufacturers, they've already put in the hard yards so now they can cruise on an easy iPad2 income stream. I take my hat off to them, seriously!

        • eug on 06/07/2012 - 15:03

          The statement reads "Apple dropped the price so people who already own iPads will feel like their iPads only dropped in price by $100". How would that help Apple? Or is the statement being interpreted differently?

          People who foolishly bought their ipads a week before the launch would have been hit by instant depreciation.

        • lostn on 06/07/2012 - 15:37

          Good marketing.. if you ask me.

          In tablet land, Apple don't need to fight the price war yet. Pretty much most reviewers, if not all, agree that Nexus 7 is to compete with Amazon Kindle Fire.

          From a marketing perspective it's always better to sell fewer units at higher margin than more units at lower margin. Apple never loses. That's why they are the biggest company in the world by a head and shoulders margin. They sell stuff at massive margins even if it's an inferior product and people will still be willing to buy/upgrade every year or two years.

        • billybrown on 06/07/2012 - 15:52

          yep, one of the few companies that sell more at a higher margin

        • SydStrand on 06/07/2012 - 16:28

          "From a marketing perspective it's always better to sell fewer units at higher margin than more units at lower margin"

          Apple has both covered. Their hardware makes them a massive profit with the 30c to every dollar app download trickling in the rest.

    • phluffed on 06/07/2012 - 11:53
      +1

      That wont happen. Market share has never really effected Apple prices in the past. Right or wrong, they pick their ground and stick to it. With their product you aren't buying the hardware, you're buying the brand.

      Back on topic… tempted to fit this tab in somewhere.. the MyTab is fixed to the toilet wall, the Xoom is in the lounge and the iPad 2 is in the bedroom… maybe this can be the kitchen device!

      • d3ft on 06/07/2012 - 12:37
        +1

        Toilet tab - brilliant!

        • StewBalls on 06/07/2012 - 14:20
          +4

          You might be better off looking for a bargain on Metamucil dude! ;)

      • sane on 06/07/2012 - 16:03

        Put the MyTab in the car, where the 3G, GPS and Bluetooth mean it can talk via Bluetooth to OBDII, can run Sat Nav, and can at as a phone.

        Put the Nexus in the lounge, where the media can be streamed and the CPU/GPU horse power can play games.

        Put the Xoom in the bedroom, where the camera and lack of prudish apple controls can come into their own.

        Put the ipad2 in the bathroom, for those times when the paper runs out.

  • Feepitee on 06/07/2012 - 11:47
    +2

    I'd wait till the item is available, so then you can use the coupon code EDGE for free shipping.

  • superforever on 06/07/2012 - 12:05

    $319 from Harvey Norman they have to do better.

    http://www.harveynorman.com.au/asus-nexus-7-tablet.html

    • Rumbaar on 06/07/2012 - 13:22
      +2

      ..and doesn't make mention of Transformers or $25 Play Store credit. More fail from Harvey Norman.

  • lazybones1987 on 06/07/2012 - 12:36

    Point to consider, Nexus 7 won't launch with Google Music, magazines or TV shows in Australia. Don't know if it ever will be released.

    • Rumbaar on 06/07/2012 - 13:23

      Yeah, that was one of the reasons I finally chose not to pre-order. Then there is the image 'burn-in' the IPS screen seems to be having.

      • dy4me on 06/07/2012 - 13:26
        +1

        only on pre-production models. aka google-io modesl. that too only some of em

    • SydStrand on 06/07/2012 - 16:29

      Google Music is very easily circumvented. The app API can be found anywhere and once you set it up with VPN to upload your library, it functions exactly the same as the American version. Of course, our cellular is slower so I wouldn't recommend streaming on-the-go unless you have a very healthy LTE plan.

      • eug on 06/07/2012 - 16:33

        You don't even need a VPN to upload. After using a VPN to set up the account, I just installed the music manager on my VPN-less desktop and uploaded direct.

  • bbyboy on 06/07/2012 - 12:40

    Anyone know if I can cancel my order with google?

    • ragflan on 06/07/2012 - 12:44

      You should be able to. Go to the Google Wallet page and see if the order can be cancelled. Since it's a pre-order, you should be able to cancel it as the item hasn't shipped yet. I remember being able to cancel a Handtec order (that I paid through Google Checkout) around 3 days after I placed it (was also a pre-order item).

      • bbyboy on 06/07/2012 - 12:57

        thanks. there wasnt really a cancel button. it was an option in the contact google link.
        do you know how long it would take to cancel my order? i want it cancelled asap so i can get this :)

    • roadeh on 06/07/2012 - 13:26

      I just phoned up and they basically said they can cancel if you have ordered within the last few days, but it will take a few days to process.

      Thanks OP anyway, saved me the best part of $25 :)

    • irajohn90 on 06/07/2012 - 13:27

      yes u can cancel. you have to call google to do it though. the number is on your invoice/receipt. there is no-restocking fee charged to australian customers. so you get a full refund.

      • bbyboy on 06/07/2012 - 14:25
        +1

        i just called the number on the receipt and they said they cant cancel my order because it has already been shipped

  • Third_Gear on 06/07/2012 - 13:52

    Am waiting for a 10". I read quite a few comics and not sure the 7" will be big enough.

  • coolg on 06/07/2012 - 13:53

    For anyone who is interested to know how to cancel.

    I sent a request online, but as an insurance, I called the number on the Google Play receipt and spoke to a guy from US. He actioned the request (i.e. send it to the billing department) and the order was cancelled within 15 minutes later when I actually receive an email from Google Play stating the order has been cancelled.

  • tc4101 on 06/07/2012 - 13:56

    wonder if they're getting the white version in. or was that only for io?

    • dy4me on 06/07/2012 - 14:00

      io only

  • MadTacoWarrior on 06/07/2012 - 14:00
    +1

    Damn. Is this why my EB Games gift card sold so fast?

  • StewBalls on 06/07/2012 - 14:15
    +11

    Can you pay a little more & get it without Transformers 3? :p

  • aedeau on 06/07/2012 - 14:36
    +2

    just sent a request to goolge to cancel my order. I was hoping they'd invoice me for last finance year , but they haven't, so I guess I just wait till they're on sale at xmas

    re $25 voucher, I'd rather they take $25 off the price of the tablet instead :)

  • krps13 on 06/07/2012 - 15:12

    Just per-order it at the store today! Cant wait :)

  • SydStrand on 06/07/2012 - 16:31

    I'll wait a see. I already have a GT7.7 which I think has better hardware, but it only now got ICS. I'll see what xda can do with getting a JB rom on the thing.

    • ragflan on 06/07/2012 - 20:46

      Do you have the 7.7 3G? I have the WiFi model and have not received ICS yet. Not much community development going on for this tablet either.

  • alexmc on 06/07/2012 - 18:07

    So for the sake of saving $20 I can wait until the end of the month OR I keep my pre-order with Google and get it mid-month… think I am happy to pay the extra $20 and get it early :)

    • netsurfer on 06/07/2012 - 21:51

      Yeah.. why not.. just keep checking OZB for future bargains and you will be able to save $20 from future bargains.

    • bbyboy on 07/07/2012 - 03:55
      +1

      i want to cancel my order not to save $20 but rather have the ease of bringing it back to ebgames for warranty

      • netsurfer on 07/07/2012 - 10:41

        Hm… good point. Buying it from a local retailer does have an advantage.
        My past dealing with Google (on a purchase done on Google Market - it was calle that at the time) was quite average (they were quite quick to respond, but the issue wasn't sorted).

  • Shadowsfury on 06/07/2012 - 18:39

    Someone above said google had already shipped theirs so can't cancel the preorder. Wonder tlwhen they'll get it.

  • tyler.durden on 06/07/2012 - 19:38

    is 7" large enough?

    • blackrider89 on 07/07/2012 - 12:56
      +1

      Always…

      • dy4me on 07/07/2012 - 15:05

        Thats not what she said. :p

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