Title says all. The dell monitor sales is back !! For those who missed it - here is it again.
Dell Monitor Sales Is Back! Dell UltraSharp U2713HM @ $580
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Unfortunately, it tops out at 30Hz 3840 x 2160 and 60Hz for 1920 x 1080
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It's also a TN panel. Apples and oranges really..
$699 would be USD, too bad it will only be 30hz
Why is 30hz no good?
Gaming. Higher refresh rate = better. 50/60 Hz is a usual starting point.
I wonder how much of a shock it would be to people used to playing games/everyday stuff at 120hz+ monitors if they decided to switch to a 4k monitor with only 30hz.
set your monitor properties to refresh at only 30hz… see if you can live with that lol
then you have gaming at 30fps (which will probably happen anyway if you're not using a top tier card)
30hz is what consoles were like prior to the current generation.
Many PC gamers run from 96 to 144hz nowadays.
They'd be perfectly fine & content with their purchase until something on the screen moved
I bought this on sale just before Christmas.
Was asking the sales lady some questions through their online chat, and she gave me an additional $5 off (score!!!)Very happy with it.
However, I wasn't able to get the full 1440 when connecting to my Surface Pro (converter to mini display port). Only 1080.
With the Toshiba DynaDock, I was able to reach 1200.Had to buy a DisplayPort to Mini-DisplayPort cable online.
Hmm, it says in the box is a DVI, VGA and USB cable. Is the USB cable for connecting it to the computer to allow a hub on the monitor?
Ps. Why can't more useful cables be included? (Not aimed at you jsjslim, more for Dell and other manufacturers)
Yup, those are the only 3 cables included (hdmi cable not included).
And yeah, there's a built-in USB hub in the monitor.
2 on the left side, 2 on the bottomUSB 3.0 Hi-Speed Hub (with 1 USB upstream port and 4 USB downstream ports)
I'm daisy-chaining it with my DynaDock to get even more ports for my surface pro :D
I think it's because DVI is the standard for computers whilst HDMI is for TVs.
I read somewhere that HDMI doesn't truly support 1440, whilst DVI (Dual link only?) does (along with display port).
That could be the reason.
That's what I read too. That's why I went and buy a DVI to Mini DisplayPort initally.
Unfortunately, I think I've bought the non-dual link adapter.In any case, I've already ordered a proper DisplayPort -> Mini DisplayPort cable.
Hope it arrives soon!Though even at 1080, this monitor is great. Very bright, lots of ports, and able to swivel to portrait mode.
HDMI is not important, DVI is heaps better for monitors. you can always get cheap HDMI if really needed.
Nice monitor but I can't seem to pull the trigger on these. I'm still waiting for a sale on the U2414H but so far no luck.
haha, come to the dark side! Once you tasted 1440, you can't go back to 1080 or 1200… it looks so sharp and when gaming you can see the difference.
As i said before, used my mates 1440 monitor for a day… said to myself "Damn, now i gotta get one"
Oh gee thanks, now I'm even more tempted :p I shouldn't be spending!
(And yet I keep coming here to OzBargain).
lol "it is your destiny (to buy this =P), you know it to be true" <— is that the correct quote, disregard the bracketed part
I highly suggest you monitor ebay and gumtree for u2412/3/ used monitors. Some of them are in good nick and include warranty and can be had quite cheaply. I don't know so much about U2414 though.
Alternatively, browse the dell outlet website for refurbs that they list every now and then. They also come with warranty and are often great below RRP:
http://www.dell.com/learn/au/en/audhs1/campaigns/dell-outlet…
Scored a U2312 for $140 recently from there with 1 year warranty!
Good idea :) I always forget about it.
Use code "FLGV6?C3SM2DLZ" 12% off works for u2414h and most other dell monitors
Don't you have to be part of the affiliate program to be eligible to use that, though? Thanks for the tip, in any case.
Same here. I know it's new, but I don't really get their reluctance to discount it - it's not like it's one of the 4K models.
wait for the 4k monitors people. asus has also announced the 28 inch PB287Q 4k for under $800
Yea, and once they come out it'll be 'wait for the 8k monitors people' haha.
If we keep waiting for the next thing out there, well, you can solve that :)
Not really relevant in this case. The last major screen development was in the availability of 2560x1600 screens, way back when Dell released the 3007WFP back in 2007. If you bought one of them then, you would still be at the bleeding-edge of screen resolution now, in 2014 - 7 years later.
If you buy a new 4K LCD when they are released this year, you could be fairly comfortable in the fact that you will be at the new bleeding-edge of screen resolution for at least the next 7 years.
The whole mantra of 'if you wait for the next big thing, you will never buy any tech' doesn't hold much sway here.
You should be waiting for 4k screens if you are in the market for an expensive, 27"+ display.
If all "4k" monitors (should really be 2k if we go by how the previous monitors are named 1080, 1200, 1440 & 1600) are limited to 30Hz refresh (w/o overclock) then these are terrible for fast pace gaming… and still bad for normal gaming IMO….
These would be good for movies only, which is kinda limited to 24fps… i do agree with the 27"+ for "4k" though… any lower then that doesn't require such a high resolution.
Yeah, buy superseded tech now, before it becomes unavailable.
That Asus, now that looks tempting.
Cheers for mentioning it. I was going to get a 1440p but with that releasing this year, I think I just found my next monitor.That PB287Q is a TN display, which compares poorly to the IPS display on sale here in terms of viewing angles and colour accuracy/rendition.
Also, the "under $800" price is for the US market, in US dollars, and excludes US sales taxes. It'll likely cost over $1k in Australia — possibly double the cost of this Dell.
27"+ 4K 60Hz+ IPS (or PLS) displays are still going to be on the expensive side for a while yet, and probably won't reach this price level for another few years.
wait for the 4k monitors people
I'd wait a year or two, not as soon as the first batch is released
Upcoming 4k monitors work in 2 ways.
- single connection: limited to 30fps at UltraHD resolutions (like the seiki on sale at amazon)
- dual connections: Screen is basically tiled with 2 ~2k resolutions, means you're basically running in eyefinity ie. issues with some games, but you get 60hz goodness.I'd rather have a 1440p IPS than a 4k TN… specially at 27" screen size. Can't imagine the color shifting at that screen size.
Yup, they seem to do this kind of deal monthly or so… but i recently got this monitor and its brilliant.
1440 @ 80Hz is how i set mine. The colour is gorgeous and the monitor can be OC'd to about 90Hz (for me, just right for gaming) and the stand isn't as flimsy as the cheap korean 1440 monitors…
I'm in love with my 2713hm atm… give it some time though… i want my Gsync monitors lol
When are you expecting?
haha, i haven't ordered one yet, since they're only bringing out ASUS ones for now, i wanna wait til Gsync becomes abit more widely available before i make a decision.
Yeah one of the things i really love about premium Dell monitors (besides the panel, of course) is the quality of the stand. they're super robust, heavy and can be adjusted to perfectly suit your position.
Yup, it rotates left and right, and tilts vertically and can go to portrait or landscape.
Wow I never knew monitors could be OC'd .. Is this general knowledge and I've been living under a rock or something…
Lol i didn't know either until last year. You can oc it using your graphics cards… i think the onboard one works too but not too sure.
Whether you're in the red camp or green camp i think there's a universal program for it. I current use the EVGA program though.
Be warned though, it could lower your monitor's lifespan
Is the monitor actually refreshing above 60hz? AFAIK scaler + OSD = dropped frames
Mine is reading 80Hz after i oc'd it… and when i left it on stock it read 60hz… readings from the on display menu
so unless theres a way to tell, i reckon it is
(sorry dupe comment mods please remove)
wished the U2913WM is 38401080 but it's only 25601080
One of these day's I'll cave in and buy on of these. Really don't care about 4k, especially if I want to game with it
Just spoke to dell rep online, and he could only bring the price down to $574.
Anyone keen on saving the $6, go do it!
:-)
Good on him! Most reps wont bother when an item has been reduced already.
Crossover 27QW is a better value monitor imo.
I'm actually actively looking for a 2560*1600 reso monitor just for desktop space (not for gaming).
Currently running a U2711, but open for other suggestions for different models to buy.
Crossover 27QW sounds good, I guess the price is about $350AUD+ to get it shipped to WA?
Edit: I actually meant 2560*1440, but looks like everyone understood my typo haha.
Still, 2560*1600 would be pretty delicious!
Depends, if you don't put a value in support and the fact that dell will ship you a monitor + a return box in case of a major issue, then I'd go korean.
But then ~$400 + $100 for return shipping to korea is still under the price incase of DOA.
Dell's aggressive anti glare is what kills it for me.
Good points, also from what I remember, Dell have better dead pixel return guarantee process than the korean ones?
The anti-glare is not so bad on the U2713HM… used the aggressive anti-glare from all the years using the U2711 haha.
Alternatively, there's the QNIX monitor as well: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-QNIX-QX2710-LED-Evolution-27-256….
Hmmm…
Dell pretty much guarantees absolutely no dead pixels, korean's have a return policy if you have more than 1 in the centre or 5 around the edges. On "pixel perfect" models you just have some guy check the screen before shipping, if he misses a dead pixel i think they just refund the difference between the pixel perfect and normal listing prices.
I haven't seen the new coatings they use, but one of the main reasons I went korean was that they were the cheapest mirror gloss screens other than the overpriced apple cinema displays. If I didn't have ocd with matte screens, I'd go Dell hands down.
There's also the Yamasaki Catleap 27" models. But for my money, I'll go for the Crossover.
I own the crossover 27q, definitely recommend it amongst other koreans ips. Going to try the kogan one next, glossy + multi inputs $450 (400 on sale). 14 day return policy if I find the scaler and multi inputs add too much input lag.
Best place to grab a Crossover is from ebay.com?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-27-Perfect-Pixel-Crossover-27QW-…Where did everyone else grab their *1440 reso monitors from?
Bought mine from greensum
greensum, redhat and accessories whole were the preferred ones back then
Have a look at the kogan monitors aswell, they're probably of similar quality but it's one of the cheapest one with multiple inputs (if you need it), plus you got someone to yell at if things go wrong.
btw the monitor you linked is 1440p, 1600p are the 30" ones that are about double the price
Yeah, I mistakenly wrote 1600p in my first message and realised it after awhile it was a typo for 1440p :|.
1440p is fine for me, 1600p is too luxurious and would destroy my wallet.
Yeah, the kogan one looks to be $449 (special around $400?).
I'm not really after multiple inputs/USB Hub as the U2711 covers that.
Hmmm, would you trust buying the crossover monitor from the link I provided above from ebay?
should be fine, don't think the seller has any effect on the dead pixel lottery. Weird how his pixel perfect is cheaper than other seller's normal listing price though
The coating on this monitor is suppose to be weaker in comparison to the U2711 which gives better colour even though it is anti glare
Yeah I can confirm this, brother in law has 2xU2713HM and the anti-glare coating is definitely less than my U2711 (I used his two monitors for an eyefinity setup one time).
Why are monitors larger than 24" still so expensive.
I bought my 24" Dell 1080p for $199 around 5 years ago.
I'd like to get a bigger monitor. I don't need a bigger monitor, but it might be nice, not sure - but it will need to have a higher than 1080p resolution so that everythings nice and sharp and easy to read etc.
I'd happily pay $250ish for a 27", or $400 for a 32" or so.
I thought they'd be those prices by now.
You can get PLS panels for like $350 on ebay
Your 24" is most likely a TN panel, cheapest panels to produce.
IPS monitors are now all the rage, much better viewing angles & superior colour. As a result they're more expensive especially if you want colour accuracy
Note the M which denotes that it is a budget model, U2713HM. You want the U2713H when its on sale for a little bit more.
Unless you're running a FirePro or Quadro, you're just gonna get blown out colours.
Also, depending on what you need it for, the U2713HM is actually better in some situations… though U2713H is better for colour critical work.
Also as thecontact said, unless you run pro cards, you can't use up the LUT of the U2713H
Nvidia gsync is coming with 120hz and 1440 res
It's tn panel but supreme for gaming and lowest non CRT lagI still don't get the whole point of Gsync. Yes it removes the upper framerate "tearing zone" above 60hz but any 120hz cheapy monitor will do that aswell. AFAIK theres still an absolute frame rate cap based on the limits of the monitor, meaning no true 400fps on quake. If your GPU stutters and drops framerate, i don't think any type of vsync will cure that lag.
Gsync instead of syncing your GPU to the limit of your monitor, it syncs the monitors refresh to your GPU…
If your GPU jumps from 60fps to 40fps, the monitor's refresh rate changes from 60hz to 40hz to compensate thus "supposedly" getting rid of all screen tearing and "apparently" input lag.
Actually to look at it this way, it just provides a dynamic refresh rate for monitors rather then a static one…
@thelastnoob
Overlord Computers' monitors might be getting the gsync treatment as well (i.e. catleaps and what not with gsync). So we might soon see 1440 gsync IPS… though it would be after all the ASUS TNs with gsync seeing as currently it is ASUS exclusiveI wonder if AMD's Freesync will catch on and give similar results… Perhaps by mid this year we'll know.
From a comparison of the two found online, freesync wasn't as good… BUT they aren't as mature as Gsync apparently
Thanks for the heads up, I just ordered 2 for work, as I was waiting for this deal to come up again.
Dell, from what i heard the PB278Q is a PLS panel… will need to research
Just ordered one!
Dell 4K is coming, only $699
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/01/07/dell-w…