+ $100 Upgrade to MSI HD7970 OC Twin Frozr BE
Limited Time Only
The $279 PowerColor 7950 runs at 850Hmz to 925Mhz
The MSI 7950 that we use runs at 880Hmz to 960Mhz, and also with better cooling.
Fair enough, but it's still a close enough comparison. Either way it's still a good deal.
Can you do a better price for Ozbargainers ?
Thinking of getting it aswell. Just a tad lower price would make it more attractive.
maybe ask them not to assemble it for a discount since they are charging $4 assembly fee
as carbon12 stated the parts cost $884
the parts cost $884
that's retail at MSY, I'm pretty sure they cost the store a lot less than that…
I'm not. The margins on PC parts are incredibly low, to the point that small stores can't even buy parts from the distributors cheaper than MSY (or similar large stores).
Add $100 for an SSD, $30 for an extra stick of RAM, not a great choice of parts if you ask me
An SSD isn't necessary for gaming, and you don't need more than 8GB RAM, which I assume is 2x4GB, but even if it's not how are you going to rectify it with an extra $30?
CarbonTwelve is absolutely right.
For a budget gaming build, the majority of the investment should go straight to the GPU, then the processor; since the majority of titles these days are GPU-dependant, that is the biggest bottleneck most rigs will have.
SSDs will not make one lick of difference to your FPS (you might see some improvements in loading times but even then it's not an exponential increase) and 8GB of RAM is more than plenty (hell most games barely utilise 4GB to begin with).
An SSD might not make the game go any faster/ perform better. But it will turn your system ON faster, thus allowing you to game quicker. Is it worth $100 extra? thats up to you
Load times between levels is heaps faster.some game you can be killing the competition or building Even before they other people are in thegame!
My steam library exceeds 370gb.. thats not even including origin and non client based titles installed. Unless you are freakin' loaded or only have 1 - 2 games installed that you frequent, an SSD for games storage is far from viable for the average oz-bargainer.
Personally I think SSD's are way too overhyped. I added in the 128gb plextor that was on here a while ago and barely noticed an improvement on my ageing rig. The bios post time is what kills my boot times. I keep my system pretty clean and minimal though so I guess there isn't much holding my performance down in the first place.
"you might see some improvements in loading times but even then it's not an exponential increase"
I'll have to disagree with ya on that. Games/maps/missions load a lot faster with an SSD.
Really depends on the game; whether it's procedurally-generated (like an MMORPG/RPG) or not (multiplayer FPS).
I think you mean dynamically loaded, not procedurally generated.
He could also mean systematically created.
I got my gaming pc after upgrading the last deal from budget pc. Highly recommended, great service too after my ssd failed.
Hi Budget PC.
I am looking to buy a machine that can do really big files in Photoshop on a regular basis.
Lots of RAM (32gb), faster processor, good graphics card etc…
Will you have any specials any time soon on higher spec machines?
Thanks!
Again great to see no bundled OS…
The only gripe I have with this system is that while a WD Blue is going to be no different from a 7200RPM drive for gaming purposes (unless it's a procedurally-generated game that loads resources on the fly, in which case you may experience stutter), it will be horrendously slow when it comes to boot times, file access, read/write speeds, caching, random access times, burst speeds, etc.
I tried having my OS on a 5400RPM HDD once and it was a noticeable step down, even when compared to a 7200RPM drive. Opening a browser could take a minute (this was on a i5 2500K with a 8GB of RAM and a beefy GPU), copying files to/from removable media took twice as long as it what it should.\
Edit: Can a rep confirm if the HDD is 5400 or 7200RPM?
WD Blue 500 GB SATA Hard Drives (WD5000AAKX)
SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM
Ah ok. Great build then. Can't fault it.
All 3.5" WD Blue drives are 7,200 rpm. It's only the Greens that are slower.
if I were to enter the world of "hardcore" gaming, playing FPS and Car sims, is this "perfect" for me?
I don't want to upgrade for years!
For that you might want to upgrade to the HD7970 Graphic Card, which will give you a performance beast for under $1,000 dollars. If your budget is not limited, you can also go for the water cooled K version CPU with Z87 mother board and a decent SSD.
Hardcore? are you going to run 3d or 3 monitors or dell ultrasharp?
If running games at 1080p you might need a 2nd video card for high details and framerate
IGN tested Battlefield 4 on PS4 and said the PC version was superior in Gfx and framerates
So you can get better than next gen console performance right now
I suppose this system is great if the motherboard allows ati crossfire 2 Gpus
"IGN tested Battlefield 4 on PS4 and said the PC version was superior in Gfx and framerates
So you can get better than next gen console performance right now"
You don't say? You can get "better than next-gen console performance" with a PC from 2 years ago.
yes even probably 4 years ago with quad SLI i was just letting Jimmy know how great PC is in comparison
basically I refuse to play on console if PC version is available
You don't need a second GPU just for 1080p. As for Crossfire, although the motherboard supports it, the second PCI-e slot only runs at x4, so a second GPU will be severely gimped and basically not worth it.
How quiet is the PSU and Casing? Any better alternative with those 2 items without killing the budget?
why use B85 ???
There are options for upgrading to H87 or Z87 in the product page.
Because there's no reason to get anything better than B85 unless you're overclocking (which is very restricted with this CPU) or wanting SLi/Crossfire (for which you'd need a better PSU). Basically, B85 is fine.
Price…
I don't really know much about PC, but is it worth spending the extra $100 bucks on the HD7970? and/or upgrading the motherboard?
the 7950 is a pretty decent card.. you'd have no problems playing pretty much every game at high or ultra
crysis 3 might be a a struggle on max.. depending on you framerate standards. Check this link http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-ben…
I'd be more than happy with that result but would probably tweak it to bring that min up. That is no doubt a reference speed card so you might so a 10% or so increase with this card. I'd assume on 1080p it would play pretty good though. I wouldn't loose sleep on it. I run crysis 3 with custom graphics settings on my old rig with a 560ti and the difference between preset max and what I use is barely noticeable.
My opinion is the upgrade to the 4670K and Z87 board is more worthwhile than the GPU. It will delay the time at which you need to replace the entire system, since when it does start to show it's age, you can simply overclock it. Spend a little now, save a little later. GPU's are easy to upgrade.. cpu's a mobos change chipsets like there is no tomorrow though. There is pretty much no future proofing besides OC.
The 7950 and 7970 will probably become obsolete simulatenously.. there's 1 frame difference in the minimum in that link.. worth $100? I think not.
Thanks dreadpiratedan will spend the money on the CPU and Motherboard instead :)
I was so confused as to why I couldn't make a similar build to this, but not exceed $1000. I was only putting a 7770 as the bare minimum in it too.. then I realised no OS :p. Not to mention I was going 4670K build and all but I digress; this is a very nice deal and I'd have no trouble recommending it to someone after a simple build for a not so tech-savy user. Already forwarded the link on to the mate I was researching that 4670k build for to see if he is interested.
Not a fan of the PSU (Thermaltake generally aren't that great, and you really don't need 650W for this), but otherwise seems to be a good build, and 2 year RTB warranty for the whole system is quite nice.
FWIW, individual part prices (from MSY unless stated):
CPU: $208
Mobo: $89
RAM: $76
HDD: $60
GPU: $279 (PCCG)
ODD: $19
Case: $58
PSU: $95
Total: $884