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Hi, Just saw this on Kogan, seems like a good price for the 32gb version.
Nexus 9 32GB Version $499 + Postage @ Kogan
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Is this one of Kogan's grey imports shipped from Asia?
If no GST and no local local HTC warranty, is it still a bargain?Well that is if you consider saving $90 over buying from play store is worth it. Google have no GST too, but supposedly some Telstra stores have stock now and you can pick it up for $589 there. Kogan price works out similar to the recent Amazon sale.
I don't know why this "Google have no GST" keeps being repeated. Check the last line of this page: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_9_32_GB_… - "All prices include GST"
Obviously you haven't purchased from the play store recently. They used to include GST but changed it earlier this year.
Plenty of discussion about it here
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I think the only ones that are currently being charged GST are the 16Gb wifi models currently being supplied via Telstra.
Even the google supplied invoices are apparently no GST, so if claiming the GST is important you might want to wait till retail has stock of the various models.
you need to email google for a tax invoice.
TRS might refuse to refund (happened to me, 4 Nexus 5 in Sydney Airport).. I asked why on email and they refunded on the next day.a lot of trouble for the 10% i say
Google did in the past, but that changed sometime back, now there is no gst on devices from the play store.
Under federal law, Kogan would be required to provide warranty support for this whether grey import or not, wouldn't it? (Statutory warranty and all that)
Note: I'm not saying that it would be easy, or that you would even win a battle with Kogan about it.
Manufacturer warranty is usually a lot better. Local agents in each city. How is Kogan? How fast?
This line from their warranty policy is troubling::
If Kogan is unable to repair or replace the Product, the customer will be provided with credit for Kogan's storeI knew Google were a bunch of greedy tax-dodgers, but did no know they went so far as to avoid GST.
It's troubling in that it might land them a big fine…
From the ACCC website (https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees…)
If you have a minor problem with a product or service, the business can choose to give you a free repair instead of a replacement or refund. When you have a major problem with a product, you have the right to ask for your choice of a replacement or refund. For a major problem with a service, you can choose to receive compensation for the drop in value below the price paid, or a refund.It isn't like it would be the first time Kogan has been asked in for a chat by the ACCC.
(http://www.zdnet.com/bad-boy-kogan-called-to-acccs-office-13…)Edit: I hope it lands them a big fine. After some of the consumer-relations stories I've heard about Kogan, I would like to see Ruslan Kogan choking on refund receipts.
@2be8: A big fine for Kogan is not necessarily a win for the customer either, sometimes the benefit of cheap prices, is shortcuts in other areas. A one-size fit all regulatory minefield does not know where these shortcuts need to be taken, and shortcuts to doing things is innovation. And btw customers are free to choose other producers who offer similar prices but better services. This is the way to punish businesses like Kogan for pulling tricks that no one demanded. You don't always have to use force.
Often institutes like the ACCC instead become a tool for other jealous competitors who craft their regulations to spin to their advantage. Whenever you see massive media hype surrounding the ACCC and some firm being pulled aside (again), I bet you 95% of the time it is being instigated by a competing firm.
The point of the regulation is that you can't take shortcuts in some areas, such as warranties. I agree with the current law that covers statutory warranties. If someone is manufacturing and selling something, then it should work. If it doesn't work, it should be replaced. It should work for a reasonable length of time given the type of product and price. I wouldn't have thought any of this would be particularly contentious. Maybe you think that someone should be able to spend less to gamble that their device will not fail. That might be so, but the problem is that it risks the industry uniformly moving to short warranty periods. Consumer law exists to some extent because there a a much greater ability for manufacturers to collude to minimise warranty liabilities as a group than for individuals to fight back by choosing other brands.
As for your claim that the ACCC becomes a tool for jealous companies '95%' of the time, I'll make the equally well-backed statement that your claim is unmitigated nonsense.
why you no have microsd card slot!
nexus will probably never have a microsd slot
why you no have microsd card slot!
if it did, nobody would pay the $110 extra for 32GB (16 extra) model.
Another innovation shamelessly copied from Apple.In that case, make 1 model (32gb perhaps) and include a card slot.
Because Google wants you to store everything in their cloud so they can snoop on your stuff.
Why would they want nudie selfies of me?
I am waiting for the LTE version to be released. it is imminent now. I think it will have the build quality issues ironed out. The buttons on the current Nexus 9 being sold sure are not up to normal HTC standards. I mean HTC might want to get back into the tablet market so they are not going to produce a great quality for Google are they.
Google used to subsidize Nexus products. Now their asking price is in the iPad vicinity for grey imports. Yuck. And also, 4:3 ratio, no thanks.
Just beware, few users note that the hardware buttons are very difficult to press. Next batch fixes this issue.