My Umart Custom Build - Feedback Please

Ventak on 15/10/2013 - 15:31
Last edited 15/10/2013 - 18:09

After using the Build Your Own Computer feature on the Umart website, I've come to this arrangement:

Intel Core i5 4670 LGA1150 CPU 3.4Ghz 6Mb Cache Haswell $249.00
Asus B85M-E 4xDDR3 PCI-E 4xSATA3 4xUSB3.0 DP DVI D-SUB HDMI GLAN $92.00
Kingston 8G(2x4G) KHX1600C9D3P1K2/8 GDDR3 1600MHz CL9 HyperX $96.00
Seagate SATA3 2TB 7200RPM Barracuda 64mb Cache $95.00
Intel SSD 60GB 525 Series, mini PCIe, mSATA 6Gb/s, 25nm, MLC, read/write speed 550 MB/s, 475MB/s $125.00
Gigabyte GV-N660OC-2GD GTX660 2GB,1033/6008MhZ,HDMI $219.00
Pioneer SATA DVR220L 24X DVD Black & OEM Software $20.00
CoolerMaster RC-K281-KKN1 Gaming Case No PSU USB3.0 $55.00
CoolerMaster 650W GX 80+ $94.00

All prices are online ones. If I get them to build it, it costs $1181, if I just get the parts all separately, it costs $951. This is without Windows, monitor or any peripherals (mouse, keyboard).

I'm unsure about whether or not I need a network card, as most likely this PC will be using wireless, not a fixed connection to the router. If people could recommend/suggest/provide helpful feedback on my build, that would be welcome.

Also, is there a certain time period where they have sales on their parts? I'd like to keep the price around $1000…but the current price is over that by $150-$200 (if Umart builds it), that's why I ask.

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  • Aragami on 15/10/2013 - 15:42

    Gday, before you ask for feedback, can you please state the following:
    1. What will this computer be used for most of the time? (some sort of 100% split would be useful)
    2. What kind of computer user will be using the computer? (someone very interested in tech? a gamer that is only interested in games? a grandma that wants to contact her relatives via email?)

    Thanks =)

    • Ventak on 15/10/2013 - 17:58
      1. Pretty much everything, from everyday uses (browsing, word processing) to gaming. I dunno how much programming it could do, but I'm not too fussed about this.
      2. Mostly just me, but my parents might use it occasionally (they know enough about tech that they're not going to always ask me for help with basic stuff like locating an email in a folder).
  • _Bruce_ on 15/10/2013 - 16:46

    I'm unsure about whether or not I need a network card, as most likely this PC will be using wireless, not a fixed connection to the router.

    Every motherboard comes with gigabit ethernet. Avoid wifi if you possibly can.

    Otherwise nothing wrong with this, depending on using.

    • Ventak on 15/10/2013 - 17:58

      I can't really get a fixed connection, as the computer will be in my bedroom, which is at the back of my house, while the router/modem is at the front.

      • scrimshaw on 15/10/2013 - 19:46

        Buy a dual band Wireless n card, if you have networking equipment that's capable of dual band.

        For eg http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2… ($39 bucks)

        TP link is nice and cheap. I use TP-link for work and home, and don't have an issue with them.

        • Aragami on 15/10/2013 - 20:26

          can also overly vouch for tp link, best value home networking gear at the moment.

  • scrimshaw on 15/10/2013 - 17:42
    +1

    Intel SSD 60GB 525 Series, mini PCIe, mSATA 6Gb/s, 25nm, MLC, read/write speed 550 MB/s, 475MB/s $125.00

    60 gigs (which will actually be 55GB) of storage is somewhat restrictive, even for a general purpose computer. Windows itself will take 10GB of storage.
    Instead of spending $125 on a Intel SSD, why not try a Samsung Evo 840 120GB SSD for similar price? You get double the storage for the same price.

    CoolerMaster 650W GX 80+ $94.00

    Get rid of this and get an Antec or Corsair branded power supply. I suggest an Antec High Current Gamer or something similar from Corsair.

    RAM

    Instead of the kingston 1600mhz for $96, why not get 1833mhz variety for $99? It'll give your CPU a nice little performance boost of around 3-5 percent, for only a couple of bucks extra. Well worth it IMO.
    http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2…

    • Ventak on 15/10/2013 - 18:07

      60 gigs (which will actually be 55GB) of storage is somewhat restrictive, even for a general purpose computer. Windows itself will take 10GB of storage.
      Instead of spending $125 on a Intel SSD, why not try a Samsung Evo 840 120GB SSD for similar price? You get double the storage for the same price.

      I was considering getting a Samsung 128GB SSD 840BW Pro SATA3 2.5 beforehand, as I heard the Pro is a lot better in terms of performance compared to a normal Samsung 840. But the cost seems a bit excessive. How much difference is there besides the price point?

      Get rid of this and get an Antec or Corsair branded power supply. I suggest an Antec High Current Gamer or something similar from Corsair.

      Any particular ones you'd suggest?

      Instead of the kingston 1600mhz for $96, why not get 1833mhz variety for $99? It'll give your CPU a nice little performance boost of around 3-5 percent, for only a couple of bucks extra. Well worth it IMO.
      http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2…

      Alright. Is there any difference in quality between G Skill and Kingston?

      • _Bruce_ on 15/10/2013 - 19:25

        I heard the Pro is a lot better in terms of performance compared to a normal Samsung 840. But the cost seems a bit excessive. How much difference is there besides the price point?

        Not that much. Higher in benchmarks, real world not so much. Pro will last longer though.

        Is there any difference in quality between G Skill and Kingston?

        Not really, it's all the same. Look at the timings though, pick something with low timings.

        • Ventak on 17/10/2013 - 00:10

          The timing on the Kingston is 9-9-9, while the G Skill is 9-10-9.

        • scrimshaw on 17/10/2013 - 06:52
          +1

          You should buy the RAM with the lowest timings in the same speed frequency class.

          You can't simply compare CAS numbers, if the ram aren't using the same clock frequency, because CAS is measured in number of clock cycles.

          ∴
          10 ÷ 1833 = 0.0054553
          9 ÷ 1600 = 0.005625

          As you can see, there are pretty much the same, with negligible differences. Frequency is usually more important than timings, and that's the general consensus amongst overclockers. Your timings don't have to be drastically low anyway — they only matter if you're benchmarking.

      • scrimshaw on 15/10/2013 - 19:38

        As Bruce stated. Not much difference between the Samsung Pro and non-Pro — you don't notice it in real life.
        RAM brand is not important either, Kingston, G.Skill, Corsair, all pretty much the same, though they may be priced differently.

        For the power supply, here are some recommendations

        High end range
        Antec High Current gamer
        Seasonic S12

        And the value range (doesn't mean it's bad — it's just more basic, and the warranty period is shorter, usually 3 years instead of 5.)
        Antec VP550
        Corsair VS550

    • Aragami on 15/10/2013 - 20:25

      please stick to 1600mhz ddr3 ram, intel doesnt cover you for warranty if you go over that for your cpu i believe.

      • _Bruce_ on 15/10/2013 - 23:22

        Source?

        • Aragami on 16/10/2013 - 07:52

          http://ark.intel.com/products/75047/ official intel website for the cpu, as well as multiple forum sources around the internet where people have had experience trying to warranty return an intel cpu which were using >1333 or >1600mhz ram (depending on cpu generation) and they flat out got rejected.

          If you want to use higher specced ram, then either be prepared to void warranty, or use an AMD system. Downside of using AMD system is the very old architecture that they've been stuck on this whole time, makes AMD almost pointless.

        • _Bruce_ on 16/10/2013 - 10:32

          You linked a spec sheet and refered to people writting stuff in forums. As I am suggesting this is hardly a great source of reliable information.

        • Aragami on 16/10/2013 - 10:56

          Congrats, you can read. I suggest you take that skill, and go back to the intel page, around the section that has memory specification for the cpu and read out what memory types it supports.

          You were a goose a few months ago when i made a few posts around here, and you still seem to be one. Stop thinking you're a big shot because you're posting on ozbargain forums.

  • ItsMeAgro on 17/10/2013 - 23:25

    Intel SSD 60GB 525 Series, mini PCIe, mSATA 6Gb/s, 25nm, MLC, read/write speed 550 MB/s, 475MB/s $125.00

    Way too much for a 60GB. Buy a reasonably priced 60GB/64GB, or just get a 120/128GB for around the same price. Samsung and Crucial M4 are good.

    Gigabyte GV-N660OC-2GD GTX660 2GB,1033/6008MhZ,HDMI $219.00

    Not much GPU for a thousand-dollar build. If you're going to be gaming, you'll wish you'd skimped on some other bits and spent more. You can get one of the HD 7950's or GTX 670's going on special for 250-ish (probably closer to $225 over the next few weeks as new GPUs are set to be announced).

    CoolerMaster 650W GX 80+ $94.00

    This build requires no more than 450W - 500W (provided the PSU brand is good). 650W is for top-end (around $1000) video cards or two video cards (sli/xfire).

  • bl0407 on 25/10/2013 - 22:13
    +1

    Well they offer new installation now

    http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/120594

    • Ventak on 26/10/2013 - 09:49

      That's really good to know :)

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