I think that is a very reasonable fare in today’s market especially during school holidays and on a full service airlines that are known for their great safety record (well for the past 10 years…)
10kg checked-in luggage included and can be combined with other traveller on the same booking.
It's ok, it's a Shémalé
Not enough Arrested Development fans
You've made a huge mistake.
Fml that was 10 years ago :O
10kg checked-in luggage included
WT ???
How many kg for a different pattern?
Malaysia Airlines have banned plaid.
well plaid!
They're not letting Argylle through without an Apple TV Plus subscription. Active trial works.
Accidents happen in three's…
On overwhelming evidence of piloted flight and planned evasive actions, I don't think you can call MH370 an "accident"…
and given it was shot down, I don't think you can call MH17 an accident either, although technically they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, so maybe in that respect, (and with the benefit of hindsight, it was not a good idea to fly over a conflict zone, but that was a planned route not accidental deviation)…
But to ease everyone's superstitions, perhaps we should count flight 653 which was hijacked and crashed in 1977 and say that Malaysia Airlines has had its 3 nefarious incidents.
That was a long time ago. All the pilot stuff has been exposed as a scape goat back story. The latest is around secretive cargo onboard that someone didn't want to arrive at it's destination.
Either way, I wasn't there, and no fault of Malaysian airlines.
yeah, no. That's a bat shit crazy conspiracy theory dude.
It's a natural phenomenon to fill in the blanks of the unknown with all sorts of interesting stories. I'm sure if the plane actually landed in Diego Garcia (yes I know the theory you are referring to), someone would have seen something. If the CIA or whoever actually wanted that cargo (not to arrive in China / get to Iran, whatever the B.S. story was again), they'd just do what they always do and bribe the sh!t out of someone to get it. Don't get me wrong, I am quite aware the CIA do a lot of questionable sh!t in the world, but they don't need to drone control a plane full of innocents to a military base where hundreds of real people actually work who would see something, who would whistleblow, then dispose of them just to get a pallet of tech - total "too much movie watching for you" nonsense. That would be way too ridiculously public for a 'covert' operation - think about it. Plus with adversaries like China monitoring such activities of US/UK military in the Indian Ocean, they'd know if that was true and have no reason to be silent about it and fund huge searches for the plane in cooperation with Malaysia and Australia etc based on tracking data from satellite handshakes.
Whereas it's kind of sad that the truth of the matter can be as simple as suicidal psychological depression of the pilot, so we try to look for other reasoning, because there is none that makes sense to a sane person.
So, arguably the whole industry including Malaysia Airlines has some fault in that they have created a culture of if you seek mental health help, you can't ever return to the cockpit. So the Pilots don't seek help and get sicker, and sicker.
Mentour Pilot has created some informative and factual videos about it. They need to be able to seek help and know it isn't necessarily a career ending move before it spirals out of control.
They can also put 3 pilots on large flights and ensure there are always at least two pilots in the cockpit at any one time, and most of the time 3 (e.g. with a leading assumption being the Captain locked the first officer out when he went to the bathroom or similar). Difficult extra resource, but probably necessary after the GermanWings 9525 murder suicide as well. It worked in the case of Emerson in Alaska Air 2059, the two pilots were able to overpower the third that was tripping out on mushrooms and trying to crash it (eek!).
Back to MH370, Investigators from many countries actually cooperated, natural foes, and know quite a lot about what happened - and the actual "latest" is researchers have now looked at interference with recorded WSPR radio signals and have even triangulated its approximate resting place recently and can tell it circles around before crashing, suggesting it was still piloted. How accurate that is will only be proven if they find it, but many actual pieces of cargo, interior, and exterior of the plane has washed up and drift analysis agrees with their identified location, as does the 7 satellite 'arcs' that guided the first search, and less than 100km outside the previous search area. Also noting the transponder was powered back on near the end, likely because the power was turned back on to glide the plane once the engines ran out of fuel, but someone had manually cleared all the identifying data in person in the plane before it connected so it didn't broadcast its location / ID etc… sounds a lot like an experienced pilot to me… so yeah, I'm quite up to date with "the latest" as you call it - but believe what you want.
@MrFrugalSpend: Whoa!! All we have is crazy theories until it becomes science fact.
I was referring to the plane carrying a new Soviet/ China tech, and they chose to move it with the cover of innocent civilians. Sounds logical to me.
The US would down that with zero F's. Just look at their documented track record in just the last 4 months. They have bombed 1000's of civilians 'under the premise that it is 'revenge on terrorists".
I don't for 2 seconds believe that none of the world superpowers couldn't track this aircraft. What a load of shite.
If a dolphin farts in the Indian ocean, it's known. Every single piece of space junk circling our atmosphere (all traveling in random directions) is tracked to the metre.
Someone knows exactly where it went down…the question is why hasn't it become public…
@tunzafun001: Yes that is the same theory I was referring to - one branch of that theory is they stole the tech and flew it to Diego Garcia (not really plausible without people seeing it) as that could maybe make a slight twisted bit of sense if they needed to steal the tech to copy or something (but still not how they would go about it really). What really doesn't make sense is just crashing it in the ocean. Doesn't make sense at all - think about it - all that "Soviet" tech coming out of Kuala Lumpur on a Malaysian Passenger plane (?That makes no sense?) that what? - they have absolutely backup of, or research data, so it is totally unique and therefore everything is riding on this one standard passenger plane to a foreign country, making a critical target worth taking it out and everyone on it, (also risking further dampening the reputation and income of one of the US's most important Prime contractors in its military-industrial complex by targeting a 777), and risking an international incident, but necessary because that unique piece of cargo has such massive strategic importance that it warrants one of the most bizzare one off ways of disposing of it, that gets international media attention for 10 years and the attention of the world, like all good covert missions!?? That makes so much sense - lol, not (sarcasm)!
I don't disagree with their capabilities, and are quite sure some of these organisations have little moral compass when they need to harm civilians to get their way if the risk/reward is high enough - but it is difficult to see a likely/plausible explanation why they would gain enough from this to risk undertaking a mission in such a way, and risk it later being proven when it is found. And no one's going to put every piece of that valuable tech, all research, all the people involved, and the tech itself on one public passenger plane to transport it to a foreign country if it is so critically valuable it is a threat to the United States…that would be a total B.S. movie plot hole.
As for your other statement, there is quite a lot of scientifically investigated fact involved actually.
As for the dolphin farts - there is not a lot of things monitoring that remote part of the Indian Ocean, but yes there is ability to detect things if you are looking for them with access to the right equipment, but no one was initially aware what had happened on the day, or that the Indian Ocean was even involved until some time later - so whilst military radar in some parts of the route could have and probably did detect a passenger plane, it was not heading straight for them in wartime as a threat they therefore had to track or something - and the Ocean is massive and in comparison the plane is small. So it is not like all that data about the whole world is being necessarily being recorded and saved to be played back - that would be way too much data. Even if some militaries do save things, they aren't going to make that available for analysis so everyone can work out where the black spots are! There's not a lot of that sort of broad monitoring capability data that would be saved long term - However, as I stated, Weak Signal Propagation (WSPR) global radio data is saved in a database, and with new research analysing that data, they believe they do know where it went down, but only after a lot of analysis (and there are criticisms over accuracy), and it is expensive to pinpoint the needle in the haystack via reopening a physical search.
I like to read up on these reports, rather than just put on an armadillo helmet, hiding in a bunker, and go with whichever sensationalist theory sounds the most dramatic and confirms preconceptions about the evil people that run world governments - and clinical depression murder suicide seems the most plausible given all the scientific evidence, investigation and research. We don't know for absolute certain, but they are just being polite keeping the options open given it is quite an allegation to throw at someone's memory / family if they can't prove it beyond all doubt yet, if ever. So sure, all options are technically on the table… but if we're going to focus on one, let's be realistic about which ones are most likely.
@MrFrugalSpend: Just working on what I do know.
Yes KL is a tech hub, especially AI. But I don't think it was Soviet tech per se, more like the techs themselves onboard or similar.. Similar to the way NASA came about..The US would never be going to the moon if they didn't covertly take the tech from the Nazi's (Operation Paperclip etc). So sensationalism does have roots in reality.
A second Malaysian airlines plane was shot out the skies only 2 months later. Way too close together in time for a coincidence, and you don't accidentally mix up a passenger plane as an act of war. ADS-B etc.
Someone, or something/s were on a Malaysian airlines flight that someone didn't want to arrive at it's destination.
Now if someone demonstrates they know where it is, it creates three problems.
So sure enough…"no one knows where it is" is the official line. Again, space is waaaaayyyyy bigger than the Earth's surface, and a lot of space is tracked, and objects a lot smaller than an airliner.
Unfortunately, I think it's going to be one of those 20+ year things (Freedom of information leak etc).
Might be a tin foil hat theory…but again, all we have is theories and two Malaysian airplanes no longer flying.
@tunzafun001: Respectfully, you should shut up and look at the evidence :)
A second Malaysian airlines plane was shot out the skies only 2 months later. Way too close together in time for a coincidence, and you don't accidentally mix up a passenger plane as an act of war. ADS-B etc.
There are a number of similar incidents. Itavia 870, Korean 007, Iran 655, Ukraine 752.
@Techie4066: The point of difference is that there was no ADS-B in pre 2014 incidents.
If it was a pilot issue, then it would have simply been found. Nowhere is remote on Earth anymore, we can track things in cms, a plane is huge.
https://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/faq/#:~:text=Large%20orbital%20debris%20(%3E%2010%20cm,statistical%20estimate%20of%20their%20numbers.
@tunzafun001: "Just working on what I do know." - and yet ignoring the most obvious evidence you could easily know that is readily available and detailed investigated / reports released, why? Is it because it is too straightforward, boring, and simple to be of interest to you…?
You keep talking about tracking things in space - obviously tracking the relatively few things that are in a big open space is easy, versus separating the vast number of things on earth amongst all the other things (like comparing say tracking a few needles in a big empty box, vs in a giant haystack). Lots of things make lots of noises and move around all the time on earth, compared to space junk and satellites orbiting in our patch of the solar system. The vast quantities still make what is tracked orbiting around us in space look miniscule vs finding one plane without its transponder on somewhere in the globe.
There are two types of radar primary (e.g. military) and secondary (e.g. ATC) - secondary requires the plane to talk back using its transponder. The pilot actively planned a route and avoided the systems designed to track commercial aircraft by turning them off so it disappeared from secondary radar, which is what is used to track the planes for air traffic control, and even planned the timing right after saying goodnight to one country's air traffic controller before it was supposed to contact the next country's ATC, so as to give the most time to get away when no one was looking when executing a u-turn and then route around certain airspace to go unnoticed. There are primary radar detection systems, but the military had no reason to be alerted to looking for commercial airliner's blips on the radar at the time it was relevant, so they would have went by without anyone caring. By the time they did realise, the plane was somewhere out in the middle of the Indian Ocean where nobody is bothering to look, no one knew it was relevant, and outside of a lot of primary radar range. It's fairly straight forward.
As for underwater, sound travels very long distances through water, and unique types of sounds not typically heard in the natural environment which contrast to it can be listened for - and of course they knew about the mini-sub, it's not a well-kept secret the US have ability to do this from places like from Hawaii and in the Atlantic with a vast underwater surveillance network of hydrophones etc designed specifically to detect submarine activity given the threat they pose in modern warfare. Whilst parts of the details are definitely secret, it is well known the US Military run the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS), and mobile devices like Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System (SURTASS), and are further developing the Deep Reliable Acoustic Path Exploitation System (DRAPES) and various other systems. However that is particularly in the Pacific out of places like Hawaii and the Atlantic off their east coast (Submarine Force Pacific and Submarine Force Atlantic respectively). Its existence is all in the public domain, because even secret things' existence is generally known because its hard to hide as they employ people, procure contracts, get funding etc - it's the exact details that are kept under wraps. They even had SOSUS back 50+ years ago in the cold war listening for submarines. I doubt quite so much capability in the middle of the southern Indian Ocean where they have little interest (hardly anyone does, except maybe us).
As for MH17, its quite clear what happened - they flew over effectively a war zone in eastern Ukraine, where poorly controlled rebels who had been given missles for surface to air combat thought it was a target / threat. There's not a lot of doubt over that. This one was flying out of Amsterdam, so not even remotely connected to the same military alliances as the last one. What do the conspiracy theories say the separatists fighting in Ukraine were supposedly trying to prevent reaching KL and why exactly?? - exports of Dutch coffeeshops reaching Malaysians offend them so much !??! … and you seem to be suggesting this battle in Ukraine was connected to MH370 somehow?? …. sigh
Any flights to Femalé?
We aren't your travel consultants. Maybe if you could have posted a deal or two to contribute to OzBargain someone would be more inclined to help you.
Agree its probably a bit much to ask without knowing if they've searched a few of the contributors sites like flighfinderau, or beatthatflight or iwanthatflight or cheapflighthunter or something… but why so harsh? - so much total nonsense is conversed on here, why is it a massive neg thing when someone seeks help with finding a bargain … you know, the purpose of Ozbargain?
@User411388 - suggest you look at / contact some of those agents, but it'd be nice to actually use their site to book if they find something
Kinda weird you would click on this deal then
Same as how every clicks on iPhone deals just to say they would never buy an iPhone.
Take the deal down OP … My man is not interested.
Not interested in hiankush comments.
Me responding to you and wasting my time is the same as you responding to a deal you already knew what it was about before sharing to the world your disinterest.
Not weird
Funny people have time to down vote a comment
Is September a good time to visit Maldives?
Heavy rains characterise the Maldives' September weather, often occurring at night. It's one of the wettest months of the year, which is why most tourists tend to avoid travelling to the Maldives during this month. Still, the islands enjoy several hours of sunshine each day, giving you ample time to spend outdoors.
I've been there in September and it was beautiful weather. Slightly cheaper and quieter than peak season. You're exactly right, sunshine in the day and a couple storms at night which was a great experience. We were there for a 10 day honeymoon, maybe 2 days were cloudy/stormy.
Sure. But you had an incentive to stay inside.
doesn't have to be inside..
I visited for 6 weeks in August some years back and the weather was absolutely incredible. I don't think it rained once.
Yeah bro El Niño
Maldives is absolutely once in a lifetime visit but make sure to go on a resort and not during monsoon season. Absolutely amazing but it won't be any different for people who live near pristine looking beaches in Australia.
I live in Noosa, arguably one of the best beaches in Australia, and the Maldives are completely different. It's a lot different staying on a small island, the colours, food (we enjoyed incredible Sri Lankan food), vegetation and marine life are very different too. The closest I've seen to the Maldives in Australia is probably Esperance to Cape Le Grand but the water there is so cold and filled with sharks it's basically unswimmable.
All Maldivian beaches are not pristine white sand beaches either. I have been to some really good sand beaches on the Eastern coast of Australia and they are equivalent if not better. And it's an informed argument because I've been to Maldives 3 times for work purposes including once to a private island on a corporate retreat not open for public.
Maldives is absolutely once in a lifetime visit
Why can't you go a second time?
If you go twice you become a citizen
You can but it's expensive af. Not the OzB way.
I've never been and would have liked to go. I'm put off by the climate extinction / global boiling going on though. I've heard it's not safe to go as the island are basically drowning in rising sea levels. Such a shame because it sounds lovely.
The have been reclaiming land. For e.g. Hulhumale is next to their capital city/Island Male is a reclaimed island. The airport is located on that island.
That doesn’t make sense. If you think rising water levels will drown the islands, doesn’t that mean you should go while you can? How is it dangerous? You think it will just go underwater while you’re asleep?
Check the price of accommodation before booking the flight.
Malaysia Airline is absolutely horrible! I experienced everything from cancelled flight, broken & lost luggage on my recent flight. Never again.
Agree,
sometimes you don’t even land … weird
broken & lost luggage on my recent flight
That has nothing to do with the airline.
Baggage handling is generally outsourced to other companies so it's likely the same company handling your bags regardless of the airline you are flying with
Yeah bingo. The other benefit is a lot of credit card insurance has generous baggage cover (even if missing for a few hours).
Mine went missing for just over 25 hrs, and it was fantastic. I didn't have to carry my bags through all the post airport to hotel stuff (they brought them to me)..and I believe I was entitled to $500 - $1200 with insurance (but never claimed it).
I would rely on my own personal experience rather than your assumptions. If they have outsourced their baggage handling to 3rd grade companies, then it should reflect on their service and reputation. We had 2 cancelled flights (one after boarding) within 36 hours and nearly everyone in our flight had their baggage either badly damaged, lost or both. All 4 flights of our overseas trip including connections in Malaysia were at least 2 hours late.
I have travelled with Qantas, Thai, Singapore and Cathay but never experienced that level of general incompetence. You get what you pay for.
has anyone done maldives with children? have young child not sure if maldives is particularly high yield with bub in tow
Get a BMW if you're looking for high yield.
If its Boeing, I aint going.
I guess because seeing other parts of the world is fun & interesting.
Imagine wanting to travel outside of your country, you should try it
Maldives is way better than qld lol, but depends what you're going for I guess.
Luckily going to one set of beaches doesn't exclude you going to another set of beaches.
Malaysian Airlines flying over the Indian Ocean. WCGW
That's what they are good at doing all along!
So many ignorant still making fun of the tragic.. and still blame MH for that
Who should be blamed in your view? Malaysian government I guess. Until there is a closure, they will always be blamed for not doing enough and deserved so! THERE ARE hundreds of people disappeared and many more families broken.
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