Gaming Rigid build parts help.

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  ProjectZero on 16/02/2015 - 17:58

  With a budget of 4k… go SLi to get about 80% performance boost. (I should probably mention up to)

  Also, don't bother with liquid CPU cooling… biggest gimmick as a D14 does the same job for less… but I suppose you do have money for it…

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    [Deactivated] on 16/02/2015 - 18:08

    Thank-you.

    I'm not too sure what does SLI's even do.

    What are the benefit's of having 2 or more graphic's card's?
    Does the Vram add up togther? eg 2x 4gb GTX 970's = 8gb vram in total?

    i have Liquid cooling in my Hp pc which has a Corsair H90 but Hp Branded and i really like it since it's almost slient and pc seems to be at a cool tempeture.

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      leonheart1 on 16/02/2015 - 18:30

      They don't and I recommend against multiple cards due to likely issues in games. Either get a 980 or wait for the 980ti or the 8gb version.

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        ProjectZero on 17/02/2015 - 08:43

        I run a 780 Sli in my rig, don't really see any issues with multi card setups.

        I have heard that it stutters for some though. Regardless the increase in performance is generally decent.

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      scrimshaw on 16/02/2015 - 18:31

      VRAM doesn't add up in a multi-GPU configuration. The cards mirror the information, what one card does the other is also doing, so you will not see an increase in available VRAM.

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      ProjectZero on 17/02/2015 - 08:45

      If you have a GPU in the case on air cooling… no matter how quiet your CPU runs, you will have loud fan noises from the GPU.

      Multi card setup has increased performance, so let's say you can get 40fps on crysis 3 with 1x GTX 780, you will get up to 60fps with 2x GTX 780.

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  scrimshaw on 16/02/2015 - 18:27

  +1

  Do you plan to sell off your current machine? Why not just re-case it in your new CM case and add in a new GPU+PSU?

  computer parts depreciate quite a bit you know… you may have spent $2k on it new but selling it may only net you back $1200 or so, depending on a large number of circumstances. For e.g you may need to pay a massive 9.9% if selling on ebay and may have to deal with idiots and low-ballers on gumtree.

  So by selling you've lost $800 in value and you're spending another $2k on a new system.
  The alternative solution is to just buy a new GPU ($400+) and upgrade the PSU ($100) and you're pretty much set.

  FYI your 4770 is already more than enough for a gaming system, the only thing you're lacking is GPU and SSD performance.

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    [Deactivated] on 16/02/2015 - 18:44

    I'm planing on keeping my current machine and use it for media and games that don't need much power like Euro Truck Simulator 2 and hook it up to my Flat screen TV and buying the new system for extreme gaming.

    i purchased this pc back in early 2014 so it's nearly a year old now.

    Always good to have a backup pc.

    After i built this new gaming rigid i'll be keeping it for a while so i want to have the best parts and reliable parts on the market.

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      DJ on 16/02/2015 - 19:45

      Wow dude, you must have major money to burn.

      $400 - $700 will get you a great graphics card to go into your existing machine. You may/may not need a new PSU as well.

      You can run Euro Truck simulator an a machine you can build for $600 - $800, especially if you reuse your old graphics card (you don't need a monitor, as you're using your TV).

      So about $1500 worse case, for a gaming rig that will see you right for a few years at least, plus a damn good second rig.

      BTW, you don't mention what resolution you want to run your games at, that's pretty important.

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        [Deactivated] on 16/02/2015 - 19:54

        Not really.

        I haven't bought a computer in ages before buying the HP.Normally will spend big then keep the system for over 4 years before replacing it.

        The last computer i bought was back in 2007 which was a Hp Pavilion Elite and that was $4000 for a Intel Core 2 Quad with 6gb DDR2 Ram.

        The PSU in my Hp is only 600W and the case is too small to even fit a 970-980.

        1080p res.Planing on getting a 4K Monitor once price goes down a bit.

        GTA V is the main game i'm building this system for since consoles don't have mod's.
        Glad it got push back to March since i don't have a proper gaming ridge for it.

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        DJ on 16/02/2015 - 20:07

        @Hewlett-Packard:

        In all seriousness, and with no offense, stop buying HP's then, you're spending too much on the brand name :-)

        If you're going 4K, then get a 980, not a 970. You'll be able to afford a 4K monitor within the $4,000 budget you've set - and probably a second 980 for SLI.

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        [Deactivated] on 16/02/2015 - 20:15

        @DJ:

        I've learned that lesson.Back then i just wanted something off the shelve but now off the shelf computer's are just not good enough so that's why i'm starting on builting my own pc and get some recommedation's if the part's i've chosen are any good and if not what else are there on the market that are good.

        i'll probebly start with buying 1 GC first then buy another later.

        Just a quick question,can you mix a 970 and a 980 togther or a Asus 980 and a MSI 980?
        sorry,first time buiding a pc.

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        DJ on 17/02/2015 - 02:08

        @Hewlett-Packard:
        You can't mix Nvidia cards that are different such as 970 and 980. You can mix different brands of the same card but for best performance you may not want to do that and instead stick with same card and clock speeds

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        Kozhutki on 17/02/2015 - 04:58

        +1

        @Hewlett-Packard:
        Building a PC specifically for GTA V is ignorant. If we base GTA V on the optimisation of GTA 4, that's enough to decide that performance is going to be inconsistent for the majority of systems, irrespective of how much money you throw at it. There's also no confirmation or proof that mods will be allowed (they more than likely will be, though).

        It seems you're painfully unaware of the computer industry (buying branded computers) and just want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a computer with no coherent reasoning.

        For the sake of trying to help you, please watch some YouTube videos on how to build computers and understanding other things relating to computers (SLI, etc). I recommend LinusTechTips for computer building / hardware reviews & TechQuickie for all the nitty-gritty to do with computers.

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        [Deactivated] on 17/02/2015 - 18:41

        @kaneissik:

        GTA V is one of the games.There are other games like the Battlefield series,Project cars,Simulator's like OMSI 2,Flight Simulator,Euro Truck,NFS and many more.

        I've have watched some of Linus's vid's and that is how i got in mind some of the part's.

        I have never built a computer before but i do not how to assemble one.Cable managment in Hp computer's is outgrages with wires passing everywhere and block's airflow.

        Can you help me chose a list of part's for me?

        Mostly Asus and Corsair branded.

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        Kozhutki on 17/02/2015 - 19:30

        @Hewlett-Packard:
        There's a fantastic community on Reddit for building computers. PCPartPicker is also great for comparisons and seeing what other users have built. I would start there, once you get an idea everything becomes really easy.

        Building computers isn't that tough, just be smart with how much money you're spending. Don't unnecessarily over spend just because you have the money.

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  IceCreamBandit on 16/02/2015 - 21:45

  PSU-Corsair Ax1500i 1500w

  Why are you going for that much power???

  Using the specs you posted up in the OP and putting the parts into this power supply calculator, you could even live with a 500W PSU. This is massive overkill unless you're planning to run (and overclock) multiple power hungry graphics cards, and the GTX 970 certainly isn't one of them.

  More isn't necessarily better, or even useful in this case.

  Going by what connectors are available, you'd get more value out of the PSU if you started your build with this motherboard, featuring 2 CPU sockets, quad SLI compatibility and 14 SATA ports!

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    Merlict on 23/02/2015 - 12:50

    Agreed. Regretted overspending on an ax1200 for a 2 card CF system, this for one 970 is beyond overkill.

    Extra $300 in your pocket if you drop down to a ax760 and still has the silent mode /modular cables etc.

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    Pepsi to go on 23/02/2015 - 17:55

    FutureProof.

    The PSU can be reused for years on?

    Now that i know what SLI is i will be adding more then 2 cards GTX980 1080 1180 etc.

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  Kozhutki on 17/02/2015 - 04:43

  +1

  I would suggest salvaging as much of your current computer as you can to cut costs. Budget of $4000 is quite high if you're not an enthusiast or graphic designer among other professions. You can easily build a $2500-$3000 computer that is high-end without the unnecessary kerfuffle.

  Are you sure you want to spend this much money on a system when you're not even aware of what SLI is/does?

  Spending more money =/= quality/necessity.

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  Soundwave on 17/02/2015 - 08:19

  +1

  The PSU is way too much. With those specs, I would say 1000W max but a 750/800 will definitely do.

  Maybe check these PC Case Gear built machines. Most of them are well spec'd and under $4000. Their service is pretty good as well.

  http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=14…