I saw this deal this morning when looking for decking oil. I have the same model but white color that I purchased last year for ~$190 from binglee. For $99 I think it's a bargain! Build quality is good, and I love the door style.
Plenty of stock in Masters Canberra Airport
Apparently it's nationwide as comment below
Spec:
http://www.sharp.net.au/product-catalogue/products/R67B1S/
Nice deal for canberrans. Does 850W microwave food as quick as 1100W would do?
Is this a serious question?
OZB asking the serious questions!
Yes of course, 850 watts heats food just as fast as 1100 watts.
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And saves more than half the electricity.
I am unsure if you two aree joking. Saying it uses less than half the electricity makes no sense at all, so I hope it was a joke.
@sol3x No it doesn't. hence the power difference.
Actually YES, if you read carefully that 850W is microwave while 1100W is Grill option, pretty sure 850W of microwave heat stuffs quicker than 1100W's grill… on other side, 1Minute of microwave could really cut down Grill's 5 Minutes preheat electricity bill by more than half, therefore they are not joking… :D
This should be updated to reflect all Masters stores
It's in this weeks catalogue (last page)
Does the door open vertically or horizontally?
Does the door open vertically or horizontally?
It's a drop down door as you can see from the photo.
They open vertically, like lamborghini doors
I thought it was more like the DeLorean DMC 12
Only when going back to the future.
Lamborghini doors open with a scissor action : i.e. hinge in standard position, but rotates up.
Judging by the handle at top, and keeping with car analogies, I suspect it opens down like the tailgate of a ute or SUV! lol
(like any conventional oven)
Great deal, shame its only 850W but shouldn't matter too much. I have a SHARP Carousel (Purchased for $200+ in 2010 and it's still going strong. - If in market for a microwave I wouldn't hesitate. Thanks OP.
I too have used my old Sharp convection oven for 30 years now and it has not died. I like the intuitive button pressing, and who cares if heating something at maximum from cold just under or just over a minute? No practical difference in cooking anything at intermediate powers. 260mm platter - a bargain, I reckon.
My mum still has her 1978 model, going strong. After getting it tested at 5 year intervals bloke testing said you don't have problems with those models. Never skipped a beat
Love it. This is what being "green" truly is. Not hipster green. No need to recycle every year when the product is made right the first time, and lasts a lifetime. Thank you.
How many litres?
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That's an unusual number of litres.
Delitred?
I was going to buy one but having read the terrible reviews of their lack of customer service and the durability of these sharp convection microwaves on productreview.com.au I decided to give this one a miss.
But it's quite a sharp price…
Hmm, I wouldn't base decisions solely on productreview, because we all complain a lot more readily than we praise. How many of us have posted a positive review on our own microwave ovens that we're currently satisfied with?
It could very well be a dud model of course. But not necessarily.
My current microwave oven is a National model that my friends gave to me after uni. It was ancient when they bought it, and it's still running today! The National brand stopped being used in Australia in 1988, so it could very well be at least 27 years old. I was thinking of buying this Sharp to take over when this one dies. Doubt it'd last this long though, especially at that price bracket.
My grandparents still have their National microwave. Pretty sure the first thing they cooked in it was brontosaurus burgers… you could fit another microwave inside of this thing. It's massive!
LOL
Was it so large that it was like another … Dimension?
Old microwave radiation tend to leak. Is this superstition or one of those market strategy to kept customer buy a new microwave?
@rodinthink: i think more marketing. First, there is radiation everywhere around you, at low levels. A banana can emit radiation if you check it with an instrument. A smoker's lung has a lot of radiation
Second, microwaves are very safe. If not, you will hear on the news once every few months that some unfortunate family died from radioactive in their home.
Lastly, if you believe it leaks from microwave, maybe dont stand close when its running. Leaking doesnt mean it will turn your kitchen into Chernobyl.
Correct me if I'm wrong tho
@rodinthink: If there's no damage on the door or hinges, it shouldn't be leaking anything and be safe to use.
First, there is radiation everywhere around you, at low levels. A banana can emit radiation if you check it with an instrument. A smoker's lung has a lot of radiation
Also, they're two different kinds of radiation - ionizing (like the banana and smoker), and non-ionizing (like microwave ovens and wifi). Non-ionizing radiation does not cause cancer unlike ionizing radiation.
I think the main concern with a leak is the radio interference. For example, it'd kill your Wi-Fi signal while running.
My parents still use a National microwave as well. They've been waiting for it to break down for years (to buy a new smaller one) but it just keeps going.
We still have a National microwave too!
Ah National, can't beat the old school stuff that never dies…
Probably why National disappeared (went bust?). Waiting 30 years for a new purchase from satisfied customers!
People keep saying the old days were better.. The cave man days were probably the best days ever for humans.. or the beginning of time
@bargainhunter:
National is Panasonic before they rebranded… :)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_(brand)
@bargainhunter: National was and is Panasonic. Matsushita products were Panasonic in the USA and National here and elsewhere.
@Major Mess: My current microwave is a 16 year old Panasonic. It keeps on going too! It is made in USA though. And it is quite powerful too (1600w).
If that lasts any longer it will be classified as a National Treasure! O_O
:+)
Btw, nice jeans OP, where'd you get em?
Thanks! I look sharp with it. I got my jeans from carpark deal off a guy, strange he was wearing short short in winter. :p
Was he wearing the jeans before you bought it?
whats the warranty on this one ?
On the jeans or the microwave?
yes
does this do microwave plus grill? i m not fan of use of microwave so this silly question. does microwave means it warms the food and grill means we can toast. correct me if i am wrong.
what is convection microwave?
does this do microwave plus grill?
Hmm, the title and photo specifically says "with grill". :)
Wow looks pretty nice. Already have a microwave oven tho, but do need a grill type thing. Was looking at this Sunbeam Pizza Bake and Grill thing http://www.harveynorman.com.au/sunbeam-19l-pizza-bake-and-gr… does pizza which is pretty cool. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to get it cheap. Harvey Norman and Good Guys have it for $100, can get $25 off if I spend $150 at Harvey Norman. Is this the best deal on getting it cheap?? Any input would be appreciated
850W… may as well reheat your food in the sun
You'd burn up long before you manage to get to the sun to insert your food.
I think he meant putting the food outside for the sun to shine on it to heat it up slowly (therefore exaggerated the long cooking time that can be expected from this lower than average power microwave), not literally putting the food physically next to the sun.
No, that doesn't sound right at all
Try to do it before the sunrise
I couldn't find it online … I think its only in store!
"How often should I replace my model?
Microwaves typically have a life span of about 10 years. But if your unit is operating properly after that amount of time, you can continue to use it."
What a useless couple of sentences
Yeah, this was one of those 'post now, think later' posts. Pretty irrelevant in hindsight, sorry!
I replace my model when she starts getting needy
Was looking for a microwave. thanks!
Anyone have any idea how many litres this is?
I don't think it will hold water
I suggest a Bucket 90¢ (has handles) etc…
https://www.masters.com.au/masters/search/masters_search_res…
Based on size around 30L
Could be wrong though
Thanks! just got one from Masters Chullora NSW, Its wasn't display on clearance special
How many left at chullora ?
about 6 or so
None now
Just took a look at Bundall Gold Coast (store opened last Sun). They had these microwaves in silver/white and a stack of Dyson DC37s for $350 (~$200 off?). Good stuff
A flatbed microwave + grill for $99 is very tempting. Do anyone have any idea about
Will the flatbed heat up ready-meal evenly as turntable one?
Can the grill be turned on with the microwave at the same time?
Just picked one up from Canberra store. They still had about 25 left. Comes in white (R67B1W) or stainless steel finish (R67B1S).
Did you overshoot the decking oil section?
20% off their normal price
Thank you! God bless you mate. I was in the market for one. About 10 left at Preston store. At 5pm
Just to reiterate this is not a 'turbo-oven' but a conventional oven powered by electricity instead of gas, with a small form factor.
Handy for the young, live in apartments, or don't have gas.
Would still recommend an entry-level turbo-oven for versatility…
OP, is this microwave oven quiet? Got a new Panasonic and am vey disappointed as it's noisily like a tractor, and even just after 1 minute use the fan continues to hum as if it needs to cool off. Stupid design and lousy quality. If this one is quieter then I will get one as replacement.
Panasonic quality is plummeting.
Stupid design and lousy quality
The extra cooling might actually result in a longer-lasting oven.
or because the megatron and/or high power components are not big enough for longevity and require suplemental cooling so they don't fail. More like it, they probably save 30 cents off manufacturing that way.
Or they'll last longer because everything runs cooler.
@Jackson: I don't think any cheap microwave today will last very long.
It's a bit hard to find microwave prices back then, but in the UK in 1983, microwave ovens cost £200-£450.
That's about £602 - £1,356 in today's pounds according to measuringworth.com, which is AUD$1,246 - $2,808.
I wouldn't be surprised if a proper $1,000-$3,000 microwave oven today lasted 30 years. Maybe something like a Menumaster or Birko, used at home like these old Nationals and Sharps we know.
Cheap mass manufacturing isn't done with longevity in mind. Something's gotta give. :)
Incidentally, in that oven link above, the top-left oven uses a rotating deflector under the oven floor so it doesn't need a rotating turntable.
megatron
Microwaves, roll out!
@eug: yeah no doubt, the point that I was making is that it's not because we don't know how to make a good microwave, it's because companies don't want to.
I bought a Sanyo 6 years ago, a decent Jap brand back in the day, had to return it under warranty, 2 globes blew (I stopped changing them as I don't need to see my food), and a fuse has gone. Sri ll, the magnetron is fine and I am not sure they need cooling, not sure what it is this fan does, it's definitely a new thing for Panasonic.
the point that I was making is that it's not because we don't know how to make a good microwave, it's because companies don't want to.
I think us consumers have to shoulder a lot of the blame. Companies mass-produce microwave ovens because we consumers don't want to pay a lot of money for them. If you have a look at the example I gave above, back in 1983 consumers would have paid the equivalent of well over $1,000 for a microwave oven. They weren't mass-produced in China on the same scale as they are today. The prices have come down a lot since then, but so has the quality.
We can still buy $1,000+ microwave ovens today that will probably last 30 years, but we don't. Instead we expect $1,000 quality at $100. That's just not going to happen right now.
the magnetron is fine and I am not sure they need cooling, not sure what it is this fan does, it's definitely a new thing for Panasonic.
A magnetron is basically just a vacuum tube. The cathode needs to be heated up, so the efficiency is just average. That's why there are two ratings on an oven - the microwave output power and the input power. This one in particular consumes 1,500W to produce an output power of 850W - that's only about 57% efficient. The remaining power gets lost as heat. As with any device, running it cooler will make it last longer.
I remember people mentioning the fan in Panasonics on another forum a few years ago, so it's not toooo new.
@eug: yeah fair enough, however I think that while consumers do want cheaper prices (as evidenced by this sites popularity) They didn't ask for underspecced dodgy products. I think companies are to blame for the decrease in quality as often it's the economies of scale that bring costs down and not simply saving a cent here or there on materials (the latter which I blame for the dodginess)
The example I would use is one based in the motor industry, large cars can easily sell for double what a similar small car will, however the component costs are not double, they might be 20 or 30 percent more at most. Either way the companies try to cut costs on one end and drive up prices by differentiation on the high end, with little to do with cost to manufacture. I think this has become the general way to do business, it's not intentional that they make dodgy products, but it's intentional that they try to drive costs down to the point where one faulty component can shorten the life of an otherwise perfectly good product. My expected formula for this microwave would be if it costs 100 bucks for a dodgy on then it should be 150 for a very good version, not 800
They didn't ask for underspecced dodgy products.
But well-made products are available. Consumers just don't buy them because they don't want to pay the high prices. They expect high quality for a low price which isn't very realistic at the moment.
I think companies are to blame for the decrease in quality as often it's the economies of scale that bring costs down and not simply saving a cent here or there on materials (the latter which I blame for the dodginess)
Well, there's always room for more than one opinion. :)
@eug:
Consumers just don't buy them because they don't want to pay the high prices.
Just some consumers.
Often have this discussion with a friend. I will gladly pay 20 times as much if it built right. In my world it is all about quality and capability. My donation to the manufacturing industry. When a country stops building quality, society goes backwards.
Price is secondary.
Just some consumers.
I think it's safe to say that most consumers are price-conscious.
I will gladly pay 20 times as much if it built right.
What microwave oven do you have? How would you define "right" when it comes to microwave ovens?
Power is okay if you had the similar power rating previously.
Is there such thing as a microwave with a separate power source for the clock?
Alternatively, a microwave without the clock function? I heard that over a microwave's lifetime, more energy is used displaying the time than actually heating up food.
Also sick of having to change it every time there is a power outage.
You would need to go for one of the mechanical dial ones.
The other disadvantage of an LCD display is that cockroaches and other insects like to hide in there due to the warmth the LCD gives out. Used to service whitegoods and these things can get disgusting on the inside :)
only real ozbargainers that switched their microwave off
so you suggesting this one is the best? In a service man's ;) opinion?
LCDs should run cool like a watch, unless the backlight is constantly on. LEDs or oldschool green vacuum fluorescent displays on the other hand, would use more power and be warmer.
From the photos it looks like it's an LCD .. can anyone confirm?
Any previous user experience regarding this microwave oven?
Nice deal for canberrans. Does 850W microwave food as quick as 1100W would do?