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55" Agora 4K Smart 3D LED TV (UltraHD) @ $999 + Delivery at Kogan, Shipped 30/4/14
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Haha, one of the best analogies!
Well - if there is no basis for comparison, you can't really say with certainty that it's not a good price, can you? :)
I guess you could argue it's not necessarily OzBargain-worthy because we don't know what it should cost. In the meantime, it needs some kind of starting price, and then I suppose we'll see what the market (and tech reviewing community) thinks.
…meanwhile, I'm upvoting your comment anyway, just for the bizarre analogy to canned tuna :)
4k Seiki's (39") are ~$575 inc delivery when on special, but this is 55"!
You can also enjoy being part of kogan's working capital raising for the 7 weeks before your goods get to you.
Came here for the 30hz. Not disappointed at all.
Does Samsung, Hisense, LG and Sony (or any other 4k maunfacturers) list their pc resolutions? It states that it has a refresh rate of 120Hz below the pc resolutions are they any different or just unlisted?
If it's 120Hz for 1080p, It should still be decent for gaming.
Like 99% of TVs, it's 120Hz frame-interpolated. It will only take a maximum 60Hz signal, and then make up 'in between' frames.
It's also only HDMI 1.x, meaning it won't accept a 60Hz signal at 4K resolution and is limited to 30Hz.
Other manufacturers (eg. Sony) have pledged HDMI 2.0 firmware updates across their entire 4K range to support 2160p60. With Kogan…who knows.
Where in the specs does it say HDMI version ?
Agree though,if it ain't HDMI 2.0 don't bother,it won't be future proof.
Still good value compared to other 4k units .
Specs say it is HDMI 1.4
Forgive my ignorance, how do you watch 4K content? Where does it come from?
Home made porn at 15fps with your Gopro HD Hero 3+ black that you got on special from here?
Cover the children's eyes!
That would be good for 2-3 mins. What next?
A trip to a specialist.
AMI - Mouthstrips of nasal spray?
Galaxy note 3 records in 4k. Good to know vines videos will be in 4k now.
Exactly. Full HD content is still not even close to being standard. Ultra HD is a sales gimmick at this point in time.
Full HD is not even close to being standard? Really. havent you ever watched a blu-ray? FTA might not transmit in Full HD but Full HD content is very much standard. every camera these days also records in Full hd. And some of the new phones now record in 4K. So 4K is slowly starting to pick up. will take a few years thou. And dont expect to have 4K FTA any time soon. Not enough bandwidth for that.
so it is like Beta?
FIX THE NETCODE…
I wonder who will understand…
FTA TV in Australia is an absolute joke, effectively standard definition, and not getting better anytime soon (all the additional spectrum just got sold off to the telcos)
Australian streaming/catchup services are even worse and sub-SD
There's no 4K disc standard yet for at least a year (and few titles once it launches)
There's no 4K streaming device you can buy right now to plug into a 4K TV either (even if you could manage to sustain the 15Mbps connection to a US server)
Virtually no TVs (yet) support the HDMI 2.0 standard needed for 4K at 60Hz.
I'd imagine the complete lack of broadcast and streaming HD (where Australia is 5-10 years behind much of the developed world) is what BTRaynes is referring to.
….something else that has a "4" in it perhaps?
We will have to settle for streaming Netflix 4k when more content becomes available - http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/netflix-expects-modest-4k-tv-…
It will happen gradually over the next few years, most content is filmed in 4k now even down to tv shows like big bang theory (you know the kind that we really need 4k for). I won't be satisfied until we get South Park in 4k, that's the point that I'll be buying in to the technology.
Every time I go into a video store, 90% of people are renting DVDs, not Blu-ray. One woman even came in and said "I got the Blu-ray by mistake, can I return it and swap for the DVD?". It's really quite sad. The majority of the tens of thousands of titles released over the last 15 years on DVD are not yet available on Blu-ray either.
I believe it was the scholar Sir Stan Marsh that once said -
'renting movies is more ancient than Madonna's boobs'http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/southpark.…
lol what the…FHD not standard?. Living under a rock?
Not on FTA or the Internet buddy. Not by a longshot.
how do you watch 4K content?
stills from your camera.
Nobody is going to notice the difference between 1080 and 2160 in a moving image.
Well, they think they can. I remember all the oohs and aaahs in the shops over the Channel 7 demo loop when HDTV came out. They were broadcasting 576P :-)I seen a 50-60" 4K screen at Harvey Norman a couple of weeks ago, I could definitely tell the difference between 4K and 1080P.
You wont at home with nothing to watch on it.
Well, we are almost living in the time of back to the future 2.
High time we were watching multiple TV channels simultaneously and wearing goofy hats if you ask me
I want my two ties look to come in
"You never have to turn your gaze away from the Agora 4K TV! Browse the internet, check up on your friends via Facebook, keep up to date on Twitter, manage your emails, watch the latest trending videos on YouTube and get the latest Android apps and games – all on the amazing 55” 4K display of your TV."
WOW. Just WOW. a 4K TV for umm… facebook. LULz
saw a 55" sony 4k couple of days ago $3500. prices falling daily :-)
http://www.harveynorman.com.au/sony-bravia-55-4k-ultra-hd-3d…
Specifications: Ethernet 10/100
Have fun streaming 4k!!!
a) Australian internet connections are going to be a much bigger bottleneck than a 100Mbps network interface…
b) H.265 effectively halves the bandwidth requirements of H.264. Netflix's 4K HD is only 15Mbps. Even if they end up increasing the bitrate/quality (ala Netflix HD going from 3.8 to 7Mbps) there's plenty of headroom.
If you read about the Cheaper branded 4K TVs on amazon.com like on the link below ,I would conclude that its too early to get into the 4K market especially with the cheaper manufacturers. Loads of Bugs and issues need to be ironed out before these become a usable out of the Box for the Average consumer.
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra/p…
My 39" Seiki is quite nice for desktop use. 30Hz is a bit 'laggy', but it's really not a huge deal until we can Game at this resolution (I drop to 1080p 120Hz for gaming).
I thought 30Hz @ 4k was a HDMI1.4 limitation, would streaming 4k from youtube have the same problems?
where do you get 4k on YT?
How is that a problem? Youtube will only be 24-30 fps anyway. Same with blu-ray. You want to watch HFR hobbit?
content isnt going to be 25-29fps forever. If its running android as I assume I might be able to sideload APK's for sports streams or simple games.
Basically I was trying to work out if the internal computer is connected via a hardwired HDMI or some other interface.
In manic's defense, the content played in the lifetime of this tv will only be limited to 30fps (short of pc games). Australia is decades away from ultraHD broadcasts, that's if internet streaming doesn't take over by then… but thanks to our current government, were decades behind on that aswell.
The limitation is usualy with the drivers themselves. These cheaper models have no way in displaying true 60fps because the logic board just can't do it.
3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz…..if I really every buy a cheap 4K tv I might consider Hisense, I know it is from China, but at least they manufacture their own tv, unless Kogan is just buying from nowhere and please their logo
I have a 55 inch Hisense I paid about 800 bucks for, and it's great. I'd go into a store and look at all the LED tvs without paying attention to the brand, and I'd always pick Samsung and Hisense tvs for the best picture. I seem to recall reading the Hisense LEDs have older gen samsung panels.
ahhh… every panel has a legend. :-)
Let me see, should I buy this or the Panasonic 50" Plasma THP50ST60A for $200 more ($1195).
http://www.2ndsworld.com.au/tv-audio-accessories/tv/plasma-t…
Gee what a tough decision.It's not a hard decision really. Unless you have substantial 4K content at your hands from a 4k handy cam, then the panny is years ahead on PQ.
Buying a 4k tv now is like reserving backrow seats at a stadium at front row prices before you even know which teams are playing.
Buying a 4k tv now is like reserving backrow seats at a stadium at front row prices before you even know which teams are playing.
Love it!
and Broden is already one step ahead of you.
He already bought out the backrow =)
The ST series Panasonic will outperform any 4k LCD in most circumstances, not just this Kogan cheapie.
Contrast is more important than resolution above 1080p. Test after test has proven it.
4k is the biggest marketing swindle EVER. But hey, they're selling… People have money to burn, obviously.
If you have to bring Panasonic plasma to compare this TV's picture quality, this would be best bang for buck tv. Anyone considering this TV would not think about getting best possible picture out of it.
The problem with these cheap TVs is that they have cheap upscalers.
They'll play HD content fine but if you play a 200mb/300mb xvid or mkv from a hdd it won't look that good compared to a Samsung or Panasonic which will do a much nicer job upscaling it.
It's not a good price because there's no basis for comparison. They're dumping the worst 4k TV's in the production process on the lower end of the market through import discounts. Expect to see a soniq 4k around this price shortly.
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