Hi,
Currently have a Kambrook Jaguar twister - 2000watt - bagless
Current system still works and isn't that bad but the filter system is a real pain to clean out and loses suction quite quickly.
As title says home is 2 rooms, no pets and 2 adults at home.
Don't need a big unit but something that is easy to navigate through the home and does a top quality job while at it.
Happy to spend around $400 with room to move if worth while.\
hoping there might be bargains this time of year!
thanks!
thanks so much.
I had a feeling they would be the suggestions but not sure on models and where to buy them.
Never had an upright vacuum but maybe that would be a good change.
I have a Miele, but found I can get (genuine) bags online (ebay/online shopping) for quite a bit cheaper than physical stores. Especially if buying multi-packs.
So that is an option.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Dyson-DC37C-Origin-Barrel-Vac…
= $319
or you could get one of the portable ones DC45 or a dyson v6 for a bit less.
Saw this one last night and it appears to get better reviews than the dc54.
get a cordless dyson … for a small home they cant be beaten … heck i live in a 5 bedroom house and we still just have our cordless dyson and will never go back to the corded versions … Sooooo handy and easy
Hi,
which cordless dyson will you recommend? I'm thinking to buy one!
I agree with the cordless one. We have a corded dyson, then bought a cordless one for the car and spot jobs around the house. We now use the cordless one almost exclusively, it's that good.
We have a cordless Dyson and a corded miele, the Dyson makes carpets look clean but if you follow up with the miele you can see the difference, the Dyson does not do a proper deep clean. Still awesome for a quick clean but it can't replace a real vacuum.
Agree with Martyn, my new Electrolux is far more powerful, but wouldn't ditch my cordless Dyson for little and quick jobs.
Miele S512. Get the turbo head too.
As Lexus mentioned - the bags - do you find it becomes costly for replacement bags throughout the year?
Not really. I got a free box with the vacuum and then bought 5 boxes of genuine off ebay very cheap.
We had bagless vacuums before and found they were a pain to empty & clean. With the bag just pop it out and drop it in the bin. Bags come with new filter in box. Would never go back to bagless again.
Overall it works out to be cheap as the Miele will last a very long time and with the savings from not having to replace the vacuum more than makes up for the cost of a couple of bags a year.
Surprised how much the Mile bag holds… only use 2 a yr on average (in a large home btw).
Cheap vacuums work out to be the most expensive over time as you have to replace them every couple of years, plus they just don't perform.
BTW.. Don't get the down specced cheap Miele from Godfreys, get the real thing.
Well said.
Thanks! Where did you buy yours??
@dmb0312:
Harvey Norman. Most of the regular retailers sell the genuine Miele vacuums… The Good Guys, Domayne, Bing Lee,…
Henry. There's a reason you see them used commercially so much. http://www.thehut.com/household-appliances/numatic-580w-henr…
One of these will also save you around $50 a year on your electric bill compared to a Dyson and it's only around half your budget.
EDIT: Hetty even cheaper if you don't mind pink.
Great deal. Have you bought from the hut yourself? If so, did you need to buy a power point converter? Any key benefits of this model?
Would it be worth getting this as an add on?
http://www.thehut.com/household-cleaning/numatic-airo-turbo-…
Literally bought hundreds of items from The Hut Group including Zavvi, no issues at all.
I have the blue Henry which I bought from them a few years ago. Hasn't missed a beat since and does an excellent job of keeping the carpet clean. In fact, it does so well that when we have our Rental inspection, the lady always comments that we have the cleanest carpets. We live in Circle on Cavill in Surfers Paradise, there are hundreds of apartments with exactly the same dark grey carpet and most vacs struggle to get the little bits of white fluff on it. All the cleaners here also happen to have the same vac too!
You'll need a Uk to Aus adaptor which you can get on ebay for a $1 or 2.
I would recommend getting the Airobrush for it too which can be had for around $50 on UK ebay. Makes cleaning the carpets even easier and gets right into our deep pile rug. Lifts the pile to make it look new again.
thanks for all the info.
Had a quick look on ebay for the heads - $38 non genuine and about $64 for a genuine.
I heard the hut won't ship numatic vacs to aus anymore? Is this not the case.. Bought a George a while ago, but thought I read something regarding shipping changes.
+1 for Henry, although I've only used the 1200w version— which I did have posted then realised it wasn't available any more… sorry.
Brilliant units, I purchased one from The Hut a couple of years back. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure I had to get myself the power point converter.
I can only see the 580 and 780ws on Zavvi
http://www.zavvi.com/elysium.search?search=numatic&switchcur…
No worries, just realised these vacs use a bag system. Are they available in aus (the bags)
Just realised godfreys sells the Hetty for $495….what a joke.
Just looking into it, im fairly sure that the 1200w that Adz91 is referring to is the wattage at max power as it has 2 modes. That is what mine says on the top of it also, on low mode it should be 580w, which is the same as currently offered on The HUT
Also, i'm fairly sure we got about 3 bags when it came. You can a pack of 5 genuine replacemnet bags for $13 here
thanks - that makes sense.
My only concern is that after a year or so…the cost of the bags will begin to make the unit just as costly as say the
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Dyson-DC37C-Origin-Barrel-Vac…
@dmb0312:
I've had mine for 2 years and only needed to change the bag once. The Henry units are proper solid too. Aaaand they have a face :D
A friend of mine thought the face was a ridiculous idea… Until I loaned Henry to her… now Henry is referred to by name and apparently has a very helpful personality.
We probably only need to change the bag once every 3 months i'd say, so based on that, it would take around 19 years before the cost exceeded the Dyson. Even longer if you buy your bags in bulk.
580w is to weak to be called a commercial unit. the bags are also one time use.
there are plenty of real commercial units for less then $400 with cloth dust bags, paper bags and hepa filters.
Like I said, there is a reason why cleaners choose to use these. Call them what you want, but they're used commerically because they are good at vacuuming, solid, economical and a good price.
I'm going to strongly advise against any of the Numatic brand "Henry" vacuums.
Copious complaints can be found in this post.
It would have been a great vacuum in 1980 when Henry came out, but it's 2015 now and this thing offers absolutely nothing over vacuum technology from 2 decades ago. If you're still clinging onto a non-bagless/non-powerhead vacuum it's really time to move into the 21st century.
Copious complaints can be found in this post.
What a load of tosh.. The complaint you point to is yours… and only 1 other person agreed with you.
So your outrage takes the place of counter-arguments? Well that's convincing. I'm sold.
And 10 people agreed with me, but whatever… it's a vacuum cleaner. It's not a religious issue for me unlike some people who seem to defend it like a newborn.
I stand by what I said. It's a sh*tty vacuum bought by people who don't know better. My review didn't say it has no redeeming qualities, if you bothered to read it, but that it's predominantly worthless.
No, 10 people upvoted your comment. Most likely due to the fact it was funny rather than accurate.
To anyone who doubts the performance of this vac, just read some reviews on Amazon, the vast majority have nothing but praise for it.
If its used correctly it'll outperform most of todays vacs.
@gooddealmate: And like any long-selling item on Amazon (available since 2003), if you skip past the very dated and self-aggrandising wankfest on the front page comments with self-appointed subject matter experts stroking each other's egos and go to more recent or 1-star reviews, you can see actual, objective feedback. (I've never seen so many one liner 5-star reviews; meanwhile all the 1-star folks have written a combined Bible more than all of the positive reviews put together)
This review in particular reinforces what I said:
It had great suction but that does not unfortunately translate as good at picking up. If your carpet has any sorts of pile then it is like a workout at a gym to hoover with poor results. It works fine on flat surfaces - like tiles & wood.
I bought a henry after seeing reviews on here - especially about how they're used in airports & hotels etc. I believe that they are reliable and will keep on sucking for many years - but don't fool yourself that a good vacuum cleaner nears good suction alone. Also think of the type of floor coverings in airports & hotels - usually pileless carpets. Also they don't have cats shedding there fur very much at the airports/hotels I go to. I wish I could get everyone in doubt about a vacuum to my house to try both the Henry & the Dyson as they'd see first hand that there is no comparison. The Dyson beets it hands down.
However, the dyson is much more expensive so if your house is mainly wood/tiles then it probably wouldn't be worth paying the extra as the Henry works fine on these surfaces.
Henry is well-built (because it's from the 1980s and weighs as much as two bagless vacuums combined) and is okay for tiles/wood flooring but other than that, fails miserably on all other surfaces. Bagless, cyclonic vacuums with powerheads excel on all these surfaces and more and they don't give you a horribly sore back or require Popeye arms to manoeuvre and work on thicker carpet fibers.
So you get a sore back, struggle to push it around get tangled in the wires. What are you? 4 foot 2 89 year old woman?
if you skip past the very dated and self-aggrandising wankfest on the front page comments
ok… first 2 pages ordered from most recently.. 20 reviews of which 18 are 5 stars, 1 4 stars and 1 at 2 stars.
weighs as much as two bagless vacuums combined
more lies… it weighs 1.5 kg more than a DC37 for example, not double.
okay for tiles/wood flooring but other than that, fails miserably on all other surfaces
False, I have one, I have a carpet which shows every bit of fluff and hair. See my comments above, rental inspectors have stated that we have the cleanest carpets in a building of over 500 units with the same carpet and have asked what Vac we use for them. That's not just a coincidence.
So you get a sore back, struggle to push it around get tangled in the wires. What are you? 4 foot 2 89 year old woman?
Do you want a Victoria Cross for vacuuming the couch one-handed while not complaining Mr. Olympia?
Yes, it is a lumbering, heavy, cumbersome piece of sh*t. Gloss over it all you like, but the fact that this hunk of 1980s antiquity weighs 8.5kg (generously understated by the manufacturer, since my HVR-200A says 9kg on the scale) is one of the main reasons I ditched it in favour of my current Hoover Prestige 7010PH which is 5kg (including the hose/powerhead). The difference in handling between a Henry and almost any modern bagless vacuum is night and day, not only due to it's weight, height (about as tall as a wet & dry vac) but also due to it's retro, ABS-plastic castor wheels which have the rolling resistance of a tank tread (which are inefficiently arranged in a tight circle to further compound it's ass-backward, shopping trolly-maneuverability).
Maybe there are lifestyle differences involved as well but I don't have all the livelong day on my weekends to spend 4 hours vacuuming my house and needlessly grinding my carpets to the point where they're hot to the touch from friction, when my Hoover Prestige 7010PH can do it in half the time and effortlessly glides over carpet with 80% less effort and yet picks up more filth than the Henry.
So spare me your infantile claptrap about folksy, good ol' fashioned elbow grease like your my grandmother rekindling 1950's nostalgia about the good ol' days and move into the 21st century of vacuuming already.
rental inspectors have stated that we have the cleanest carpets in a building of over 500 units with the same carpet
So you live in a retirement community full of invalids who can't move without a walking frame or a bunch of Centrelink dole bludgers. Good for you. I can sleep better knowing you get along well with your inspectors who probably also moonlight as product testers at vacuum cleaner conventions in their spare time too.
Its great having an argument with a liar, you just can't lose.
Gloss over it all you like, but the fact that this hunk of 1980s antiquity weighs 8.5kg (generously understated by the manufacturer)
nope, Mine weighs exactly 6.8 kg with a mostly full bag which I can't be bothered to remove just for the purposes of this debate.
The difference in handling between a Henry and almost any modern bagless vacuum is night and day
If you can't wheel round a Hnery with 4 wheels in each corner then you're doing it wrong.
So you live in a retirement community full of invalids who can't move without a walking frame or a bunch of Centrelink dole bludgers
Again, no. Average age under 35, some of which have Dysons.
I can sleep better knowing you get along well with your inspectors who probably also moonlight as product testers at vacuum cleaner conventions in their spare time too.
I think you should really put your effort into comedy performances rather than dissing a vacuuum that is better than most. You're actually quite good at it.
Made in Germany Miele (there are made in China ones that are not as good) check out the Miele official australian webstore…cheaper than in store some times!
Bags IMO are much better than bagless, esp the Miele hygienic bags that seal them selves with a flapper door. Ensures none of your dust gets back into the air. But it could be a factor depending on how much you need to change your bags.
i got the smaller model of the phillips vac http://www.godfreys.com.au/philips-powerpro-compact-bagless-… works a treat.so much so that it actually lifts the carpet and hasent lost suction once
Numatic Henry the vacuum. http://www.henryvacuumcleaner.com/
Can be had on ebay for <$400 or wait for a godfreys sale
Ive got a dyson dc59 aka v6 for small jobs eg crumbs, An irobot for effort free unmsnned vacuuming and mopping. then there is henry for bigger jobs around the house or for renovations, the car, the wood shed. He's just awesome, saw dust, platerboard dust, fibreglass dust, paint dust, woodchips, sand. Just a trooper at about 10years old now still going strong like new. Snd always service with a smile
Miele or nilfisk.
Both good brands.
I feel your pain with bag less. We have one atm and it's so bad.
Losing suction so quickly and emptying it is a nightmare.
I'm giving another +1 for Miele. Picks up everything. Suction has also been consistent throughout the years I've had it (think we're on 3 years now). Also, do not have any issues with the bags. It's a lot more hygienic than bag-less solutions in my opinion.
Get 20% off one today via C20EXTRA ebay. I know you don't have any pets but the Cat and Dog Miele is really good for $409.20, you could probably get a cheaper one but this has the turbo brush with it.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Miele-Complete-C3-Cat-Dog-Vac…
This is looking like the best option at the moment
I've been using a kmart $60 bagless vacuum for the last 3 years. I need to empty it every month. i use it in my 3 bedroom house.
Thank you all for your comments so far! I am now more confused than ever :) haha.
Sounds like a Miele is a good option and the fact that if i have troubles i can claim warranty locally is convenient.
Any more suggestions on models?
Get Air VAX Up Right Vaccum. Just in last 8 years I've bought more than 7 vacuum cleaners until I settled on this one. The ones I tried were in the price range of $100 - 400. But I've never had a Dyson so I can't compare with that one. However after buying this Vax Air I don't need to shop any further and I've been using this for over 18 months. I was so happy with the brand so I went and bought a shampoo cleaner of the same brand without thinking twice.
Miele S512 - we've had a few different brands over the years and this is the model we love!
Been looking online and cant see them for sale…
Miele S5212 - $298 - http://www.harveynorman.com.au/miele-s5212-vacuum-cleaner-re…
Apparently, that is 50% off from Godfrey's price - http://www.godfreys.com.au/miele-s5212-vacuum-cleaner
Dyson dc54. With 20% off and cash rewards is around 390 mark from the good guys
$400 for a vacuum? Just buy a used commercial backpack vacuum off ebay.
We bought something like this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Backpack-commercial-vacuum-cleane…
For $50 and it cleans our 3 bedroom house with no issues.
You could save $350 and if it brakes in a year just buy another one…
I have been happily using a mid range Dyson DC25 for 3 years.
I live in a 3 BR townhouse, vaccum every fornight and it never fails me.
Only requires one clean up per vaccum and it is super easy as it is bagless like other Dyson. I didn't experience suction loss during cleaning.
I suggest you go to Hardly Normal as they normally have all of the available models for demo. You can play with each of those before you make your buying decision, whether online of at store.
Do not suggest wireless one as they only give you 15-30min max operation time in practice. Also with dust bag that small you will need to clean it up during vacuum…
I've got both DC25 and Dyson Animal, both have different uses. I use the Animal for cars and just because it is portable but for small and quick clean where I don't need to plug something to a socket while DC25 for a big and proper clean. Yes you cannot use the wireless ones as your primary cleaner.
for what it's worth my old housemate's girlfriend has one of these and it was an absolute beast at getting dust and dirt out of these gross thick old carpets we had at a very old place we used to rent:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Electrolux-Super-Cyclone-2100…
$190.40 after the 20% off code is a good deal for what you're getting. pretty easy to clean too (the top lifts out so you can just open the side flap over the bin :) )
Don't waste your money on marketing. This is what professional cleaners use at a fraction of the cost. Ask yourself, have you ever seen a commercial cleaner use a dyson or meiele or some other whizzbang vacuum? There's a very good reason.
are these bagged vacuums? how much do replacement bags cost?
Got a Dyson DC25 in 2008, still going strong. I would highly recommend it. I have used brands like Piranha and some other cheap brand. It felt really odd spending so much but over the years it has been of great value and hence cheaper than what I would've spent on bad quality vacuum cleaners. It was double this price back then but now it is under 400$. I'll go for the same one again or perhaps a better model.
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/dyson-dc25-origin-upright-vacu…
http://www.harveynorman.com.au/dyson-dc25-origin-upright-vac…
The Miele one I found on the street during the last throw-out $0
It's 2400W sucks the carpet off the floor
24 new linen/lined bags and filters $35
It'll keep sucking for years!
We had all kinds of vacuums before and now have dyson for the last 5 years. It is still as good as new … Very reliable unit and excellent customer service….
I highly recommend the dyson cordless vaccums. They are really good.
If you think you know someone who sucks well. Wait till you use the dysons.
Biggest pro, 20 min battery life on full charge. That means I do not have to vaccum for more than 20 min at once. WIN!
The concise answer. For $400, I would recommend a Dyson or Miele.
Dyson is bagless, so some manual manipulation to empty canister is required. While Miele is bagged, so disposing is much easier, however, some cost goes into buying bags for Miele vacs.
Finally, you have to decide if you want an upright or floor canister model. Generally, the uprights have shorter hose lengths but better carpet cleaning ability. While canister models have longer hoses for good reach. A motorized head is essential if carpets are mainstay in your home.
Either models are well liked in this forum and seem to be top picks.
Hope that helps you.